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what if the transgender epidemic is just a bunch of confused people thinking they want to be a different sex when they just want to be treated the way the opposite sex is? people should use the findings of game theory in everyday life. im bored and my eyes are tired but im not ugh. by the time we are capable of eye transplants from other species will it even be needed or will we have perfected genetic manipulation enough to just modify our eyes? why would humans evolve without tails they are so useful for expression and balance?
I think it's a product of genders commodifying personality traits: you can have qualities of the opposite gender without getting a sex change. You can dress up in a dress if you want, put on make up and whatever have you, but because people like to make everything about sex (subsequently gender), then to seek validation they feel they must be the other gender. I don't think gender should matter, ultimately you should use the sexual organs you're given as it is the most natural, but people like to categorize and create bias on the way people act: if we truly accepted everyone can exhibit any type of behaviour I don't imagine people would be obsessed with self-validation to the extend they need to change their physiology.

Having said that I don't imagine people would change their biased assumptions, so the transgender movement is a valid response to societal bias, but it should not be the case. It shouldn't be radical but it is.
I think that people are also trying to become the object they desire. I would find myself way more attractive if i were a curvy girl rather than a dude. idk something to consider. I may have a weird view though because i dont really feel attached to my appearance
 

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sleep is a waste of time. those are 8 hours (average) per day you will never get back. it's like watching the Lego movie.

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Yeah, but it's the only place I get to **** Rachel Weisz :applause:
What are the guidelines on swearing, here? No one minds a rich vocabulary, right?
A long time ago I was learning to lucid dream and I told me friend and he asked," so have you tried sex yet"? Me being intp I said ," no but i flew and asked my subconcious what I fear most and it was weird". Then he said ," thats cool but try sex".
classic NT vs SF
I tried sex and it was cool but flying was way better.
whats up with cross walks, are they some sort of profiling tool to weed out the ones who are unworthy of life? I hope so
I’ve had a lucid dream once in my life. First I flew then landed and had sex, then woke up with jizzed up underpants. The best part though, was before both the flying and jizzing, where I was walking around in an old empty city. It was the most serene and beautiful atmosphere I’ve ever seen.

Also, the flying was a bit of a disappointment because when I reached a certain altitude the visuals became all blurry and poorly defined. I figured it was because I didn’t have enough images in my brain of what such an experience should look like. That’s when I decided to land and let my dream penis have its dreams fulfilled too.
try asking your subconscious what you fear most its pretty cool. mine showed me turning into a monster and it was pretty scary
 

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but because people like to make everything about sex (subsequently gender), then to seek validation they feel they must be the other gender.
I have been thinking the same. If you fall in love with your own gender, you might turn jealous of the opposite gender, which more easily attracts the objects of your infatuation. However, it seems almost inevitable that nature produces some individuals who have the mind of one gender, and the body of the other. Some children show strong preferences for the behaviour of the opposite gender, long before mating seems a likely incentive.

I grew up with a girl who always wanted to be a boy. If we wanted her to do something, all we had to tell her was that it would be the boyish thing to do. She turned into a quite beautiful woman, who has never dated anything but guys. Perhaps she is a gay guy in a woman's body. That would certainly be useful! Maybe transgenderism is an adaption to let the gays attract a larger mating pool :p sometimes it goes wrong: you're born in a body that's wrong, but you are attracted to its opposite gender. I really have to question the strategical faculties of a male mind in a woman's body, which is attracted to men, yet decides to get the body of a man. I hope your new pouch is doing something for you, cause it sure ain't for 90% of the guys you wanna date.

I think that people are also trying to become the object they desire. I would find myself way more attractive if i were a curvy girl rather than a dude. idk something to consider. I may have a weird view though because i don't really feel attached to my appearance
So you're the one stirring the loins of pubescent boys, running around MMORPGs in a voluptuous avatar. If only they knew your eyes are as transfixed by your elfess' shapely backend as theirs are, I'm sure we'd all be hearing hearts break.

