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10 minute big 5 with subscales

Hadoblado

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https://bigfive-test.com/

Take it, post your code here, and I'll collate a comparison between members for the forum and sticky it up here in the OP.

I like this one because it's accessible while also providing a lot more nuance with the subscales. Reliability won't be amazing, so take results more as a suggestion.

I expect forum communities include high degrees of neuroticism, middling extroversion, high intellectual openness, low self-discipline, and low self-efficacy.

Collated scores: Comparison
I'll try to keep the individual codes up to date, but updating the comparison is increasingly time-consuming as numbers grow so I'm gonna slow down on that.

Cog: 633fdc486aa59b00097bc90c
Hado: 6337ab709c3c8400092fe33b
Onestep 633ff3e96aa59b00097bca11
Higs 633b76eb37a0c800092742cb
Gopher: 633905341e6c57000911cddb
Endo: 634064bf056c6c000971c52d
Washti: 63406680056c6c000971c538
Ceg: 63407ee43a660800091cf433
birdnest: 6340be2a51b79f0009a15bc3
tomten: 633fa80c8a574f000907a920
All questions answered neutrally: 6340f32fe7e211000980629e
 

Hadoblado

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Updated.

Cog and I are basically identical in openness (bar art) and agreeableness.
 

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There you go.
 

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Cog and I are basically identical in openness (bar art) and agreeableness.
Not having checked your results I bet I scored higher in art but lower in agreeableness because I really want to have a spirited discussion with you about the importance of art.

(checks results)

Of course you're more liberal than me :rolleyes:

@Cegorach
Take the test I want to see how my misanthropy compares.

@onesteptwostep
Well aren't you sociable, trusting too, hey do you wanna buy an NFT?
 

Hadoblado

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Liberalism might not be what you think it is:
Psychological liberalism refers to a readiness to challenge authority, convention, and traditional values. In its most extreme form, psychological liberalism can even represent outright hostility toward rules, sympathy for law-breakers, and love of ambiguity, chaos, and disorder. Psychological conservatives prefer the security and stability brought by conformity to tradition. Psychological liberalism and conservatism are not identical to political affiliation, but certainly incline individuals toward certain political parties.

A right-wing libertarian would likely score very high on this, for instance.

Yeah I see most art as over-rated.

Edit: clinched you out on disagreeability nerd.
 

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Liberalism might not be what you think it is:
Psychological liberalism refers to a readiness to challenge authority, convention, and traditional values. In its most extreme form, psychological liberalism can even represent outright hostility toward rules, sympathy for law-breakers, and love of ambiguity, chaos, and disorder. Psychological conservatives prefer the security and stability brought by conformity to tradition. Psychological liberalism and conservatism are not identical to political affiliation, but certainly incline individuals toward certain political parties.
No that sounds about right.

I agree what most people call "art" is overrated, that is art for art's sake, rather I take a much broader view of art, for example go into your kitchen open a drawer and get a utensil, anything will do.

Any aspect of that utensil's design that isn't strictly functional or a consequence of designing for ease/efficiency of manufacture is art, it's not high concept art but that utensil was designed by somebody and that designer made a conscious effort to design that utensil to be as appealing as possible within the constraints of practicality.

When you see the artistry in a mere kitchen utensil then you can see that you're surrounded by art because you're surrounded by man-made things so art is very much a part of your life whether you're consciously aware of it or not. This art that surrounds you is an expression of you, your choices, your culture, your tastes, the compromises you've made and the things you sacrificed for. As this is the case for the individual so too is it true for society and art isn't just aesthetic it's also informative, educational even, just as neolithic children learned about past hunts and their tribe's culture from cave paintings so too modern children discover western civilization, its history and their place within it, largely through the entertainment media they consume.

Movies are art, videogames are art, scribbles on bathroom walls and dicks drawn in the back of notebooks are art, if there is anything that makes humans unique it's our relationship with art, we are the artistic animal. We don't just create art and experience it we live in it and through it, the way we dress and speak and act is performance art; salesmanship is an art, rhetoric is an art, cooking is an art, the act of living itself if done well is an art.
 

