What animal type is the INTP?

[Perseus]

What animal type is the INTP?

[Aphasia]

Not bull. Maybe aye-ayes (look them up in wikipedia).

...when I think about it, aye-ayes are somewhat suitable. I'm voting 'other', mostly because I like them.

[murkrow]

I still think it's cheetah, lack of flight kind of sucks though, eagle might fit well.

[deserthighway]

I think the bull is too down to earth, and the eagle/hawk are too assertive. A Phoenix is entirely fictional so it's behavioral traits are entirely speculative. I voted owl because they traditionally symbolize wisdom. They also symbolize death and destruction but hey that's kind of cool too.

[Perseus]

Don't forget that this personality often enter the legal profession and become barristers etc, or Legal Eagles.

[Decaf]

The description of aye-aye's in wikipedia sounds an awful lot like INTPs, but I don't care for the "Harbinger of Death" mythos and general scariness about them.

[Dissident]

Holy shit thats ugly as hell !

Here is a decent picture of the poor animal:



Still ugly tho

[Perseus]

Great Indian Chief "Teapot"

[Eagle]

INTP's typically can foresee problems, peoples actions, and consequences in the future. Eagles have the exceptional eyesight.

When I created my handle, I used the first word that came to mind.

[Ermine]

I think they're best represented as a small cat, maybe a housecat. Here's a bunch of INTP-esque cat characteristics.

content to take "catnaps" most of the day
sometimes affectionate with those they are closest to
friendly one minute, standoffish the next
independent
intelligent

and those aye-aye pictures are oddly endearing.

[Jordan~]

Think about it this way: If there was to be a children's movie with talking animals, and one of the characters was an INTP, what would that character be? An owl!

Cat is pretty good, but I think they're more INTJ. Though cats are always watching and observing, they also always appear to be scheming. The owl just reacts immediately to a slight movement, the cat stalks and traps.

[Perseus]

Originally Posted by Fernando_the_weasel

I think they're best represented as a small cat, maybe a housecat. Here's a bunch of INTP-esque cat characteristics.

content to take "catnaps" most of the day
sometimes affectionate with those they are closest to
friendly one minute, standoffish the next
independent
intelligent

and those aye-aye pictures are oddly endearing.

I take mild offence at the Cat or Lion portrayal. I consider this a Fraudian (Freud + Guardian SJ) misrepresentation. The Cat I have allocated as ISFP.
The Weasel would be a variant of ENFP.

They are not Judgers though, Cats, Lions, Genets, Weasels etc.

Andy
http://soredragon.blogspot.com/2008/...-revision.html

[Perseus]

1. Mythology. A bird in Egyptian mythology that lived in the desert for 500 years and then consumed itself by fire, later to rise renewed from its ashes.

This is a good call for me as I vie between the Dragon INFP and the Eagle INTP. Hawl and Owl are down as INTJ.

Andy
http://soredragon.blogspot.com/2008/...-revision.html

[Aphasia]

Originally Posted by Decaf

The description of aye-aye's in wikipedia sounds an awful lot like INTPs, but I don't care for the "Harbinger of Death" mythos and general scariness about them.

People don't necessarily like others who think and act differently, especially when they think and act different to them. I don't doubt that if given a choice, many people would want to get rid of annoying INTP's.

@Dissident: But it's so cute! (Being soppy )

[loveofreason]

Originally Posted by Dissident

Holy shit thats ugly as hell !

Here is a decent picture of the poor animal:



Still ugly tho

That's me!

[KookooKachu]

I would consider a wolf into this. INTP's aren't completely heartless. Wolves group together as a family. Small groups. They are only affectionate with their small family and only the members of the family know about them. (Ignoreing the scenting thing) INTP's are observant right? Well a wolf is too. Patient animals on hunting their prey. They are smart and they are quiet secluded animals. Sure they are seen as mean but seriously, they are only wild.
Oh and wolves can be pretty laid back animals whenever they aren't trying to survive.

[Ogion]

Hm, but wolves are very social and hierarchical-oriented, right? They live in packs and have strict hierarchies. I wouldn't call that something i'd like to live like...

Ogion

[Perseus]

Originally Posted by KookooKachu

I would consider a wolf into this. Entps aren't completely heartless. Wolves group together as a family. Small groups. They are only affectionate with their small family and only the members of the family know about them. (Ignoring the scenting thing) Entps are observant right? Well a wolf is too. Patient animals on hunting their prey. They are smart and they are quiet secluded animals. Sure they are seen as mean but seriously, they are only wild.
Oh and wolves can be pretty laid back animals whenever they aren't trying to survive.