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Nah, I'm in Oslo, same as you :) I just liked imagining you among the bible thumpers of Sørlandet, being your cupid match's own, personal Jesus xD
 

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Personality and sexuality are two factors that come together in gender. There have been guys I loved romantically and Girls I loved romantically. But they have just been crushes, not official relations. I sometimes imagine what I look like as certain females. that is from the inside I imagine if the inside and outside were both female. Like looking into a subjective mirror eyes closed. Like I looked pretty felt pretty and acted feminine. It lasts less than 10 seconds and is infrequent but I feel happy when it does.

Sexuality makes me think of androgeny. I know if I was physically different I'd have no problem being attracted to the opposite sex. But it is a weird in-between. The crushes I've had give me a sense I cannot be attracted to all men even as a female. I know that in the future I can switch gender at will. Which I think will happen in VR quite often for people. I really would not have a preference accept male out of VR, female inside VR.

I would not say I am full-on bi with the haircut and all but a decent bit around there.
 

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I think that people are also trying to become the object they desire. I would find myself way more attractive if i were a curvy girl rather than a dude. idk something to consider. I may have a weird view though because i dont really feel attached to my appearance
That works too, I honestly think some dudes are very attractive without make up and if they put in effort, they too could become the object of desire.
 

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but because people like to make everything about sex (subsequently gender), then to seek validation they feel they must be the other gender.
I have been thinking the same. If you fall in love with your own gender, you might turn jealous of the opposite gender, which more easily attracts the objects of your infatuation. However, it seems almost inevitable that nature produces some individuals who have the mind of one gender, and the body of the other. Some children show strong preferences for the behaviour of the opposite gender, long before mating seems a likely incentive.
I think the concept of gender differences, beside differences in sex like sexual dimorphism, are a product of us categorising arbitrary behaviours to gender, like the sun is male and the moon is female. I don't think it'll permeate through society if I was to say this but if we didn't socialise genders I very much doubt people would want to change their sexual organs just because.
 

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Personality and sexuality are two factors that come together in gender. There have been guys I loved romantically and Girls I loved romantically. But they have just been crushes, not official relations. I sometimes imagine what I look like as certain females. that is from the inside I imagine if the inside and outside were both female. Like looking into a subjective mirror eyes closed. Like I looked pretty felt pretty and acted feminine. It lasts less than 10 seconds and is infrequent but I feel happy when it does.


I would not say I am full-on bi with the haircut and all but a decent bit around there.
I think both genders, in terms of behaviours that are socialised into genders there is a different romantic element for male to male, male to female. I find females are more emotionally aware and I usually like talking to them more not simply for romantic interest but just to express, or listen to an emotional aspect on things.
 

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I think that people are also trying to become the object they desire. I would find myself way more attractive if i were a curvy girl rather than a dude. idk something to consider. I may have a weird view though because i dont really feel attached to my appearance
That works too, I honestly think some dudes are very attractive without make up and if they put in effort, they too could become the object of desire.
very few guys are feminine enough to trick anyone into thinking they are female including themselves. It doesnt mean nobody is just most arent, just read my sig :D
 

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A long time ago I was learning to lucid dream
Lucid dreaming noob here.

I'm still only barely grasping reality testing to enhance metacognition by pushing my fingers of one hand on the palm of the opposite hand.

I've done wake back to bed (WBTB) and have gone back into dreams I had left and wanted to re-enter without realizing it was technically lucid dreaming.

I want to remember more details of my dreams but forget them upon waking. Sometimes, I'll be able to remember one thing, like the fact that there were other people in the dream, but I won't remember who they all were specifically. Any tips for this?

Do you just tell yourself what you want to dream about throughout the day? Or, how do you affect the outcome of what you end up dreaming about?
 

