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May be semantically wrong, but contextually I'm sure you got the point so why are you even bothered?!. I meant Ti's type of discernment. Perfect precise statement is a myth. There's always a shadow meaning (that's what's Ni about). Though I tried to make it as precise as possible (a lot of...

2plus2equalsfive, you're INTJ I think. Try this Whenever Ni dom tries to decipher his Ni before getting himself typed (or just he shares the lack of deep understanding of Ni with other types) the result is similar to what you're experiencing. Ni doms have a better insight resulting from...

Firstly, renaming a pre-existing theory doesn't make a new one. It would be sort of exegesis. Your posts happen to be in an MBTI forum.:eek: Although it would be the only differentiating part, I don't see a line (signature or a permanent sentence) stating that you speak a different theory (that...

I think you got caught up in your theory about typing in real-time. Though most parts of it can be stood up to, you wouldn't need to mix things up. for your sake of credibility and for MBTI being a whole. So PLEASE keep 'em apart.

First of all, I think no one can type someone better than himself given the specific knowledge (which you have) and flexibility to introspect. so this is for the sake of the debate. It's true but it's just a temptation to reform most of the time not expressive. Fe is not that comfortable to...

I think you're trying to prove it by keep saying "you're not becoming ESFJ". Instead I guess, you can add some objectivity, may be, by implementing some methods to check if his behavior was draining or not (or whatever method you can use) or at least present simple explanation for his behavior...

That what makes me often think Adymus is INXJ (INFJ may be). Ni quickly grasps the idea even guesses the next move (question). Ni-Fe enthusiastically corrects and reforms. Adymus, sorry to type the "Typology Guru" regardless of knowing how old or developed are you but you made a post using...

Though it's easy to similar minds to have a common ground for understanding (some people think other personality is better). I think any two developed personalities can enjoy their life together and figure many ways to connect and reconnect. It's all about intentions and again how developed...

INSIGHTFUL POST Adymus.

NB:there are many assumptions here so bear with me. Yesterday I was reading about Ni in L.T exegesis wiki. It contains valuable information. This proposed definition intrigues me. I guess the more you get this definition applied (not exclusive to "saying") the more you get a better...

NB:there are many assumptions here so bear with me. Yesterday I was reading about Ni in L.T exegesis wiki. It contains valuable information. This proposed definition intrigues me. I guess the more you get this definition applied (not exclusive to "saying") the more you get a better...

BAP we don't mock what we don't understand or what we don't have. if we have to, is it worse to have a subjective perception or a subjective logic ?:confused: just wondering ... whatever you pride yourself on.

I was reading lots of stuff about Ni, I quote some intjforum

the core of Ni function is XOR I know some will be pissed off but I'm tempted. sorry:D

INTPs waste their time dealing consciously with the abstract (everyone's unconscious is perfectly involuntarily does this job "kidding", Ni people get it through their 'unconscious' grapevine:rolleyes:). I think that why INTPs are underachievers till some INTPs get the hang of bringing out...

I infer no one can use one of the shadow functions positively since no control over them (is it true???). I did read something about the positive side of shadow functions.

I was having trouble to understand Ni but I guess I won't anymore. No definition or analysis could help me understand this function better. thanks to BigApplePi and of course Anthile. this thread should be emblazoned. Your function/s complement/s each other.:)

how does this resemble Te? I don't claim experience but I've seen such a thing in many INTPs (with easy to notice dominant Ti)

Yes machines are highly infallible. Man delegates to machines to do many jobs for him though this is not knowledge (we're not discussing AT, I guess). Knowledge is the consequent of abstract thinking.

I think the fifth function is the easiest and even the most appealing to develop and to be used in a positive way. It can be coupled with the tertiary which keeps tempting. It can be trusted over the disreputable inferior. When used it gains reputation and experience i.e developed. Comparing to...

I highly doubt it. How could you explain the genetic predisposition to schizophrenia. I know it's pathological but still fits properly.