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No surprises
 

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@Cegorach
Take the test I want to see how my misanthropy compares.
Heh, sure.

63377849ecb0b800091e5bc5

This will lack context as I'm not always forthcoming in my interaction style, but perhaps it's not as wildly different as you may suppose.
Especially as I assume these scores could shift by one or two on any given day.

Though any misanthropy I may or may not hold is unlikely to do with the quality of society in general, as I feel little concern for an idealism beyond my existential realities.

*warms self on the amber glow of humanity aflame*

Cozy in here, isn't it?
 

Hadoblado

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Liberalism might not be what you think it is:
Psychological liberalism refers to a readiness to challenge authority, convention, and traditional values. In its most extreme form, psychological liberalism can even represent outright hostility toward rules, sympathy for law-breakers, and love of ambiguity, chaos, and disorder. Psychological conservatives prefer the security and stability brought by conformity to tradition. Psychological liberalism and conservatism are not identical to political affiliation, but certainly incline individuals toward certain political parties.
No that sounds about right.

I agree what most people call "art" is overrated, that is art for art's sake, rather I take a much broader view of art, for example go into your kitchen open a drawer and get a utensil, anything will do.

Any aspect of that utensil's design that isn't strictly functional or a consequence of designing for ease/efficiency of manufacture is art, it's not high concept art but that utensil was designed by somebody and that designer made a conscious effort to design that utensil to be as appealing as possible within the constraints of practicality.

When you see the artistry in a mere kitchen utensil then you can see that you're surrounded by art because you're surrounded by man-made things so art is very much a part of your life whether you're consciously aware of it or not. This art that surrounds you is an expression of you, your choices, your culture, your tastes, the compromises you've made and the things you sacrificed for. As this is the case for the individual so too is it true for society and art isn't just aesthetic it's also informative, educational even, just as neolithic children learned about past hunts and their tribe's culture from cave paintings so too modern children discover western civilization, its history and their place within it, largely through the entertainment media they consume.

Movies are art, videogames are art, scribbles on bathroom walls and dicks drawn in the back of notebooks are art, if there is anything that makes humans unique it's our relationship with art, we are the artistic animal. We don't just create art and experience it we live in it and through it, the way we dress and speak and act is performance art; salesmanship is an art, rhetoric is an art, cooking is an art, the act of living itself if done well is an art.

Right. I'm still probably a lot lower by that broader definition. I tend towards austere functionality. Most of my decorative pieces have sentimental value. A big part of this is being poor (don't feel the agency to buy things for aesthetics), but this has the very real consequence of limiting my development in that area.

I'm big on music, on cinema, and on books though.
 

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Anyway, I am highly assertive in business world, used to be assertive in relationships, but not so much anymore, don't feel like I understand that the same way anymore being in a different culture now than what I was raised in, I feel a bit lost.

High self efficacy and ability to figure things out, but that is because everything has to go to long term memory, millions of details before I feel proficient and then I'm fine. Its just I have to ask a lot of questions and work my way around to get to that point.
 

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I kinda wish they would have given the individual results with more than just "low, neutral, high" because neutral is literally only 12. I would think they would want to widen what is neutral and compartmentalize it evenly, but they don't.

But I think for the purposes of what Hado had in mind, this works quite well because it's just comparing.
 

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Liberalism might not be what you think it is:
Psychological liberalism refers to a readiness to challenge authority, convention, and traditional values. In its most extreme form, psychological liberalism can even represent outright hostility toward rules, sympathy for law-breakers, and love of ambiguity, chaos, and disorder. Psychological conservatives prefer the security and stability brought by conformity to tradition. Psychological liberalism and conservatism are not identical to political affiliation, but certainly incline individuals toward certain political parties.

A right-wing libertarian would likely score very high on this, for instance.

Yeah I see most art as over-rated.

