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Are you Arrogant?

Are you Arrogant?

  • Yes, (You believe that you are better then any other human alive today)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes, (You believe that you are in the top 50% of all humans either alive or dead)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, (you believe that you are in the bottom 50% of all humans alive today)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, (you believe that you are in the bottom 50% of all humans ever alive)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, (you believe that you are in the bottom 10% of all humans ever alive)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, (you believe that you are the worst person alive)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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Its a simple questions put I have give a range of responses.

Are you Arrogant?

Yes, (You believe that you are better than any other human alive or dead)

Yes, (You believe that you are better then any other human alive today)

Yes, (You believe that you are in the top 10% of all humans either alive or dead)

Yes, (You believe that you are in the top 10% of all humans alive today)

Yes, (You believe that you are in the top 50% of all humans either alive or dead)

Yes, (You believe that you are in the top 50% of humans alive today)

You believe all humans are equal (No one is better or worse than anyone else)

You believe that you are average (however you don't believe everyone is equal)

No, (you believe that you are in the bottom 50% of all humans alive today)

No, (you believe that you are in the bottom 50% of all humans ever alive)

No, (you believe that you are in the bottom 10% of all humans alive today)

No, (you believe that you are in the bottom 10% of all humans ever alive)

No, (you believe that you are the worst person alive)

No, (you believe that you are the worst person to ever live alive or dead)

If I where to be honest I mostly likely consider myself to be in the top 50% of people living today. I don't exactly like that I have a slight ego problem but I admit that it is there. Most of my bias is intellectual as I don't normally discredit due to race or gender.

I do realize that my ego is actually a bad thing however, the first thing you have to do to deal with a problem is realize that you have one.
 

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Pfft, this thread isn't worth the time of I, Duxwing, holder of the world championship belt for "Most Arrogant". Begone!

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Depends on how you define the category of "worse". I consider myself among them, but I can still be smug and rude occasionally. Mostly on forums, though. Real life gives better insight into personalities and the underlying clogs of their mind. Though if someone is rude to me, I'll reply in kind.

So, my attitude can be arrogant, yes.

Perhaps it's arrogant of me to consider myself among the 10% worst, as that category is filled with murderers and the likes.

Worse is just a human term for what we don't like O:
 

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You believe that you are average (however you don't not all everyone is equal)

I liked it better the way it was worded before the edit. This way is not grammatically correct.
 

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Depends on how you define the category of "worse". I consider myself among them, but I can still be smug and rude occasionally. Mostly on forums, though. Real life gives better insight into personalities and the underlying clogs of their mind. Though if someone is rude to me, I'll reply in kind.

So, my attitude can be arrogant, yes.

Perhaps it's arrogant of me to consider myself among the 10% worst, as that category is filled with murderers and the likes.

Worse is just a human term for what we don't like O:

You have 2 choices here

1) Use your best judgment on what the about means for you.

2) Don't participate.

Honestly worst and best are subjective terms I understood this when I wrote this post. However, I have came to the conclusion that on this forum will read what ever they want out of a post. Therefore, its much more interesting form me to try to understand their interpretation then to try and explain my interpretation.

Please be informed that the question is about arrogance.

I define arrogance as the belief that you are Superior or better then others.

If you don't believe that you are superior or better then others then either you believe that your are the same, your are average or you are worse then others. At least these are the options I presented you are welcome to come up with your own if you wish.
 

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You believe that you are average (however you don't not all everyone is equal)

I liked it better the way it was worded before the edit. This way is not grammatically correct.

Sorry for the typo. I was trying to fix it so that I would fit in the poll sorry.

Sorry I can't edit the poll or I would fix that too.
 

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I think arrogance is in the eye of the beholder, not self defined.

: exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner <an arrogant official>
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: showing an offensive attitude of superiority : proceeding from or characterized by arrogance

One might regard oneself as better than anyone else in the world, but without the full package, you're not "arrogant." Possibly deluded, but not arrogant.

Just splitting hairs. Beats splitting wood, which is the alternative I face right now.
 

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i try to act like everyone is equal and understand people's various points of view.

i would place myself in the upper 1 % or lower 1 %.
 

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You have 2 choices here

1) Use your best judgment on what the about means for you.

2) Don't participate.

Honestly worst and best are subjective terms I understood this when I wrote this post. However, I have came to the conclusion that on this forum will read what ever they want out of a post. Therefore, its much more interesting form me to try to understand their interpretation then to try and explain my interpretation.

