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This is interesting and the way it was presented seems to correlate to some degree if you were to condense like the first 3 states into the 1st paradigm worldview, for example. This sounds like the ethical reasoning of someone in the 4th paradigm worldview (moderate). If you think this model is...

I think you may be over-complicating this. The loss of self is ego-related, basically the complete opposite of the 1st paradigm, which is only the self. In either worldview, you still have logistical needs that involve other people. That is when ethical reasoning comes into play, and those...

There is no presumption of morality at all. Simply there is no right or wrong, only chaos and the order imposed by one's will. The description is informational, based on the extensive research of Dr. Parsons and Dr. Potter through thousands of interviews in which they recognized and catalogued...

I think this group mostly just waits for technology to solve ethical issues. But yeah, these are the types of considerations in utilitarianism. Sometimes it is like attempting to quantify something that's qualitative. It's not a false dichotomy, they are just different definitions. A right is...

Oh, also, don't confuse the utopian worldview with living in a utopia. One is a worldview, the other just describes a society. You can have a utopian worldview and not live in a utopia, for example.

Life is no longer about self-interest. You only perceive yourself as part of the whole with no distinction of interests. Sure, but you would have no grounds to oppose slavery, for example. Because whatever benefits the most people is the "good". Justice would be it's a right, part of "Natural...

1st paradigm has a drive to assert control, because they perceive the world as chaotic, and the only order is the one they create for themselves. This would not be satisfied in a utopia where everyone is completely selfless. There is no context for them in which to perceive another life as...

Depends on if you consider family as an extension of self. If so, than 1st paradigm. If not, then tribal, us vs. them, binary.

This corresponds to 1st-2nd paradigm.

I've been revisiting a series of lectures by Daniel Sheehan that I watched 8-10 years ago, and decided to make a summary of the information he provides regarding the 7 modes of ethical reasoning. This model was originally developed and taught by Dr. Talcott Parsons at Harvard (originally 5...

Yeah it was good to get to know you too and I enjoyed reading your posts. You remind me of myself in some ways. Sorry to cut it short but you know me... "Grey Wanderer" ;)

Yeah, I think I'll be taking off. I've investigated this place and my Ne is satisfied. Might come back eventually or check in from time to time, we'll see. Thanks to those who've engaged with me in serious discussion.

Ran across these interesting passages about truth in Francis Bacon's Essays: "The inquiry of truth, which is the love-making or wooing of it; the knowledge of truth, which is the praise of it; and the belief of truth, which is the enjoying of it, is the sovereign good of human natures ."...

The most insightful post in the whole thread and not a single person acknowledged it. Props. How much you have and how much you can give is always the same. It's the psychological perspective: The one who is always wanting more never has enough, but the one who is always giving away always has...

Yeah, I enjoy rogue-like games, but the closest I ever got to playing a permadeath MMO was when I played Day Z for a little bit. Seems like I'd be too prone to over-stressing to enjoy them long-term. Anymore, I rarely have the time to invest to get skilled enough in a game to be confident in it...

I had posted this somewhere else but could apply here as well: I would recommend finding a local boardgame group to participate in, for a few reasons. First, you are likely to find intelligent INs and NTs there who you'd probably share many thought processes with. Second, interaction will...

For me the answer is pursuing something elusive. There needs to be some sort of challenging mystery to unravel to be semi-obsessive about. This can take the form of something related to your dominant Ti (a deep intellectual pursuit that is just beyond your current ability to solve) or related to...

That sounds nice, it's snowing back home, *brrrrrr*... Happy Thanksgiving!

That's the point for me though, it's not just a forum thread, it's people talking to people. I would've been more reserved in my criticism in real life, and it's hypocrisy for me to act differently in a forum because of the security of anonymity. Maybe someday I'll strengthen my humility enough...

Wow, speaking of LOTRO, all expansions are 75% off today. Good man.

Hey Jenny I want to apologize about the WoW thread. I've had a nagging feeling in my subconscious the last few days and I learned a long time ago to act on such feelings. You were bringing up interesting aspects of the game and I had ignored them (and you) in favor of defending a point. I...

It will. Security is not in how much wealth you accumulate, but in how well you respond when it's not there. That can't be taken from you.

My experience between the two types is mostly in my family dynamic. My sister and I are INTP, and my Dad and brother are INTJ (Mom is ISFP). Nary a word was spoken when we were together, but when there were, it was usually my Dad attempting to assert his logical conclusions on the rest of us. My...

Haven't seen you lately. I keep stirring the pot waiting for you to jump in with your midwestern Ni wisdom :)

Skyrim creates a great sense of adventure, though can be a little grindy at times if you let it. It's been awhile but there's a theme in there with werewolves.....or vampires.....or both, can't quite remember. Dragon Age: Origins also creates that sense of adventure and isn't grindy at all...

