Woman - The Root of all Evil

[Toad]

Woman. What is woman? Why do we, as men, want them so badly. What power do they have over us!? Why is it that men can hang out with each other with no problem, but as soon as you introduce a woman into the equation problems arise?

Please don't consider this thread sexist or anything. I really have nothing against women. I love women.

My theory is that woman has been the cause for man's suffering since humans were able to feel pain.

Men fight each other over women. We put ourselves through school. We work our asses off. For what? For ourselves? Maybe, partially for ourselves. But mainly because we hope one day to find a beautiful intelligent woman to marry us. Than what happens after we finally find a girlfriend or get married? They try to change everything that makes us happy! Why must they always try to change us?!?!? I was a fun guy before my gf...she destroyed my spirit. I had to quit smoking. I have to comb my hair, do my laundry, and always look "nice" for her. I can't eat junk food. I can't even eat after 10 o'clock for god sakes! If I do break any of her rules she makes me feel so guilty I could kill myself.

Can you imagine a world with out women? Let's just say we do not have a desire to have sex. The world would be the most peaceful fucking place in the universe. We would probably be united as one nation and have colonies in mars by now.

So in conclusion, women (may it be unintentional) are the root of all evil for men. EVERYTHING that men do are to impress woman.

 

[Felan]

I can better imagine a world without men than a world without women.

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

women are the downfall of men (i believe women are in control, not men)

50-50, one gender had to be eternally horny, men (arguably ) drew the short straw and thus have a libido the size of nobody's avatar.

the purpose of life is to continue life. be it continue your own life (survival) or continue the species (reproduction)
this purpose is over-powering and uncontrolable, the most primal animal desire


i will now leave the clever ones to long posts and chemical relations

 

[Agent Intellect]

i'm thinking this is a personal problem (or, at least not one that shared across the board). i've never had any trouble with women, i treat them exactly the same as i do men. of course, it's not that big of a problem when one isn't always concerned with "chasing tail" and trying to get laid. women themselves are not the problem, its the men that obsess over them.

also, if it wasn't for competitiveness amongst males to court females, evolution wouldn't have worked so well in our favor.

 

[Toad]

Ok guys think of it though. Why do we do the things we do?

For women!!!!

We do we start wars? To gain land and money? Maybe freedom? Why do we need land, money, and freedom? So we can impress women and have the freedom to have sex with them!

It all comes down to women...either women or our horribly crazy sex drive.

 

[flow]

Women are root of all that is good in the world, too.

 

[Toad]

I feel that everything I do is for women. I mean. Why do I work? Is it for myself? Yes, but my needs are easy to satisfy. I work hard to make more money so I can impress a girl and have sex with her. If I really think about it...everything I do comes down to impressing girls. Everything...very sad really....

 

[Cryss Winters]

sounds very Freudian. I don't think that all my actions and thoughts are driven by my need to have sex. It's simply not that important.

 

[Toad]

Maybe not just sex, but companionship too?

 

[Cryss Winters]

Maybe not just sex, but companionship too?

Yes. but I believe I can have companionship with a female or a male.

 

[Fukyo]

The "problem" would be solved if no men existed as well.

Women do a lot for men too.Clothes,make-up,plastic surgery.etc.It's is instinctual for humans to make themselves appealing to the other gender.It's called "keeping the species alive".

So,why not have an all female society instead?

My point is,the same could be said for men.
Men-the root of all evil.I'm sure there's quite a few women who think the same way.

 

[Anthile]

This thread is just... wrong.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

In the absence of women, men abide to a strict hierarchy and solve disputes with immediate decisive action and once the dispute has been settled all is forgiven.
(Of course in our mixed society there are some men who act like women)

In the absence of men, (I’m guessing) women abide to a strict sort of communism and avoid disputes altogether, instead making compromises and sometimes just avoiding the issue for sake of keeping the peace.
(Of course in our mixed society there are some women who act like men)

When the two social systems are mixed some men start acting like women while some women start acting like men and everybody ends up conflicting with everyone else because nobody knows how the hell they're supposed to act.

In short,
ALL YOU HUMANS SUCK!

 

[Cryss Winters]

When the two social systems are mixed some men start acting like women while some women start acting like men and everybody ends up conflicting with everyone else because nobody knows how the hell they're supposed to act.

In short,
ALL YOU HUMANS SUCK!

this made me chuckle..

 

[Agent Intellect]

In short,
ALL YOU HUMANS SUCK!

sounds like you came to the same conclusion as Sartre.

i've never found impressing women (or other people in general, for that matter) to be of much motivation. i'm thinking its more an individual preference then a sweeping statement that all [insert gender] are the root of evil. but, of course, i suffer from a severe and utter lack of motivation, so i assume that my indifference towards companionship or sex isn't such a positive thing.

 

[Ogion]

[...]
Please don't consider this thread sexist or anything. I really have nothing against women. I love women.[...]

Suuure.

Ogion

 

[Tyria]

So,why not have an all female society instead?

Sign me up for that society. I would love to live in this paradise

 

[Toad]

Hahaha.