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Do you just tell yourself what you want to dream about throughout the day? Or, how do you affect the outcome of what you end up dreaming about?
If I were to be pedantic in the context of your sleep, the themes and content may be abstract but they're bound by physical laws that we experience everyday. The sky is up, rocks are below. I've been able to dreamscape if I start flying up into the sky and I think this is logical because I don't see much in the sky, it is just clouds the sun and if I go far enough there is the astral plane. When you're in the sky there is relatively little detail: you don't see buildings because they're grounded, or pretty much the majority of your lifestyle (assuming you aren't an aviation fanatic), from there you can become aware that there is something incorrect about your environment, the lack of stimulus makes you contemplative rather than an endless loop of processing information and detail.

Once you reach an area with little detail, your consciousness projects images onto the environment, you simply project your wishes in material form: A lover perhaps, a circle of friends, an experience you dream of. Personally I find the trick of staying in a lucid dream is constantly generate information through conscious thought, if you stare at a figment of your imagination too long the detail starts to disappear, your main senses transfer from the dream realm to the physical realm and suddenly you're awake.

I think lucid dream is hard to maintain, the stages are:
-Normal Dream (REM cycle)
-Lucid Dream (interuption in the REM cycle, transitioning from dreaming to awakening)
- End of dream (Awakening)
 

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In terms of thinking daily about what you wish to dream you consolidate a lot of your memories in your dreams, mainly subconsious experiences so if you were to spend the whole day doing a small range of tasks such as a video game in a similar environment for a long period of time your chances of that being consolidated is high.
 

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Personally I find the trick of staying in a lucid dream is constantly generate information through conscious thought, if you stare at a figment of your imagination too long the detail starts to disappear, your main senses transfer from the dream realm to the physical realm and suddenly you're awake.
you consolidate a lot of your memories in your dreams, mainly subconsious experiences so if you were to spend the whole day doing a small range of tasks such as a video game in a similar environment for a long period of time your chances of that being consolidated is high.
So, essentially, first be immersed in a single environment or experience for a long period of time, for example, a full day of a chosen video game, which is ideally close enough to the desired environment of the lucid dream.

Then, project desired dream thoughts onto said environment when little to no detail is present.

Sounds doable. I don't play video games though. Any suggestions?

Would it be sufficient to do something like take a walk for a few hours as to condition my subconscious experiences to remember a city environment, or does that introduce too much variance if I'm walking to different places?
 

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Personally I find the trick of staying in a lucid dream is constantly generate information through conscious thought, if you stare at a figment of your imagination too long the detail starts to disappear, your main senses transfer from the dream realm to the physical realm and suddenly you're awake.
you consolidate a lot of your memories in your dreams, mainly subconsious experiences so if you were to spend the whole day doing a small range of tasks such as a video game in a similar environment for a long period of time your chances of that being consolidated is high.
So, essentially, first be immersed in a single environment or experience for a long period of time, for example, a full day of a chosen video game, which is ideally close enough to the desired environment of the lucid dream.

Then, project desired dream thoughts onto said environment when little to no detail is present.

Sounds doable. I don't play video games though. Any suggestions?

Would it be sufficient to do something like take a walk for a few hours as to condition my subconscious experiences to remember a city environment, or does that introduce too much variance if I'm walking to different places?
just fall asleep thinking about what ever you want to dream about
 

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So, essentially, first be immersed in a single environment or experience for a long period of time, for example, a full day of a chosen video game, which is ideally close enough to the desired environment of the lucid dream.

Then, project desired dream thoughts onto said environment when little to no detail is present.

Sounds doable. I don't play video games though. Any suggestions?

Would it be sufficient to do something like take a walk for a few hours as to condition my subconscious experiences to remember a city environment, or does that introduce too much variance if I'm walking to different places?
I think that would work yeah, it just depends on the way you categorize information. For example, if you saw every part of the city as a unique attraction as oppose to being apart of a larger, inter-related city then you might not associate all these locations as cityscapes. The associative memory is really the nexus between these events. If you walked in a forest for hours on end to the extent you just thought about the whole forest as trees and vegetation you'd probably have a good shot for lucid dreaming.
 