Nope. I find it useful when ideas make sense. However, if an ailment related to old age is affecting your judgement, by all means bring it up.

We'll let the jury decide on that one (we could start a thread about the things you may or may not say if you'd like, but I think I recall that very thing occurring not too long ago) I was really just busting your balls, though I do think bringing up your age is easily unwanted and/or...

I guess what strikes me the most is the idea that the philosophies of the past are expendable, when I see them more as indispensable. A more appropriate analogy to me would be the pillars of the house we are trying to build. If they collapse, then everything we are working toward collapses.

This would never happen. They wouldn't give a rat's ass about your grand ideas and would band together to maintain the status quo. Your intellect wouldn't satisfy them, their social bond will. You will be cast as a slow-witted eccentric. And you, as the slow-but-deep-witted eccentric will...

*cringe* ...can't.....take.......self-serving........hubris.......! The moment we don't see our own philosophy as expendable at any given moment, there is no hope.

Yep, you were probably one of the horde relentlessly griefing me while was simply trying to collect pieces of metal or somesuch near the catapults in Hellfire Penninsula. Bastards. One of the best moments in the game was when my ENTJ buddy and I returned to the very same location with our lvl...

Yeah, I don't have a problem with anyone spending their money however they feel. I'm not judging any subscribers. I personally don't feel what they offer is worth what they're charging and I gave my reasons. I'd honestly play the game casually if the cost wasn't so high. But maybe that's another...

Exactly the same. All 4 were right next to each other.

The Officer You scored 45% empathic, 12% delusional, 64% sociable, and 54% law-abiding! You're a sane, friendly person with a healthy respect for the law. You're not particularly emotional and may have difficulty connecting with others, but because you do tend to follow...

My sister's an INTP. She's a'ight.

I get all that, but the amount of profit that Blizzard rakes in every year/month/day from the subscriptions to this game alone should tell you they are asking for significantly more than it costs to maintain the development of new content, server maintenance, and staff. The vast majority of...

Not bad if I ever need to gauge by multiple-choice the intended representation of a specific emotion by an actor in a picture. I'll still be an inherently awkward asshat when attempting to comfort a friend who's lost a loved one. But at least I'll be able to tell that they're sad.

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Any WoW players here? My brother (INTJ) used to play religiously when it began but he stopped playing a few years back. I have a couple friends (ISTP and ENTJ) who play together and convinced me to try it out with them like a year ago when all the expansions were on sale super cheap. I asked my...

Is matter prior to consciousness or is consciousness prior to matter? "Yes" to the first = den "Yes" to the second = out of den Pick one and build a worldview around it.

Could be possible. But even if he does like her in that way, INTPs are pretty good about suppressing social interaction and avoiding conflict. Seems unlikely he would make a move while her boyfriend is watching or aware.

I used to do this a lot more, until I finally decided I'd rather people get to know me for who I really am. You'd be surprised by how fast people get used to the actual you. Of course it also helps that I have a wife who explains to them that I don't actually hate them :)

Not sure how you've never "met face to face" when you're in the same class and your "eyes meet by accident throughout the day" (sorry, INTP consistency interrogation). I guess I should assume you mean you've never properly been introduced. Seems like that would be the place to start. Ask to go...

There are some things that I am quite surprised by how well my mind retains them and others that just seem to just fall through the mind cracks. Over the years, I've been trying to piece together a pattern or theme for what information I retain and what I don't, and any more observations from...

I think I can come off like a Te user sometimes because of my tendency to be critical. While I typically keep criticisms to myself, when I do offer them they are usually taken as criticisms at them as opposed to criticisms for them, which is how I intend them. It's probably due to my lack of...

Yeah, I'm 5w4 and I'm more prone to interest in the human internal condition than external, and the experiential aspect of that plays a big part. I tend towards philosophy, psychology, history, and religion (internal) over biology, physics, math, and the like (external). To me, the internal can...

Yep balance is almost mandatory for a healthy life/brain. I work in the arts which forces me to make right brain connections constantly, which proficiency in keeps my left brain out of trouble. In social life, I can relax the left brain to access the right brain in order to smooth interactions...

You guys just need to give it up. computerhxr is trying to say the "idea for relativity" and redbaron can only think "idea of relativity". Both parties seem too invested in their own ego to admit such a small discrepancy. You both made a mistake. Let it go.

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Mystic Theurge 11% Combativeness, 13% Sneakiness, 88% Intellect, 64% Spirituality Brilliant and spiritual! You are a Mystic Theurge! Score! You have a prestige class...