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Hey! I used to waste A LOT of time on this board over five years ago, though I'm sure no one would remember me as I was an infrequent poster. I don't much like the name Logician anymore as most of my character development over that interval has been a steady slide from worshiping logic to. . ...

Whenever i'm alone i explain myself to myself. In other words, i feel as if there is someone who is watching everything I see and hear as though it were i movie, and thus i feel obligated to explain to this "viewer" why i did certain things, what i think about certain things, etc... I assume...

The need for a leader stems from the need for motivation, not the INTPs own lack of leadership ability. While the crisis is at hand, the INTP would have his motivation, but once order and safety is established absent-mindedness and procrastination will once again set in. This may be slightly...

I consider myself very intuitive, and normally can identify problems with peoples psychology, personality, character, etc... fairly quickly. From here i do consciously manipulate, but my manipulation is a attempt to fix their problems, present to them ways of thinking that will counteract the...

Random survivor: "we are running out of food, i thought you said you were getting together a run to the commercial district" INTP: " ya i am don't worry " a week later when the bunker is completely out of food and has been surviving off barely put together meals of scraps the INTP finally...

people are, by default, social being. You may be a introvert, but your still human, and as you feel depressed if you sit around all day doing no physical activity, you will also become depressed if you never interact with people. Its just your bodys way of forceing you to do what it wants...

either eliminate all people who i feel are manipulating society in a bad way ( lack of individuality in our times has cause "society" to be nearly its own, single entity. or at best a collection of two or more large entitles at war with each other.). Or become, myself, a figure with the ability...

@Kuu~ hating society doesn't make you any less separate from it, only makes the way in which it influences you different than one who embraces it, but no less potent. My parents never tried to make me believe Santa was real, or my mom may have but my dad would have considered it wrong and...

an INTP at its best is a INTP with a well developed Fe. Honestly, a INTP in Fe mode very closely resembles a fictional character with large portions of charisma, intelligence, cunning, and manipulation (for those of you who like tropes, magnificent bastard). but only if you have really mastered...

Your not stupid, you enjoy the act of being stupid, your impulsive and random with a well developed Fe for a INTP (or your a child/pre-teen, in which case its perfectly normal and expected for a INTP with some form of social ability). being stupid gives you the freedom to act on your INTP-ish...

Most people i meet and respect, if not all, tell me I'm intelligent. I'm also incredibly intuitive, i can learn and understand things at a rate that astonishes others sometimes. for example, i me and my friend were playing a new video game, i would have a grasp of all the games mechanics within...

I am working on getting a permanent avatar, but i cannot find anything i would like to use, after all, there is nothing in this world i enjoy more than psychological manipulation, and the avatar is one of the key components in creating just the right character representation of me in your mind.

I don't really categorize any of you as specific fictional characters, but i do try to see how well you all fit into different... tropes? or does the word tropes only apply to actual fictional characters? Anyway i do analyze you till i have a rudimentary understanding of your looking glass...

This kind of understanding of Pathos and how to manipulate it isn't in and of itself evil... I do this all the time, i beleive myself to be superior to most people ( all but the most unique among the readers just dubbed me pretentious ) and thus i manipulate them into respecting me so that i can...

although several people now have said "your on to something logician" i don't believe this topic can progress in discussion. If im right, then by the very rules i stated, we could never interact with these others and could do nothing to affect any slight, coincidental effect they have on us or...

perhaps i was wrong to use kinesthesia for an example of a "shadow sense". better would be something like; when you see a person of great charisma walk into the room, you can feel the presence of his personality. However if a person of little character walks into the room (say, a typical society...

Re: planes of existance think of a being that has sight as a shadow sense. they can almost feel the presence of it in a way similar to us almost being able to feel "someone watching us". They cannot "see" a couch by the light reflection off it, because their version of sight is far inferior to...

Re: planes of existance perhaps we can sense the charismatic auras of people, and people who claim to be able to do this just have a better sense of this than most and not just be good at judging people. basically, perhaps a certain type of emotion is a shadow sense, and that if enough input...

i hope i can articulate myself clearly, I'm very tiered right now as the large social gathering of thanksgiving drained much of my energy. but i just had a thought and decided it was worth posting for discussion on these forums. It may seem obvious to you that if two consciousnesses exist that...

but if each wants what is best for the other than they would have to instead take care of themselves as best they can in order to please the other, as is their desire, no?

@ Zero: The want to be completely individual and free from all emotions that might be a obstacle to your clarity of thought is, as I've noticed, very common among thinkers, but eventually you will come to the conclusion that you are human, as much as you may want to believe that you are so...

well theres allways the chance that you really are better than them (intellectually), you are, after all, a INTP... the master race. but in all seriousness as a NT you might not be necessarily smarter than 95% of all people, as a matter of fact you most likely arent (depending of course on the...

I talk to my-self alot in my head, and often outloud (alone, although some of my friends tell me that sometimes when i "zone out" if they leave me alone for a while ill start verbally speaking to myself) in my head its like many of you have describes, exept my "alter-ego" to whom a compare...

well right under my name it says elitist, so i guess im found out on this matter, which by the way i need to change... it was more of a temporary thought than a lasting mind set. However id still like to comment. we are not all snowflakes, perfectly individual and unique. If it must be said...

ya i just reached that conclusion... it just bugs the hell out of me when people think there right when its obvious they arent for egotistical reasons. and thank you

being a INTP girl you could make a INTXs dream come true if you found one, so yes it may be tough not being able to get along with most people, but honestly, as far as dateing goes, its tougher on the guys. like you said INTP girls are very rare, and i simply cant tolerate a non-NT... ive been...

i never argue!!! im the most humble person i know!! And im going to make sure the whole world knows about it...

you have 58 posts and your just now posting an intr.... nvm welcome

i dont disagree with you outright, like i said its just something i roll around. and yes... with ample charisma we INTPs would be very very powerful individuals

In my version of a perfect world we would all be INTPs... not less of us. not the type of INTP we all are though, the bitterness a apathy shown by us is a product of circumstance in my opinion, however i think it was our INTPness (people were jelous of its massive mental powers[ if you dont...

precisely.. you know thinking about it... i commonly see INTPs here talking about how they imagine how something could have been done to greater destruction, or how something could be used for max devastation... most of us (hopefully) just do this as a mental exercise, but we if we didnt...

I don't see the problem, because we like their meat and milk cattle are a extremely succesfull species. thier population is enomous and they are allowed to reproduce easily, they are very very well fed and if they become ill we treat them to make them better. Of course, we slaughter them, but i...

I see the quote "well, then kill him too" could also be more of a warning. if anyperson harbers a grudge for too long the only option that will seem to make sense to them is retaliation, and as hermits are assciated with INTPs, and for the reason givin above about how a INTP not keeping his...

My father is INTJ, which is nearly the same as INTP. With the knowledge that personality types are passed through genes to some extent, and that INTP/INTJ's tend to try their best to raise children capable of individual critical thinking, one of the most significant traits that forms a...

hmm... you dabble in religions but don't plunge because you think they are to restricting? i accept the laws of physics, yet i think gravity is very restricting. That doesn't mean i will only skim the top of physics but not study to hard because its just depressing to know we're bound by...

i dont care about how people perceive me, however i do have goals and being liked does wanders. and whether or not what i think is reality is or is not reality, poor actions can have consequences and good ones reap benefits. so that's irrelevant, i still have to act.

I'm just going to keep this short, as id rather present myself as time goes on in the various interesting threads on this forum. I am a teenage, male INTP who has managed to establish himself socially, which i believe is uncommon. Of course I'm not really me when I'm around friends i don't...