I put Wolves down as ENFJ, the Teacher.

I do not know if I care if I right or wrong and I have changed by opinions from the original.

Wolves are (first thoughts).

Pack animals with a top dog and an appreciation for hierarchy.
Can be tamed if caught by incentives, including praise.
Lots of stamina.

Less characteristic

Playful
Aggressive

Now, I do not have any of these characteristics.
I find hierarchies almost impossible, well more than almost, as rank position does not really register for me.
Not really affected by praise, although nice, and preferable to criticism.
Hardly any stamina, although I can do resolute.

Playfulness is not a strong suit, and Artisan SP tendency as is Aggressiveness.

[Perseus]

Extra justification or not for a Wolf as ENFJ. There may be justification of allocating Wolf to ENTJ and putting Beaver down as ENFJ ???

SJ are the Guardians, A Tamed Wolf or Dog ISTJ is one of these.

NT is a Rational like the INTP Eagles

NF is an Idealist. I am not so sure that Wolves are after soulmates, more like a Helpmate, so Wolf could be wrongly allocated ???

ENFJ typical jobs are:

entertainer
recruiter
artist
newscaster
writer/journalist
recreation director
librarian
facilitator
politician
psychologist
housing director
career counselor
sales trainer
travel agent
program designer
corporate/team trainer
child welfare worker


As an INFP/INTP I have trouble with Wolves as their Judgement role is too quick and they can seem a bit heavy and rigid. Too much, if I know them well enough.

A ENFJ/ENTJ I ahve aloocated as Beaver and these hard working people come across as damn Blockheads rushing around without thinking.

[Perseus]

Last thoughts

Henry Haller came from Academia:

Der Steppenwolf is the tenth novel by Hermann Hesse, combining autobiographical and fantastic elements. Released in 1927 and named after the lonesome wolf of the steppes, or coyote, the book in large part reflects a profound crisis in Hesse's spiritual world in the 1920s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steppenwolf_%28novel%29

The book is presented as a manuscript by its protagonist, a middle-aged man named Harry Haller (who has the same initials as Hesse himself, a recurring device in his books), who leaves it to a chance acquaintance, the nephew of his landlady. The acquaintance adds a short preface of his own and then has the manuscript published. The title of this "real" book-in-the-book is Harry Haller's Records (For Madmen Only).
As it begins, the hero is beset with reflections on his being ill-suited for the world of "everybody", the regular people. In his aimless wanderings about the city he encounters a person carrying an advertisement for a "magic theater", who gives him a small book, Treatise on the Steppenwolf. This treatise is cited in full in the novel's text (another level of self-reference) as Harry reads it. The pamphlet addresses Harry by name and seems to describe him perfectly, as a man who believes himself to be of two natures: one "high", spiritual and "human"; while the other is "low", animal-like, a "wolf of the Steppes". This man is entangled in an irresolvable struggle, never content with either nature because he cannot see beyond this self made construct. The pamphlet gives an explanation of the multifaceted and indefinable nature of every man's soul, which Harry is either unable or unwilling to recognize.
The next day Harry meets a former academic friend who invites Harry to his home. While there Harry both becomes disgusted by the nationalistic mentality of his friend, and offends the man by criticizing his wife's picture of Goethe (a figure Harry later dreams about), thus cementing his belief that he is not fit for the society of other men. Trying to postpone returning home where he plans to commit suicide, Harry chances upon a young woman in a dance hall, Hermine, who recognizes his desperate condition very quickly.

[Saturnine]

Originally Posted by Decaf

The description of aye-aye's in wikipedia sounds an awful lot like INTPs, but I don't care for the "Harbinger of Death" mythos and general scariness about them.

I think it's adorable! lol and I want one...

[Decaf]

I think I figured it out... INTPs are like wombats. We aren't joiners, so we end up spending the bulk of our time by ourselves. We are highly intelligent, but often overlooked in preference to the stupid, but charming koala. If we spend too much time with people, we can get grumpy and accidentally hurt people we like. If placed in an enclosure, we will escape.

[grrreg]

i rather be a gibbon than an aye-aye....but that's just me, on the other hand, when you give the finger to someone, there is no mistaking it !

