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Paving through the jungle yourself is essential to be a great rational, free thinker. You acquire tools and methods on the way that are very very important. Reading scientific and philosophical texts are also quite important, but you have to be the one who evaluates all information in the end.

What you should and shouldn't do is totally relative in our world. We poor mortal souls are too dumb to be held responsible for anything. We naturally do what's on top of our value systems, defined by what you had been exposed to during childhood and afterwards. I'm trying to find some...

The fundamental layer behind the physical world surrounding us consists of systems interacting with each other when viewed from a purely informational aspect. What we call math is a very developed formal language aimed at describing similar things to just that, hence the parallelism. -> System...

There is answer but it's too complicated for us humans, nihilism and depression is the way of übermenscen sadly, at least you are not totally alone.

Truth is a statement that is true. A statement is true if it describes a particular subset of reality at a particular level of abstraction with full consistency. A statement is a form of information, so the agents communicating this information further implicitly need to be defined, which is...

Do you have existential problems facing you other than just being bored? If not, then you're only seeing the tip of iceberg, I think.

That is all true, although we are seeking not-necessarily-subjective values here that are not just products of imprinted evolutionary progress. The existence of these kind of values are the question, I think.

That sounds a little bit equivocal to me.. The good and bad that you think exist, were you just talking about the notion of good and bad in any man's head, or as "somewhat objective" moral singularities??

If they exist, what defines them?

So? Any conclusion of yourself regarding this topic?

There can only be one being who's capable of being evil, and that's the one who has been spectating the agony of millions of people (at the least) throughout the ages. The existence of the good 'ol "good and bad" is somewhat similar to God's existence, you can't prove it, neither disprove it...

Nice, I'm just getting into Java, Scala is built upon Java so it will be easier to learn. Do you know if people program Ai's in Scala? (Focused on problem solving.)

Interesting.. Maybe the question could be simplified to this: Which is better for the self, eternal conscious experience of the "void", or... the lack of it.

Really, stop this personality type hype.. It's not about being intp, it's about having an interest in gaining wisdom, knowing that making right decisions is usually a product of prospecting nature. I haven't always been an intp, and I'm already becoming something else. I became -somewhat...

Just use common sense meanings for these words, since it's a general, common sense question. Also, it's not about answering the question but finding out if there is any way of answering it..

The thread -I think- is directed at defining the threshold that one has to overcome as he is enduring severe pain, and then come up with an ultimate decision: it's better for me to die now.. One end of the spectrum can be a man with great elements of his life worth fighting for, a passionate...

Analogies. Works like a charm as an educational tool. One of the very few ways of providing a method to communicate a picture of reasons at once.

If the answer is yes, then here's an argument: Imagine a world of any kind, record its state, wait 1 hour and record its state again. If this world was totalistic, then with the same starting states the same outcomes came. So if you turned back this world's time by one hour, back to the starting...

Yeah, well, this is one of the trickiest (obviously incomprehensive) question of all.. What's really interesting is what defines someone's "threshold", as some of you've mentioned. It shows how relative this question is, not just depending on the circumstances but on the individual and his value...

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But if our world (universe) is nested in another universes of a different kind, then, if we take that universe too which alters some of this world's particles and matter, could we talk about totalism then? Anything that does something in the macro and micro world does it for a reason, as a...

But since we have the exact same starting states, the exact same physical laws, and a closed system with constant, homogen outer forces (gravity), the outcome should be the same, shouldn't it?

Not really.. Even though many aspects are indeed relative, many are not. Like a society is better than another one if the only difference between them is that the former has lower infant mortality rate. We can make absolute distinctions based on the foundings of our moral system.

For instance, let's take the simplest example: we hit the white ball with a force on a billiard table so then it hits the rest lf the balls. After a brief period of time all balls will have a certain position. So the question is, if we (could) repeat the action in the same way as before, with...

I wouldn't call this a trait of our personality types. It is just a wiser thing to value prospecting much more on various fields of human life, since it usually provides more effective way of gaining wisdom generally. Though many people consider this type of learning, driven by analyzing and...

You've just defined my future marriage :D.

