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Maybe I have a hard time hanging out with INTPs because they make me feel illogical and stupid. I'm pretty convinced now that I'm an ENTP. It's like they won't jump on the bandwagon with my silliness; they just critique my ideas vs getting excited by them... this is what I suspect, anyway.

So I went for a walk, and once I was actively engaging with the world, (I believe) I had some insights. But first off, the reason I know my friend is an INFJ is because she told me that's what she is. I always pegged her more as an ISFJ, to be honest. Also, I know INFJs aren't exclusively into...

No... that's not what I mean... Turning Ni to Se? They extrovert with Fe. Se is their inferior function, which means it's their weak spot. That's like saying that INFPs live for expressing their Fi using objective logic. Isn't it more like converting their internal visions into human...

Somebody made a point at intpcentral about how the moon vs animal populations question should be a question of mass, not weight, what with gravitational pull. I think that's what threw me off on that one... I was totally thinking about gravity. But whatever. I'm stupid.

I think I was the stupidest of all of you. This seems like the sort of test NJs would do well on. EDIT: Who the HELL are all those people on intpcentral?

Hmm. My husband is an ESFP and we like a lot of the same music (indie rock), although I definitely like more 'weird' than he does, and our senses of humor are pretty different- but a lot of that can be attributed to I vs E, as well. Extroverted Perceivers are just more "BLAHHH!" But he's open to...

I find it interesting... because I have one INTP friend, and we totally 'get' each other, but I have a hard time hanging out with him for too long... it's like he reinforces my inadequacies or something, like a bad vision in the mirror. The people I feel more at ease with, that make me grow as...

Yeah, no frickin' way on the INFJ director mania. Film is a visual medium, INFJs are about abstract, symbolic, language. Not saying that they can't be directors, but I think they are far more likely to be writers if we're going to talk about them in the realm of creativity- someone like Nabokov...

The face that's directly below the center one in the photo is my default facial expression.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XF0_fRA3TY

Hey Soraya, Thanks for the compliment about me being the shit... I like flattery. :) How did you figure out you were an INTJ? I never test it but I relate to much of it and it makes me a little... confused. (And then you and your little story about you and the guy... hits a little too close...

Check on every single one of those for me, minus the chronically late one. Time? What's that? I've been reading Lenore Thomson's Personality Types. According to her, the differences between INTPs and INTJs are: INTPs view things holistically, contextually, and explain things via analogies...

Oh, I knew he was saying it tongue-in-cheek. It's a joke between the two of us, because I can turn every damn thing into a teaching moment.

We were playing catch phrase with others and the SO said to me, "I'm way better at this because I know how to talk to real people." I had to concede he was right. But I'm quite good at picking up on other's clues.

Hey Toad, I don't think it's necessarily possible for me to figure out my MBTI type because there are so many differences in theory among the theorists themselves. It's kind of like religion: do you follow the teachings of Keirsey or Meyers or Jung? So people should probably say, 'I'm a Thomson...

Re: ISTP, working on Ne No! I blame Isabel Myers! It's her fault, evil overlord vixen temptress she-beast!

Re: ISTP, working on Ne Just because you are an INTP doesn't mean you can't (and don't) enjoy Se activities. But it's not going to be the dominant thing for you. For example, I love to be outside, love to hike, love to swim in the ocean, etc, but I don't have the longevity that Se-users...

I vote for Lennon and Yellow Submarine because it's the first one that totally rocks. Love 'Hey Bulldog', Only a Northern Song, It's all too much, etc. This is a tough decision for me, however, because my theme song, I'm Only Sleeping, is on Revolver. One of the best songs ever ever ever...

I have mildly dumb ass Fe, in that I have difficulty expressing my emotion the way one is supposed to according to social dictates, but I think my internal emotions are pretty decent.

Literalists!

This is why I prefer the enneagram to MBTI (or a combination of the two). I am an enneagram five with a strong four wing: When I am unhealthy I can behave like both an unhealthy seven and two. When I am healthy I can behave like both a healthy eight and one. Not to be sounding like...

I know I am. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-_QeM4yXbM

Yes, we are seeing Holden in a very stressful point in his life. I'm not sure about the E, because it seems like before his trip back to New York he is always getting irritated by people and wishes they would shut up (I don't have the book in front of me but I've read it a few times, so I know...