[Malcolm Grimstar]

turtle, man. like INTPs they are kind of slow when out of their element, but excellent at that to which they are naturally suited. the ability of the turtle to retract into it's shell mirrors the INTP ability to retreat into their own thoughts. they are both also few in number.

[Reverse Transcriptase]

oh how I miss Perseus.... :(

welcome Malcolm! would you like to be our new Perseus? the job requirements are:

1. Be absolutely crazy
2. Come up with a metaphorical (possibly animal-based) naming system for all the types.
3. Use your terms with disregard to the actual four-letter codes. When people whine about not understanding what type the "Wolf" is, wait 48 hours and then begrudingly explain that they're ESTJ.
4. more crazy!

[Dormouse]

Hey, I think I might be able to fill that job description.
Tell me about the perks!

Edit: Not that gratuitous insanity is no reward in and of itself.

[Fedayeen]

Why are all but one of the choices (2 if you count other) all birds?

[Words]

I don't like other animals much so its humans...their shapes are too "out of form".cept cats. i like cats. cats it is. or birds..wtver.

[flow]

Originally Posted by Dormouse

Hey, I think I might be able to fill that job description.
Tell me about the perks!

Edit: Not that gratuitous insanity is no reward in and of itself.

RESPECT. A little annoyance, but mostly love. We need more characters around here!

[Wish]

Hmm, I'm not sure on what specific animal would have the most INTP-like characteristics, but I've always known that if I could be reborn as an animal other than a human it would be an eagle. To be almost completely independent, effortlessly soaring above and observing, doing as I pleased with no fear of any natural predators (except humans I guess) is bliss as I see it.

[Words]

Originally Posted by Wishing Well

Hmm, I'm not sure on what specific animal would have the most INTP-like characteristics, but I've always known that if I could be reborn as an animal other than a human it would be an eagle. To be almost completely independent, effortlessly soaring above and observing, doing as I pleased with no fear of any natural predators (except humans I guess) is bliss as I see it.

i've always wanted to fly, no engines or any other contraptions. just a state of levitation unaffected by uneven isolation...but its nothing fancy... just seems good for relaxing. so...i'm going for a flying lion...what do they call those?

[Dormouse]

Originally Posted by flow

RESPECT. A little annoyance, but mostly love. We need more characters around here!

Hmm, I may seriously consider taking up the position of resident loony.
(Or, one of many? I'm not sure how many here callify as nutters.)

But, anyways, I must say it sounds fun. And my brand of insanity happens to cater to made up words and code, so I'll surely consider it.

[Darby]

perhaps INTP's are not like other animals, that is what makes us so rare and spectacular. Even on this forum it appears the only thing a majority have in common is crazy(or close) and an embrace of it. Also a love of ideas, but I may be wrong. Other than that, we seem to each be our own person, with few similar traits.

Even aye-ayes look like a failed bat/rat/climby-thing hybrid that got tossed out and managed to survive

[Cobra]

We could take this whole thread to a new level and just straight up all pretend to be animals from now on. Breaking character = ban.

[Darby]

meow! *gimme food and water, im bored, i wanna go outside, im tired, goodnight*

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*thousands of retroviruses start to coalesce near cobra. He tries to slither away, but the retroviruses are caught in the breeze and fall all over his scales*

*the infection begins*

[Anthile]

The definitive guide to MBTI totems:


ESTJ: Human



ISTJ: Skunk



ESFJ: Hippo



ISFJ: Bear



ESTP: Toad



ISTP: Wolf



ESFP: Squirrel



ISFP: Swan



ENFJ: Lion



INFJ: Raven



ENFP: Dolphin



INFP: Giraffe



ENTJ: Tiger



INTJ: Octopus



ENTP: Monkey



INTP: Bat

[Words]

Originally Posted by Anthile

The definitive guide to MBTI totems:


ESTJ: Human

ISTJ: Skunk

ESFJ: Hippo

ISFJ: Bear

ESTP: Toad

ISTP: Wolf

ESFP: Squirrel

ISFP: Swan

ENFJ: Lion

INFJ: Raven

ENFP: Dolphin

INFP: Giraffe

ENTJ: Tiger

INTJ: Octopus

ENTP: Monkey

INTP: Bat

no no no...

[Perseus]

Originally Posted by Malcolm Grimstar

turtle, man. like INTPs they are kind of slow when out of their element, but excellent at that to which they are naturally suited. the ability of the turtle to retract into it's shell mirrors the INTP ability to retreat into their own thoughts. they are both also few in number.