Btw, it doesn't matter what sociopathism is. I just used the word sociopath because you named the perpetrator of the tormenting (yourself) as a (the) sociopath, its meaning is not relevant.

Yes, the example must be precise. If the individual realizes meaninglessness and hopelessness while under the effect of the act then it should be stated as universally bad for this or any likewise case from the perspective of the individual. Anyways I think we actually arrived to hardcore...

I can't reason against that other than that in this case the socipath must lack empathy, and ignore the ideology of "Live and let live" while still trying to pursue happiness, or fulfillment. Why that is exactly and undoubtedly wrong, I strangely can't answer (yet).. hm.. causes for the damaged...

Hmm, ideal type in the society of USA? How did we arrive to that? Also, you haven't actually reasoned against my point just said "No", whose query and context of meaning I have explained 3 times previously in the thread. I still don't get why 80% of the responses are directed only at that notion.

How is experiencing torment subjective? Can you show me one human being that ever existed and wouldn't consider being tortured slowly to death: bad? (without serious brain impairments) Your ideas about how people interact with each other could be subjective, but not the raw conscious experience...

You'd have to reason for an argument like that with a little bit more sense :) If I were near you I'd just slap your head into the keyboard so hard, and then ask the question again. (Try doing it yourself!) Also, before progressing along with your life, read this or something similar. And...

The base post is not just unscientific and ridiculous, but misleading too. Even the title is misleading. Try not to start science threads refering (impricisley) to fully evolved and proven scientific theories like they were some religious doxy. Your next will be like "Evolution believers -...

I wouldn't say there is no good. I believe the act of aborting someone's hopeless anguish is good. If you don't think likewise then please reason..

I think I mentioned other "stuff" in my toolkit other than rationalism.....:ahh04: Although, as you said, I don't give much damn about slaughtering pigs for their meat, or any other kind of livestock. But let's not talk about this anymore. edit: And describing Zeitgeist Movement's ideology as...

Those who call a human being under ANY condition "evil", don't understand the mind.

This is an easy question, God. (if there is, that kind) and this smiley: :twisteddevil:

/for me/ Well, not so sure if these could be called directions but whatever: - Getting familiar how rationalistic thinking and healthy communication works. - Building philosophy from the ground up for yourself, from "I think therefore I am", and the shadow of formal logic. (this was a looong...

Hahahhaa, lol, I have mistaken you with "The Void" too, sorry for what I've said earlier.

Not necessarily of "personalities". I'm acutely skeptical if these categories' of personalities still "work" when you are actually examining scientifically more literate and philosophically more active and flexible people, with some of influence of humanism.

In these abstract^2 fields we need deeper understanding of time and matter. Anyways, determinism will pull you to pieces. I imagine the army of universes positioned recursively, while somehow turning back into themselves. Although it's just some primitive scheme. I haven't been motivated so far...

Why I said what I said to Void was not based on mainly what he posted here, so please quit your sarcasm. Your aspect is rational but not relevant, I emphasize for the third time, try not to focus on the society of INTP's since I only proposed that in the beginning to stress out how flexible...

You explained ideality is a matter of perspective, I already knew that. What I'm talking about is the convergence of rational perspectives... how they merge and point out a wise ideal. Now you would say how irrelevant wisdom is from that kind of irrationalist and maybe even irrealist...

Crap has just arrived, there were minor crap so far. Don't mix your irrationalism with other rationalistic perspectives, consider it as an alternative worldview not as some kind of divine philosophy that has influence on everything else. I'm an INTP but I have very developed emotional...

Do you seriously think that's the main point?

Although don't be so sure about that, we know very very little about consciousness and what forms it can take in our universe, not to mention some another universe.

Everyone seems to focus on the subject of how humanity would look like if everyone was INTP suddenly.. Well, if everyone takes into account himself and multiples it by billions, then applies today's social structure, no wonder we'd get to mass suicides, collapse of the working layer and...

Yeah, it was an abstract model, but you should have gotten the target of query by it. Specifically the different attitudes towards social relations.

I don't see how you could come to that conclusion, since as an INFP or ENTP it would be quite hard technically to realize that - not sure about the ENTP though - . And if you can't realize that with that personality, that should imply its fallacy. Did you swap some letters in them like in the 2...