Edit: clinched you out on disagreeability nerd.
Judging by that definition (at least by the first sentence) it seems right leaning libertarians should maybe tend to get high scores on liberalism. Yet I lean towards libertarianism and the right but got a 5 on liberalism. I figured the test will give you a low score on liberalism if you strongly side with conservative political parties over liberal ones. And so I tried the test again, this time choosing the neutral option on all the questions except the two about whether I side with conservative political parties or liberal ones - on which I said that I strongly side with conservatives. Still got a low score (an 8). I tried the test a third time, this time doing the same thing as the last time except this time I tried to max my score on liberalism instead of choosing the neutral options. Still got a low score though (a 10).

Interestingly, I did get a higher score when I was neutral on the questions not about political leanings than I did when I answered with my true preferences.
"In it's most extreme form, psychological liberalism can even represent outright hostility towards rules, sympathy for law breakers, and love of ambiguity, chaos, and disorder."
I'm on the opposite end of that: hate criminals (at least the ones I consider to be real criminals), very pro law and order (but want fewer laws), love math because of its lack of ambiguity. My experience with other right leaning libertarians is that they share my preferences. But this could be because I gravitate towards those who do.

Yet I don't feel at fully home with the description given for psychological conservatism either. I'm not fond of traditionalism. I'm very pro porn, prostitution, gaming, drugs, plastic surgery, etc.
 

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Voting for a liberal political party question answered at maximum value will increase only your liberal openness by 2.

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This implies that for each construct there are four questions that each will give or take up to two points (some will be reverse-scored). This is consistent with your second test where you adjusted your score by four points from two questions.

Fr liberal openness, we know:
Tend to vote for liberal political candidates
Tend to vote for conservative political candidates (r)
Others might include:
dislike changes (r)
Am attached to conventional ways (r)
believe there is no absolute right and wrong
break rules
believe that we should be tough on crime

I tried it out, and got 20 on liberalism, 10 dutifulness, and 16 adventurousness, but didn't track the exact answers on questions - but you can be sure that among these are the liberalism questions. I suspect that it's liberal q, conservative q (r), tough on crime, break rules.
 

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Voting for a liberal political party question answered at maximum value will increase only your liberal openness by 2.

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This implies that for each construct there are four questions that each will give or take up to two points (some will be reverse-scored). This is consistent with your second test where you adjusted your score by four points from two questions.

Fr liberal openness, we know:
Tend to vote for liberal political candidates
Tend to vote for conservative political candidates (r)
Others might include:
dislike changes (r)
Am attached to conventional ways (r)
believe there is no absolute right and wrong
break rules
believe that we should be tough on crime

I tried it out, and got 20 on liberalism, 10 dutifulness, and 16 adventurousness, but didn't track the exact answers on questions - but you can be sure that among these are the liberalism questions. I suspect that it's liberal q, conservative q (r), tough on crime, break rules.

Your analysis checks out. By implication I must have on my third test mistakenly provided a neutral answer to a question which affects one's score on liberalism.

My score was 12 (neutral) on liberalism when I answered in a maximally conservative way to the two questions about political party candidates and in a maximally liberal way to the others. 12+(-2-2+2+2)=12, so this is consistent with your analysis.

Anyway, so we know already that both the questions on political party candidates affect your score on liberalism. I did one last test and found that the other two questions that affect one's score on liberalism are the ones about absolute right or wrong and tough on crime. Max on tough on crime and absolute right or wrong each equal - 2 on liberalism.

Cool, so I now know what gave me a score of 5 on liberalism originally.
-2 tough on crime
-1 absolute standards
-2 voting for conservative party candidates
-2 voting for liberal party candidates
12+(-2-1-2-2)=5.
 

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Nice :)

Kinda surprising the rule-breaking wasn't in there given it explicitly suggests "outright hostility to rules" but I guess moral absolutism does make a lot of sense too.
 

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Great! Now do that for all the dynamics!

(I kid.)
 

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Seems like they're asking you about the same thing 4 times. Just different wording or asking about the opposite.

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Second highest activity level yet Im still 'low'. Cog at a exhausting neutral.

Besides that I have exceptionally low trust in people, and yet also max morality. Perhaps due to high self- efficacy? Go figures.
 
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