We should split the earth in half with men on one side and women on the other. THEN we will see which civilization will be the better. Of course we would have to have a select group of men and women to procreate and continue the species.

I volunteer to be one of those men!

 

[Jordan~]

Simply be male and resistant to the charms of the opposite sex, favouring the attractions of a manly physique instead. All of your problems will be solved, and your salary, on average, will be slightly higher.

Re: Splitting men and women into different civilisations: No breeding would be required! We could just send sperm on a boat piloted by hermaphrodites every now and then, and they could return with all the male children.

 

[Ogion]

Both will die out of course because of no reproduction...
I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with that (split the land for women/men).

Ogion

Eh, didn't read carefully your 'proposal'. But still, i find i just silly.

 

[Fukyo]

Vandread.

 

[Tyria]

Vandread.

It did sort of work. I'm not sure how, but... yeah.

I loved that series. It's like an anime on Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus.

 

[Fukyo]

Vandread is one of my favorite animes.The interactions of the genders were very nicely portrayed.Sometimes humorous,sometimes dramatic.

*Shuts up now,not to derail the thread*

 

[Jordan~]

Both will die out of course because of no reproduction...
I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with that (split the land for women/men).

Ogion

Eh, didn't read carefully your 'proposal'. But still, i find i just silly.

Of course it's silly. That was the point.

 

[EloquentBohemian]

Speaking as a heterosexual male here, there are two things in this world which will turn a self-contained confident male into a blathering idiot - falling in love with a woman and holding your own child in your arms.

If women are 'the source of all evil', then brand me a satanist and may I burn for eternity in that hell.

 

[Tyria]

I personally think that misunderstanding, arrogance, and a refusal to see things in other ways are some factors that limit both men and women. I don't think that one sex is the bane of the other, but I do think that we are limited in our experience because we are not able to simultaneously process information according to male and female modes of thought. The sexes do have biological differences in their brains, and most likely different ways of processing information (and coming to conclusions based on that information).

I would agree that men are oftentimes changed by women. In most cases I do not think it is a malicious intent to change (I'm going general here, but I think most women want to lovingly improve men). In any relationship, compromise and understanding are key to moving forward. Without compromise, it will be a battle of strength and will (and may end up causing more harm than good even if one party 'wins'.)

 

[loveofreason]

To the OP.

So long as you refuse responsibility for you own desires then yes, you shall believe external objects control you.

 

[Vrecknidj]

Read Sartre's essay on The Hole.

I, for one, don't buy it, but it seems to fit the nature of this particular thread.

Dave

 

[Artifice Orisit]

We could have a gender-war to determine which is better, well at war anyway.
Then the victorious survivors can celebrate by having a party shortly followed by suicide.

Why you ask, because we're all going to die anyway and at least this way we could have a good laugh at ourselves before we do. In effect we would be treating life itself like a video game, playing it for the sheer enjoyment of playing, and if it must end, then so be it.

(I am of course, kidding)

 

[Ermine]

Speaking as a heterosexual male here, there are two things in this world which will turn a self-contained confident male into a blathering idiot - falling in love with a woman and holding your own child in your arms.

If women are 'the source of all evil', then brand me a satanist and may I burn for eternity in that hell.

Touche.

I think my apparent intelligence is cut in half whenever I'm around a really attractive (inside and out) guy. I suppose falling in love is even worse.

 

[echoplex]

It's not the women, it's the desire for said women. The desire has to be filled and extensive measures are often taken to ensure that it is. It's not a woman's fault that she is desired. The idea of men doing *everything* to impress women seems to speak more of obsession than healthy sexuality, but there is truth to it obviously. Either way, whatever a man does to impress women is the fault of his own prioritization of women. He chooses to do so in accordance with his own nature.

And to the notion that women make us dumb: What's wrong with a little dumb? Anyone who can't appreciate stupid fun isn't really alive (there! I said it!). It seems to be intellectual vanity to assume you can always be the 'smart' one. Sometimes you just have to be a happy blathering idiot, like EB said. You can be smart when you're dead...

 

[Mud~Eye]

We could have a gender-war to determine which is better, well at war anyway.
Then the victorious survivors can celebrate by having a party shortly followed by suicide.

Why you ask, because we're all going to die anyway and at least this way we could have a good laugh at ourselves before we do. In effect we would be treating life itself like a video game, playing it for the sheer enjoyment of playing, and if it must end, then so be it.

(I am of course, kidding)

But which side will the women that "act like men" be on?

 

[Artifice Orisit]

Sides are irrelevant, the idea is that everyone has given up on making a better world, given up on striving and suffering, given up on life, so they dance with death as they set fire to the world; the gender war is just the music that they dance to, there may be many such songs before everyone is done.

A more succinct answer would be whatever side she wants, or simply her own.

 

[snowqueen]

Red Toad - shut up your whinging. If you don't like the relationship with you girlfriend then either change it or leave and find a different one. The problem isn't women it's that you're not man enough yet to take responsibility for your life. I feel really sorry for your girlfriend when I read your posts about her. Do her a favour and let her go so she can get a boyfriend she deserves. Then you can get on with being a grubby druggy and everyone will be happy.