No, I totally agree. I'm not saying this is an INTP thing across the board, but definitely prominent on forums of all types. So what's the best way to progress? Do people on here want to, or are they happy to be flaky and hesitant?

An aside: You might find this article interesting- http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/11/30/091130fa_fact_levy What you said seems so obvious to me, but such a concept frightens a lot of people. They don't like to consider the alternative to what they perceive to be absolute. Which...

The writer or director may not have put out the money, but they had the vision of how they wanted it to be. They knew it was going to cost lots o' bucks. Not to mention, ooh, technology's bad, but without it this movie never would have been made. The main issue: Is it going to change many...

I am seeing a prominent theme here... Why do we lack the confidence in our abilities and the drive to pursue our desires? Others seem perfectly capable of doing shit without all this premeditation and defeatist thinking. If we're supposedly so smart and talented, what's the deal?

Yeah, Polaris! Me too! Fellow insect rescuers UNITE! True, as well, about the rat :) Although it still isn't enough to convince me to go see it. I'm with sed on this...

I feel the exact same way and do the exact same thing. That's why I love texting. I can respond when I want and I have time to consider my response... if I do indeed respond. My husband uses speaker phone and it drives me batshit. Whenever he calls me and I hear an echo or a pause between...

Well?

I is 35, fyi.

I have to say my ESFP husband has never made such claims. Ni seems to scare him. I'd say he's more prone to initially believing conspiracy theories and getting all excited about them. But then he thinks about it some more and the practical side of him realizes it's pretty stupid so he drops it.

All the above, but I like to think I'm improving. Lack of follow through, though, has to be my biggest weakness.

I have good taste in my tongue. :p

nah, we can do the facebook thing. I guess I'm returning... but in an altered way. Maybe if I'm here you won't feel like you don't fit in :)

I think you're pretty much right. Even the things that are personal I separate from myself, finding some detached way to analyse it or describe it. When it's too much a part of me, I find it confusing. It's only when I can see it from a distance that it makes sense to me. But that's kind of...

"You know how to use words."

Oh my God.

I'm trying to think of some but I can't at the moment. Maybe that's why I tend to relate more to male characters? My guess would be to look at the friend who makes dry, perceptive comments about what the female protagonist is going through. In other words, supporting roles, not main.

Hmmm, I thought I did... Again, I get side-tracked by things that aren't all that important to my eventual goals. What typically side-tracks me is new ideas/theories that grab my attention and seem to immediately take precedence over what really matters to me. I believe this is due to my Ti...

Thanks for the luck. You, too! My functions go Ti Ne Fi (in cognitive function tests), so I'm pretty close to you on this. But what I'm saying is that the sense of self that I have isn't as strong as it would be if Fi were one of my top two, and that keeps me from adhering to what I value with...

Yeah, do. I guess they have it on facebook.

Have you played Bananagrams? That game was made for wordy introverts. You play alongside others or you can play by yourself, it really doesn't matter.

So I was taking the cognitive processes tests earlier and it got me thinking of Fi (and my aptitude at it) in a way I never had before. Call it an epiphany if you like. I've long debated whether I was an INFP or an INTP, amongst other types. I always considered both my Fi and Ti to be strong...

So much of the math I have encountered in life has been the extraverted thinking sort of math, which is why I would imagine I have been abysmal at it. But I love trying to figure out puzzles and I love science.

Assessment 1: INTP Assessment 2: ESFJ Assessment 3: INTP

These conversations comprise about 80% of my interactions with others. In other words, 80% of my conversations with others are made up. :eek: I often get confused and, once we get together, can't remember whether we actually talked about something or I imagined us talking about something...

I feel really dumb when I talk to IXTJs and EXTJs, especially the NT versions. If I am indeed an INTP (which I am leaning toward more and more), it would be because I relate to Lenore Thomson's explanation of introverted thinking, which she likes to point out is subjective, unlike Te, which is...

Both, unless I'm listening to music without words or I'm reading poetry. It's the combination that makes it. But what do you mean by the value of lyrics? Often it's the sound the words make for me vs the meaning- I guess I often hear the words as yet another instrument... but probably the most...

Differences in gender aren't something you can refer to as inferior or superior overall. You just can't. I mean, what do you mean by that? Maybe if you narrow it down to inferior or superior at such and such a thing, sure, but overall? Er, nope. For example, I am far superior to men at growing...