I think you misinterpreted me. I wasn't pointing out any vagueness in your post per se. I was showing how I personally would have difficulty placing myself accurately, somewhat non-seriously thus this smiley O:
 

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I think you misinterpreted me. I wasn't pointing out any vagueness in your post per se. I was showing how I personally would have difficulty placing myself accurately, somewhat non-seriously thus this smiley O:


I think this would be common. It's a very hard thing to do. However, I do think it shows a level of self understanding to be able to admit that you are arrogant. Or in the inverse admit that you are knowingly a terrible person.

I like asking hard questions though.
 

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I have a lot of falling-outs with friends (one in particular) over my intellectual arrogance. It's just the way I am, though. I can't turn my analytical nature off, and my friend seems to think I should be able to.

I am also cocky and overconfident (not very INTP, I know), but many of the people I spend time with don't seem to be bothered by that.

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I have a lot of falling-outs with friends (one in particular) over my intellectual arrogance. It's just the way I am, though. I can't turn my analytical nature off, and my friend seems to think I should be able to.

I am also cocky and overconfident (not very INTP, I know), but many of the people I spend time with don't seem to be bothered by that.

SW


Honestly I wouldn't say that I am over confident in my ability to be right.

However, I do have a hard time respecting simple minded people even though I try very hard to treat them as equals. I fail at this on an almost daily bases.

I believe that I have a good understanding on my own abilities and failures however, I don't respect others that don't share my appreciation for intelligence. This is arragance even though for personal reason I tend to classify it differently.
 

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Of course I'm arrogant to an extent. I think most people are. Those that would say they're in the lower 50 percentile are probably going through a low self-esteem issue(s) at the time they say it.

I'm glad you put that last option in there as I don't know how to place myself. My ego is screaming at me to vote top 10% but I've come to realise that my ego is a fucking idiot.
 

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I chose worst because my arrogance is baaadd. I wouldn't say I am better than most.. Just that they are not as good as me :D.
 

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While socializing I think everyone is equal, while alone I think I'm better than everyone else or worse than everyone else...
 

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Of course I'm arrogant to an extent. I think most people are. Those that would say they're in the lower 50 percentile are probably going through a low self-esteem issue(s) at the time they say it.

I'm glad you put that last option in there as I don't know how to place myself. My ego is screaming at me to vote top 10% but I've come to realise that my ego is a fucking idiot.

Well, everyone can't be average or the top percentage.

*Takes her rightful place at the uttermost bottom*
 

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While socializing I think everyone is equal, while alone I think I'm better than everyone else or worse than everyone else...

When socialising
If i'm sober or drunk - everyone's equal
If i'm sober and you're drunk - You're an idiot
If i'm high - You're probably an idiot, but you might be really nice and funny. [Fairly objective measurement, I'd say.]

When alone -
If i'm sober - You're an idiot
If i'm drunk - I'm an idiot
If I'm high - I generally like people, as long as i remain alone ;D
 

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I am arrogant, but that has more to do with my dismissive tendencies than any egoistic measurement of 'betterness.' The universe has no inherent meaning and humans are very flawed and weak creatures. Being the 'best' human is like being the king of shit mountain.

The mere fact that you and I are alive in the precise state we are today is a mind-boggling from a statistical perspective. The never-lived vastly outnumber the living and dead. Are we better than 99.99999% simply because we're lucky?

'Better' doesn't even mean anything. Better at what? Would a different person be better in your circumstances? It all seems very irrelevant and circular to me. At it's heart it's very irrational as well.

I am arrogant, but I don't spend a lot of time thinking I'm better or worse than other people. There's no way to meaningfully measure that. I do tend to assume most people are stupid and short sighted, but I also assume I'm too stupid and short-sighted accurately gauge my own stupidity and short-sightedness.



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I have confident opinions that would offend many, if not most people. I have rejected the wisdom of the majority. I trust myself and my own judgement more than I trust others or institutions. By those facts alone I must be arrogant.
 

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I believe I am arrogant (but can laugh at myself). Oddly, despite believing I am myself no one else has ever told me they think so. Stoopids! :D
 

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Honestly I wouldn't say that I am over confident in my ability to be right.

That depends on how often you're right. I'm very often right (this is how it is, not my cockiness), and I often point that out to people. However, I am, on occasion, wrong. This does not help my ego at all, and that is where my reputation for being arrogant comes from

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Well, everyone can't be average or the top percentage.

*Takes her rightful place at the uttermost bottom*

Well no, not everyone can be average or above but somewhere deep down I believe most people would think they are in the above whether they are or not. It's self perception that we're doing here. I also believe most people go through periods from time to time when they are down on themselves and think they must be bottom feeders or something but they also go through periods when they think it is everyone else that are dolts.