Man up!

Speaking as a heterosexual male here, there are two things in this world which will turn a self-contained confident male into a blathering idiot - falling in love with a woman and holding your own child in your arms.

If women are 'the source of all evil', then brand me a satanist and may I burn for eternity in that hell.

You might like to take some lessons from EB who clearly is a man.

To the OP.

So long as you refuse responsibility for you own desires then yes, you shall believe external objects control you.

like she said ...

 

[Mud~Eye]

Sides are irrelevant, the idea is that everyone has given up on making a better world, given up on striving and suffering, given up on life, so they dance with death as they set fire to the world; the gender war is just the music that they dance to, there may be many such songs before everyone is done.

A more succinct answer would be whatever side she wants, or simply her own.

Oh, Cog-it was a jab, sweetheart. I guess it was too subtle. Damn, I must sharpen that sword of mine.

 

[Mud~Eye]

Red Toad, snowqueen should now be your very best friend.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

If your going to "jab" me don't hide behind subtlety, be bold and decisive.
Get a gun.

 

[Decaf]

If your going to "jab" me don't hide behind subtlety, be bold and decisive.
Get a gun.

I really don't know why I insist on posting lolcats... its a problem.

 

[Mud~Eye]

Well, where's the sport in that? If I pull the gun out, then I'm going to have to use it. You'll die. Sure, I'd mount the trophy, but it just wouldn't be as fun.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

Well, where's the sport in that? If I pull the gun out, then I'm going to have to use it. You'll die.

*hands mud~eye a gun*
Take your best shot.

 

[EloquentBohemian]

*hands mud~eye a gun*
Take your best shot.

...just because

Can you imagine a world with out women? Let's just say we do not have a desire to have sex.

I tried real hard to imagine this, really I did, but I couldn't do it.

So in conclusion, women (may it be unintentional) are the root of all evil for men. EVERYTHING that men do are to impress woman.

Sometimes, men do things to impress other men so as to ingratiate themselves to those men higher up the hierarchial structure. Male to male competition is rampant, and not just to obtain women, either.

 

[Carnap]

Well, some societies implement a mild segregation of the sexes for a good reason ! Have you ever visited an Arabo-muslim country? Everyone is so much more relaxed. Why? Because there is less sexual competition. Women cover themselves and only make themselves sexy for their husbands. If you walk into a shop with your wife, all the men will lower their eyes because they do not want to disrespect you by looking at your wife. It is awesome.

One of the perks is that since, what you would all call being repressed, people restrain themselves and cover, lower their gaze, etc., they all have higher libidos. So marriages stay passionate !

As for the other things, I think you owe it to your gf to look nice. Do you want her to put on sexy lingerie for you? Well, then I think you can comb your hair.

lol@ snowqueen . ouch !

 

[Mud~Eye]

The thought occurs to m.e.,"If I blow Cog's head off, two more may very well sprout up in its place."

Aiming the gun at Cog's head, "If that happens then the situation will be twice as bad. Boys who cook will be accused of acting like girls, while girls who play with trucks will be labled as "tomboys". The entire world will be a place of strict conformity to sexual stereotype, and those who refuse to conform will be ostresized.

OMG! That is how the world is!" Pulls the trigger. "Could Cog actually be human afterall?"

Crap, in typical "N" fashion, I forgot to remove the safety.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

Aiming the gun at Cog's head, "If that happens then the situation will be twice as bad. Boys who cook will be accused of acting like girls, while girls who play with trucks will be labled as "tomboys". The entire world will be a place of strict conformity to sexual stereotype, and those who refuse to conform will be ostresized.

Who's accusing? *sets fire to a nearby straw man*
There is a difference between making an observation regarding the functionality of mono-gender social groups, and asserting that such social systems should be the norm of society; there is even more of a difference if you compare it to the upholding of gender stereotypes.
*picks through the small pile of ash, looking for any remaining bits of straw*

 

[Melkor]

Hrm..

In all honesty, I think males, with their overactive hormones, supreme violence and distint instinct, are more cause for our troubles than females.

It shows in crime statisitcs quite well that young males are responsible for most crimes.

And an all male society?

That wouldn't work..

Even if everyone was homosexual, and they had some mass cloning technology, gender roles are important in certain aspects of society.

It'd be like a society of women in male bodies.

i also think that women have a waywith children that men will neve rhave.

It's simply a human thing that we can't escape.

I mean, if I see a guy walking down a dark alley, I get worried, if I see a woman, no matter how scary she looks, I feel fine.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

I mean, if I see a guy waling down a dark alley, I get worried, if I se a woman, no matter hwo scary she looks, I feel fine.

Mugging can be a pain in the ass, but not it's not exactly rape is it.
Can women do that... how?

 

[Melkor]

I bet women could pull it off, they have certain...devices....

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I'll ask lor about that one.

 

[loveofreason]

For such beastly insubordination as asking a question I'll personally show you, little Melkor.


note: Testosterone is the root of all evil.

 

[Melkor]

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[Fedayeen]