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All my lucid dreams start when I recognise some paradox in the dream I'm having. Understanding that I'm dreaming, I take control of the dream. The moment when you ask yourself: "am I dreaming?" is crucial. You can probably rehearse it in your waking life (props for getting the reference), consolidating a habit which you will retain in dreams. Just randomly ask yourself throughout your day: "am I dreaming?", and look for cues in your environment and memory that you are. One of my lucid dreams started when I was speaking to my mother, and realized that was impossible, because my mother is dead. Paradox... So I went flying, annihilating the monsters who had captured her with my superpowers.

I'm not sure lucid dreaming is healthy. It involves messing with a very important mechanism of your brain.
 

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I daydream about being a T1000 but I know I'm not liquid metal so when I'm killed or wounded in a dream and discover that I'm apparently made of liquid metal it tells me I'm not in my real body therefore I must be dreaming.
 

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I notice I reject visual stimulus. I do not absorb it. Being an Ni type, I role my eyes looking at unconscious images. I will try to be more relaxed now and absorptive. I was going inward too much. I was blocking both inside and outside. I'll try not to do that.
 

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I notice I reject visual stimulus. I do not absorb it. Being an Ni type, I role my eyes looking at unconscious images. I will try to be more relaxed now and absorptive. I was going inward too much. I was blocking both inside and outside. I'll try not to do that.
Visual thinking is the best, don't let anyone tell you otherwise: A world of imagination unhinged by physical laws.
 

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when you realize you have been depressed for the last month and thats why you havent done shit
 

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Had a dream last night where I was being attacked by zombies and casting a sort of stun spell on them using a particular phrase. I can't remember the words exactly but it didn't sound magical more like a recipe for a cocktail but with salt water in it and that was the point. It almost made sense but you couldn't make sense of it but it wasn't definitively nonsensical either and the zombies were trapped in their minds by this riddle they could neither solve nor manage to ignore.
 

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I feel sadness is good for mental clarity: We're all living a collective hallucination of the world fueled by emotions and pleasure. Pensive sadness sobers you up from the flow of life, the contemplation makes you consider the life you have been living. It's rare we experience mental clarity when emotions, goals and pleasures occupy our mind. The next time you're sad embrace your feelings.
 

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I was thinking, should we create a forum/thread for symbolism? This can include representations of meaning in art, ancient symbols and so forth. I'm not sure about others but there are a few symbols that have hidden layers I'd like to dissect.
 

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A few lines from poems that've always struck a chord for me:


"To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour" - Everyone experiences reality, ideals and imagination are outside of that reality. Look into the world unknown by most.

"Errors, like straws, upon the surface flow:
He who would search for pearls must dive below." - Do not assume you're right in the first instance, explains Dunning-Kruger and that one cannot find truth in a day.

" My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.” Do not strive for legacy to be recognised as great by others.


"Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light. " Don't live life passively: You are a kindle to a fire, do not live life as a candle on another's bedside.
 

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I joined a fb INTP group today and it looks like genuine trash, who would've guessed the recluses on the internet had more stimulating content that a fb group?
 

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I joined a fb INTP group today and it looks like genuine trash, who would've guessed the recluses on the internet had more stimulating content that a fb group?
e_e what on earth does the fb OP mean by that? I'm curious, but i'm neither high nor smart enough to comprehend this mistery... :clap:

I was thinking, should we create a forum/thread for symbolism? This can include representations of meaning in art, ancient symbols and so forth. I'm not sure about others but there are a few symbols that have hidden layers I'd like to dissect.
Such as?
 