I didn't read all of the post but whenever discussion about a system is brought up, this comes to me and I think I can't get rid of it: ZOOM IN/OUT our center of attention influences what we perceive to be processed to build conceptions, ideas and judgment. When we try to comprehend something...

11/20 though I used eyes for discrimination but also kept an eye for how fast does it go off.

insightful post, Adymus Do you mean by "all of them become closer to your identity" that you develop all of them and become skillful using them? if it's true, then (let's take it to the extremity) there will be no or negligible differences between these types: INTP ENTP ESFJ ISFP regarding...

Adymus, would you please write something about shadow functions and jungian shadow? I know you're busy but try some short notes. please wouldn't be ENTJ? (Te,Ni,Se,Fi) Ok, what about using Se unconsciously? on the other type of perceiving Ne has something to do with hunches, this can be...

according to my basic understanding of MBTI, the upper four CFs are consciously used and other four unconsciously used "what's known as shadow" which is one of the archetypes of the unconscious mind. sometimes I think of Ni and Fi as mere unconscious functions, and wonder how could someone use...

Now I get it. thanks for detailing.

I agree with the second part FeNe but I think TiFe will suppress each other in fact Fe will direct Ti well if you have developed it well. Then you can use you Ti in tandem with Ne on new subject.

sorry I didn't read it all Now I think s/he still will be typed as an INTP with developed inferior function I get it unless someone wants to add more. I found it in this: Quote: Originally Posted by Words So, to put it simply, it only shows the...

how can someone feel more comfortable using their draining function? I think this can only be possible 'may be' by training on putting more conscious efforts on their relatively unconscious functions but this surely will transcend being typed as INTP.

thanks to 420MuNkEy Saeros and Dormouse for using your 'Ne' to get a deep insight into what being discussed and not just drifted by the words :)

what are you trying to prove here? being rude? you don't have to. you could simply discuss the ideas without acting up. you should know, everything is debatable except rudeness.

On the contrary I tend to use slang, sometimes complex words or even terminology, whatever I found 'cause I lack those simple precise meaningful words. In fact I talk like a book 'cause that type of language "text material" are what I'm familiar with (or may I say exposed to 'if it's right')...

Ugh, I wasn't trying to cover up or something, simply I was trying to point it out 'cause it seems what I posted was a misleading sentence, judging by most of the responses. sorry, my bad, victim of English being my second language.

The dilemma is, INTP is not a believer though ever tries to believe in something.

some INTPs (though I'm not sure if they actually are) are bragging about being INTPs and sometimes go beyond that and start acting rude. There's nothing to brag about. It's just another personality type. It does not necessarily relate to achievements or success.

Astrology by no means compares to MBTI. It tries to figure out personality by identifying planets that control the person by knowing where and when s/he was born. that's ridiculous.

'cause I suffer very much from rephrasing.

Does limitation of using a second language affect being typed correctly?

how can you be so sure?

Always hot and sunny .. lol so you know something about Sudan is she a member in this forum?

I'm newbie so bear with me. Most of the posts I've been reading was posted in "INTP to ENTP project" thread. I've been here months ago read some posts saved some pages. Couple of days ago while searching on that pile of pages, started reading posts on that thread by chance. I liked it and...

Always hot and sunny .. lol so you know something about Sudan is she a member in this forum?

THANKS TO YOU ALL glad to know you I hope we get to know each other soon

I don't think that what forum was created for in the first place. You know, I wasn't expecting much on 'Hi' thread on an introverted forum let alone INTP forum and I'm more than happy with that 'cause it means I landed on the right place. I didn't expect this also. I think I dignified you with...

I say good to know you too. lol

I just wanted to say Hi I got to the forum by chance a month ago and read some posts here and there in a hurry. I saved the pages so I can read them later on. Yesterday I started to read some posts namely Boradicus' thread about his project on I/E switch and I like it. I'm impressed by the way...

Language is not just a way to express thoughts so that thoughts directly are not or slightly affected by expression. but language is also the comprehensible words or sounds and I think that comprises the greatest and most important part. I think language is an inevitable interdependent...