Good call. The research has progressed since the original post 18 months ago and now the Turtle has been allocated XNTP.

[Darby]

Originally Posted by Anthile

The definitive guide to MBTI totems:


ESTJ: Human


ISTJ: Skunk


ESFJ: Hippo


ISFJ: Bear


ESTP: Toad


ISTP: Wolf


ESFP: Squirrel


ISFP: Swan


ENFJ: Lion


INFJ: Raven


ENFP: Dolphin


INFP: Giraffe


ENTJ: Tiger


INTJ: Octopus



ENTP: Monkey


INTP: Bat

When I read that I read the INT_ and saw the octopus and said "cool, I wanna be an octopus" and then I saw the J and was like "darn, well we're going to be way cooler", guess not:/

Also, I want to be a Liger, it is a very magical creature, not like bats

[LAM]

I liked the idea of the wombat Wombats are awesome but bad-tempered. Going too close to a wombat (invade its personal space) would get it very defensive. They only like their carers and a small number of other wombats. Well actually I only wanted to say they are completely awesome, but turtle is probably an INTP.

[Words]

Originally Posted by Darby

When I read that I read the INT_ and saw the octopus and said "cool, I wanna be an octopus" and then I saw the J and was like "darn, well we're going to be way cooler", guess not:/

Also, I want to be a Liger, it is a very magical creature, not like bats

a flying liger..

[Dormouse]

Nah, mix between a lion and tiger.

And I find a bat eerily accurate, it's always been one of my favourite animals. Plus, we get echolocation and flight.

[Words]

Originally Posted by Dormouse

Nah, mix between a lion and tiger.

And I find a bat eerily accurate, it's always been one of my favourite animals. Plus, we get echolocation and flight.

a flying turtle then. a bat's blind personality is good. but its too socially active. its too scheduled(nightflyers). and most of all, too aggressively scary.

[Dormouse]

Aggressively scary? Really? Really?

They're adorable... True about the social part, though. But night-flyers is applicable to most of us.
And I still think echolocation is a good metaphor for intuition.

[Words]

Originally Posted by Dormouse

Aggressively scary? Really? Really?They're adorable...

i wouldn't be smiling if i were you.

But night-flyers is applicable to most of us.

but not purely night. they have a "J" feel to that.

And I still think echolocation is a good metaphor for intuition.

a good amnimal to ENFJ

[Anthile]

After doing some in-depth research it seems that bats really are extremely social animals... which disqualifies them from being a INTP totem animal. Instead the turtle seems like a good idea.

[Words]

is that mashed potatoes?

[The Frood]

Turtles work i suppose, but i think turtles are slow and methodical, which doesn't quite fit... Turtles seem to fit ISTJ's better than INTP's.

IMO owls match better than turtles.

Ravens seem to work better, they are extremely intelligent, very adaptable, not especially social, have a slightly negative connotation, and are creators.



deus pascit corvos
(I also don't think it is a coincidence that there are 4 Raven smileys)

A couple more candidates:

Snow leopards
Independent, Rare, Intelligent, predatory, quiet, contained, (and they are devastatingly beautiful)

Spoiler:

aside from Lions, i think Cats in general seem to fit rather well.


Arctic Foxes (or other foxes)
Independent, adaptable, wary, insulated, sly. However whether or not we want to call INTP's "sly" is debatable, because of our general abhorrence of lies, but still, i think it pertains.

Spoiler:

(I seem to be having a thing for snow today lol)

[Words]

Originally Posted by The Frood

Turtles work i suppose, but i think turtles are slow and methodical, which doesn't quite fit... Turtles seem to fit ISTJ's better than INTP's.

IMO owls match better than turtles.

Ravens seem to work better, they are extremely intelligent, very adaptable, not especially social, have a slightly negative connotation, and are creators.



deus pascit corvos
(I also don't think it is a coincidence that there are 4 Raven smileys)

A couple more candidates:

Snow leopards
Independent, Rare, Intelligent, predatory, quiet, contained, (and they are devastatingly beautiful)

Spoiler:

aside from Lions, i think Cats in general seem to fit rather well.


Arctic Foxes (or other foxes)
Independent, adaptable, wary, insulated, sly. However whether or not we want to call INTP's "sly" is debatable, because of our general abhorrence of lies, but still, i think it pertains.

Spoiler:

(I seem to be having a thing for snow today lol)

i agree with those lone wolves/cats. flying liger.