If it is others judging, well you'd be high up there in the above. That's obvious to others if not yourself. But we aren't judging each other. Nope, we're not gonna go there.
 

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I have average Joe syndrom.

Are we measuring intellegence here or just overal self worth comparing yourself to others?
 

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i have often been called arrogant because i feel that an analytical concept of my liking is a better way of approaching an issue, compared to someone's mostly descriptive approach to labeling his experience. for instance they think their state (ie panic attacks) is induced by medicine, like it's just an objective phenomenon they have to endure, essentially suggesting that they couldn't do something about it, and i suggest, that it's a challenge for introspection and spiritual development, an opportunity into seeing what it is, to be a consciousness and becoming more comfortable with the essential qualities of that. or to put it more simply, i like speculations that would lead to more experiments, if taken seriously, they like locking things away into dramatic stories of what has happened to them and somehow that is deeply arrogant of me. or even more simply: i think that self confidence is about trusting in my whims. it's kind of a conflict between understanding something and attempting to manipulate versus what they call 'empathy' = sitting through the experience of misery without attempting to change it. i'm not saying my approach is the better one, i think the jury is out, and it's murdering a baby and drinking it's blood right now, so this could take a while ...
 

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Totally depends on the day and goes from; "I'm an Idiot" to "Everyone but me is an Idiot". Sometimes both at the same time.
 

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Anyone care to elaborate on the difference between being stubborn and being arrogant?

stub·born

adjective \ˈstə-bərn\

Definition of STUBBORN

1
a (1): unreasonably or perversely unyielding : mulish (2): justifiably unyielding : resolute
b: suggestive or typical of a strong stubborn nature <a stubborn jaw>

2
: performed or carried on in an unyielding, obstinate, or persistent manner <stubborn effort>

3
: difficult to handle, manage, or treat <a stubborn cold>

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: lasting <stubborn facts>


ar·ro·gant

adjective \ˈer-ə-gənt, ˈa-rə-\

Definition of ARROGANT

1
: exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner <an arrogant official>

2
: showing an offensive attitude of superiority : proceeding from or characterized by arrogance <an arrogant reply>

[Edit] I guess I might as well share my thought in the proccess.

I could be talking to the wrong crowd but I think many people tie these 2 together in an attemt to simplify their meanings. Where one generally has to do with a humans will and also how accepting they are to change, the other often exudes an aura of self inflated confidence.

Stubborn people often don't accept anything new that can be useful and prefer things to remain the same. They often love routine and traditions.

Arrogant people hate it when when they are corrected whether the correction was needed or not. They typically don't like being told what to do.

When these 2 are both present in an individual it often makes them a horrible communicator on the recieving end of information because not only does it prevent them from realizing that they could be wrong, but it also takes away any ability to see a different side of things.
 

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Yes, top 10%. Is my choice a good enough reason for you to think that I believe myself to be arrogant?
I have a neutral outward experience. That is to say that I can be humble and arrogant at times. It changes based on the audience. The reason I didn't pick we're all equal is... every time I try to think I'm no better than anyone else, someone has to fuck something up to remind me I'm generally smarter than everyone.
 

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I am arrogant at times, but it's almost as if I go through arrogant phases just to change shit up.

I am in the top 10% for a number of things I find important, though not everything.
 

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Sorry for the typo. I was trying to fix it so that I would fit in the poll sorry.

Sorry I can't edit the poll or I would fix that too.

Fixed.
 

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This poll is stupid -- well, aside from all the jokes we can derive from it.
 

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This poll is stupid -- well, aside from all the jokes we can derive from it.

Well its a poll therefore it is completely lacking any form or intelligence or stupidity. These are only terms that can be related effectively to signet beings.

If you don't like the poll that cool. I just was wondering how people would rate themselves. You don't have to participate.

I don't really know why people on this forum believe that everything should revolve around there preferences. If you don't like something then ignore it.

If your to arrogant to let something go then that speaks for its self as well.

No, offense I am arrogant as well.
 

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Well its a poll therefore it is completely lacking any form or intelligence or stupidity. These are only terms that can be related effectively to signet beings.

If you don't like the poll that cool. I just was wondering how people would rate themselves. You don't have to participate.

I don't really know why people on this forum believe that everything should revolve around there preferences. If you don't like something then ignore it.

If your to arrogant to let something go then that speaks for its self as well.

No, offense I am arrogant as well.