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I joined a fb INTP group today and it looks like genuine trash, who would've guessed the recluses on the internet had more stimulating content that a fb group?
e_e what on earth does the fb OP mean by that? I'm curious, but i'm neither high nor smart enough to comprehend this mistery... :clap:

I was thinking, should we create a forum/thread for symbolism? This can include representations of meaning in art, ancient symbols and so forth. I'm not sure about others but there are a few symbols that have hidden layers I'd like to dissect.
Such as?
Historical symbols, pieces of art and such. The layers in the virtuvian man and how they represent themes in our cognition, how the concept of dragons has polymorphed through out eras, masculinity and feminity, hidden meanings behind stories like The Sphinx of Thebes, stuff like that.

How meaning transcends time, and how patterns disassemble and reassemble a few hundred years later.
 

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I joined a fb INTP group today and it looks like genuine trash, who would've guessed the recluses on the internet had more stimulating content that a fb group?
e_e what on earth does the fb OP mean by that? I'm curious, but i'm neither high nor smart enough to comprehend this mistery... :clap:
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Would be funny in a humour group like vagueposting but the cognitive dissonance is staggering: Expecting ideas and getting a humour salad.
 

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I joined a fb INTP group today and it looks like genuine trash, who would've guessed the recluses on the internet had more stimulating content that a fb group?
Definitely lost brain cells reading that. Some "trash" can be filtered to derive something meaningful, however, not sure what to take from that except perhaps that ...Drugs exist, okay, yes, good. Very good. Very bad. Very. Also very good.

The layers in the virtuvian man and how they represent themes in our cognition
How meaning transcends time
how patterns disassemble and reassemble a few hundred years later.
I like these concepts

Would be funny in a humour group like vagueposting but the cognitive dissonance is staggering: Expecting ideas and getting a humour salad.
Welcome to the internet may I take your order

Oh, wasn't expecting that at all when you said photo dump, I thought you were going to send pretty art pictures LOL. Did you ask for her consent before publicly posting that or is that just a thing that Gen Z does?

Regardless yeah uhhhh she has her horoscope in her profile, how one can be both INTP and make their horoscope a central part of one's identity perplexes me
 

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Oh, wasn't expecting that at all when you said photo dump, I thought you were going to send pretty art pictures LOL. Did you ask for her consent before publicly posting that or is that just a thing that Gen Z does?

Regardless yeah uhhhh she has her horoscope in her profile, how one can be both INTP and make their horoscope a central part of one's identity perplexes me
Didn't ask for consent but you can share people's profiles if you're on tinder by sending it to a friend, I'm sure extending that function to a random forum thread can't get me sued haha.

I'm a taurus so I guess you wouldn't understand :/
 

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What horoscope do I appear to be?

Why do you believe in horoscopes?
 

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What horoscope do I appear to be?

Why do you believe in horoscopes?
No I don't believe in Horroscopes, it be a joke.

I think they're defined by the year you were born in. I was born in May so I'm a taurus
 

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Ah, lol.

Joke translation is hard online. I guess nothing beats memes and videos for comic relief.
 

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Alcohol's a necessary evil to socialise with a lot of friends, debating on whether to see friends tonight at a gig or just watch TV. Woke up at 12:30pm which is really, really late.
 

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£12 until thursday, 3 packets of noodles, some pasta but no protein.

Think I'll get 24 eggs, some rice and fish.

Let's not get this bread, baby.
 

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Good luck on your scholarship application. Wish I could have eggs but they're not anti-inflammatory for me

That level of stoicism will serve you well in the future
 

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Good luck on your scholarship application. Wish I could have eggs but they're not anti-inflammatory for me

That level of stoicism will serve you well in the future
I eat eggs mainly because they're packed with readily-absorbed protein, cheap, source of choline (which is pretty rare imo), and other B-vitamins. Oh, and HDL cholesterol.

I don't eat general meat much because it's inflammatory.
 

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Ever feel like you'll have a heart attack?

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Brain, brain go to sleep. Don't you dare make another peep

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Oh my god let me sleep

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Listen to a semi- boring podcast, but not so boring your mind drifts to other thoughts. Don't look at screens.
 

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Screen, blue light? You're getting telepathic messages mate, tsk


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