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Acting a personality

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First, it's my first thread, so i'm not quite sure of how i should handle it. But here are my thoughts.

Every once in a while, i tend to go through a time where i start to feel really unproductive, tired and meaningless. I'm not sure if it happens to everyone, or it's just me. I kind of feel like my ways aren't really representative of my own self (as in i'm playing my actions as an actor plays a character) during the weeks that preceded that event.

So, i just kind of go into a thinking mode, reviewing the past to see where i felt more comfortable with the way i acted. In other words, when I was myself indeed. I specifically look at those times where i wasn't really minding how i acted to others.

And that's when typology seems to become a nuisance. In order to avoid any bias to find those situations, i tend to try to let go any of previous typology knowledge. Yet, every time i review a situation, it boils down to "I was using Ti on that time, i was using Fi that time, I was using Te that time, etc"

In the end, i feel less and less validated, as everytime i try to find myself, i tend to wishful think by thinking about one specific time or function. Any new situation will be likely to be perceived as acting. Although i'm not really ok with doing tests through that time, the results just reflect that phenomena.

And even though i'm aware that a type may display any function at a given time, i still am not sure of what is "me" and what isn't. Those, who are, as a matter of fact, my preferred functions.

That seems more like a rant, but any thoughts are really welcome.
 

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Do some more Se!

Go out, party, get drunk, go to clubs, go ride a dune buggy in the desert, start a jogging routine, become a boxer, join a gym, join a basketball team, take a hip hop dance class etc.

I've gotta say after going to a club last night with so many scantily-clad women, I finally feel like a normal human being (whatever that means :D). Of course I know it will subside, but the more Se you have in your life the more invigorating using your dominant function will feel.
 

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Do some more Se!

Go out, party, get drunk, go to clubs, go ride a dune buggy in the desert, start a jogging routine, become a boxer, join a gym, join a basketball team, take a hip hop dance class etc.

I've gotta say after going to a club last night with so many scantily-clad women, I finally feel like a normal human being (whatever that means :D). Of course I know it will subside, but the more Se you have in your life the more invigorating using your dominant function will feel.
using Se might be solving this problem from times to times it doesn't manage to solve them all the time. In the end you find yourself back in your room and trying to figure out when were you acting and when you were yourself.

All I've got to say is that I find myself in the exact same spot, but I read some topics here and I acknowledged the fact that the MBTI is not as accurate as we thought, and typing doesn't really work with over complicated personalities.

It's hard to find a solution to be yourself, because perhaps acting is being yourself, you just gotta accept that fact. The sooner, the better. Typing yourself in every situation wont give you much details, but only your preference at that moment and perhaps giving you a greater idea to realize what exactly did you want to gain by being someone else.

But then again your are typing your former self which might be complicated because you're being objective and you don't really have a very good subjective memory to that instant and thus not gaining enough information to base what you were preferring at that same exact moment.

All that's written above might be bullshit - I just thought outloud what I think of this situation, and you might find some stuff contradicting.
 

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Your looking way too much into typology , it's more a guide than anything concrete.
 

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Your looking way too much into typology , it's more a guide than anything concrete.

I can't say i disagree. I'm actually going too much over that information, where it seems to have become less of guide and more of a ruleset. And the fact that i've read too much about it doesn't help either.

But not being sure of one's personality is kind of unsettling. And that's why i might feel bad from time to time.

Do some more Se!
Also, i cannot disagree. I feel like i'm in an ivory tower all the time. Funny you mentioned that, because the last occurrence started by going to a party downtown. Got awfully drunk, and went home with no money, at late night. I can't really tell why i'm still alive, as i recall punching a bus, running, cursing people and believing i'm a ninja.:phear:

That just made me feel vulnerable.
 

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using Se might be solving this problem from times to times it doesn't manage to solve them all the time. In the end you find yourself back in your room and trying to figure out when were you acting and when you were yourself.
But that's the thing, man. You are always yourself, no matter what you do, so it's up to you to change who you are. You can never not be yourself, can you?


Also, i cannot disagree. I feel like i'm in an ivory tower all the time. Funny you mentioned that, because the last occurrence started by going to a party downtown. Got awfully drunk, and went home with no money, at late night. I can't really tell why i'm still alive, as i recall punching a bus, running, cursing people and believing i'm a ninja.:phear:

That just made me feel vulnerable.
Well you don't have to get drunk, just do something that uses up kinetic energy.
 

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But that's the thing, man. You are always yourself, no matter what you do, so it's up to you to change who you are. You can never not be yourself, can you?
Well, obviously you are yourself always.
But I think we're talking about the deeper problem that yourself is actually trying to act like someone else.
In the end I do realize that myself is the one that tries to act like someone else, but it doesn't really help solve the issue for typing the fact that sometimes we have the urge to act like someone else's personality, something is definitely missing there.
And the more I look at it, the more MBTI fails to present a real solution to type the "lizards" in us. Sure we can capture the colors of the lizardy us in that situation but we cant really know anything about our true colors.
Or maybe we don't have true colors?
I guess that is what is frustrating about that.
Sure, we know our shapes, but we need a little bit more depth than that, if you know what I mean.
 

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I took a time to think about what's been said in this thread, and came to the following conclusion.

In my case, the uncertainty always came along with a emotional down time. It was like everytime i felt like i fell short with myself, i ended believing that i wasn't myself during that time.

The truth is that i've always been myself, but hadn't been accepting my flaws as i commited them. And as someone mentioned, i was too much into typology, so to make up for my flaws, i believed that my type was wrong instead of understanding that i'm liable to faults.

I believe that might exist some cases out there where it's indeed hard to truly know what type you are. There are numerous threads out there mentioning INFJs looking like INTJs/INTPs. So it is a possibility.

At least, that experience was good enough to make me see that i'm not perfect and that you can't really live by a theory only. Also, i'd like to thank those who posted in here.
 

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Your looking way too much into typology , it's more a guide than anything concrete.
FFS, are you an INTJ? If you dont like typology why are you here?
 

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Well, obviously you are yourself always.
But I think we're talking about the deeper problem that yourself is actually trying to act like someone else.
In the end I do realize that myself is the one that tries to act like someone else, but it doesn't really help solve the issue for typing the fact that sometimes we have the urge to act like someone else's personality, something is definitely missing there.
I'm not sure if I'm clear about this. Do you actually mean copying another's behavior? Or do you mean trying to change/improve yourself through inauthentic means?
 

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I'm not sure if I'm clear about this. Do you actually mean copying another's behavior? Or do you mean trying to change/improve yourself through inauthentic means?
It's practically both and neither.
A little bit of both combined together.
(if you've seen fringe :D)

what I mean is that if X tries to be more like Y and wants it badly in an unconscionably level, there will be a failure in the typology because it is unable to spot that, especially if X tries to be sometimes like Y, and at other times like Z and A. Something is missing in the system to actually find the X rather than the Y,Z and A.
 

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Ah, ok. Yea that is the problem with observational typing, seeing only what's on the outside. But still, the process they go through to achieve that similarity will correlate with that of their type.

Some types are way too self-conscious to subtly imitate another without noticing themselves at some point.
 
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