Dude... it was just my opinion. I don't need a long rambly explanation, or you informing me to "ignore" it, I'm perfectly free to post my opinion and then move on. Likewise, just read my opinion, and then move on as well or else ask me why I thought it was stupid, if you care enough to respond.
 

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Dude... it was just my opinion. I don't need a long rambly explanation, or you informing me to "ignore" it, I'm perfectly free to post my opinion and then move on. Likewise, just read my opinion, and then move on as well or else ask me why I thought it was stupid, if you care enough to respond.

I just like poking the beast. If you wish to share your opinion please do enlighten me.

I could ignore you but I like poking at people so it is just not in me. I don't actually care that you think it stupid or not. It's a simple poll not a life goal or anything.
 

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of course a poll can be stupid the way any action or thought can be stupid
 

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There are quite a few people I consider to be arrogant at times that will say otherwise. Likewise, I may have some arrogant traits that I have overlooked.

I'm not sure if you are supposed to self-proclaim arrogance as it is often masked as self-confidence.
 

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There are quite a few people I consider to be arrogant at times that will say otherwise. Likewise, I may have some arrogant traits that I have overlooked.

I'm not sure if you are supposed to self-proclaim arrogance as it is often masked as self-confidence.

Who to say what we are suppose to do. :)
 

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Who to say what we are suppose to do. :)

It just seems like an odd thing to do, just like self-proclaiming to be a genius.

Arrogance and genius are traits that are given to a person from a third party.
 

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You have to be really arrogant to believe that you are the worst person ever, alive or dead.
 

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You have to be really arrogant to believe that you are the worst person ever, alive or dead.

Yup, I am. Hence the reason I chose that option. I am even worse the minuend.

If given the chance I would destroy humans. As I don't find us, as a race, worthy of living. Arrogant much?
 

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You have to be really arrogant to believe that you are the worst person ever, alive or dead.

Technically, believing that you are the worst person ever isn't the same as believe it good for you to be a bad person.

If you believe that everyone one else is unworthy to live and you are worthy to destroy them this would be putting yourself before them I.E. you think you are better then the any other in the world.

Believing you are the worst person in the world would amount to a suicidal with zero self worth.
 

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Technically, believing that you are the worst person ever isn't the same as believe it good for you to be a bad person.

If you believe that everyone one else is unworthy to live and you are worthy to destroy them this would be putting yourself before them I.E. you think you are better then the any other in the world.

Believing you are the worst person in the world would amount to a suicidal with zero self worth.

I don't think I am overly better than everyone else. I do think many are unworthy of living. I do not see how thinking oneself is worse than everyone else amounts to being a suicidal with zero self worth. Tis obvious we have differing views.

My view:

I chose worse because my arrogance puts me there. The reason being, that I would kill off all humans if given the chance. The action is the reason I chose worst. And the belief it would be fine to do so and that I am worthy to judge everyone else. Who would judge me for it once the deed was done? No one because they, you, we, would all be dead.

And I do not think it is good to be bad. The action itself would be bad for humans but possibly good for the planet. Though that is not the reason why I would go through with it.
 

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I don't think I am overly better than everyone else. I do think many are unworthy of living. I do not see how thinking oneself is worse than everyone else amounts to being a suicidal with zero self worth. Tis obvious we have differing views.

My view:

I chose worse because my arrogance puts me there. The reason being, that I would kill off all humans if given the chance. The action is the reason I chose worst. And the belief it would be fine to do so and that I am worthy to judge everyone else. Who would judge me for it once the deed was done? No one because they, you, we, would all be dead.

And I do not think it is good to be bad. The action itself would be bad for humans but possibly good for the planet. Though that is not the reason why I would go through with it.

Better or worse in this context apply to self worth. Do you believe your existence is worth more then others. That is what arrogance is after all. You can't be both arrogant and believe that you are worse or worth less then others. That would be a contradiction to the context of the poll.

You may wish to define you arrogance as making you a worse person however, this only means you believe your a better then everyone else or at least you have the right to judge everyone else and because you believe this other people believe you to be a bad person.

The context of this poll is in the first person not the third person. Ware do you believe that you rank with the worthiness of all people.

You are taking something simple and changing the context to try to argue both sides at once. I assume you are doing this on purpose. Otherwise you do not to well at comprehending realistically speaking simple ideas.
 

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Better or worse in this context apply to self worth. Do you believe your existence is worth more then others. That is what arrogance is after all. You can't be both arrogant and believe that you are worse or worth less then others. That would be a contradiction to the context of the poll.

You may wish to define you arrogance as making you a worse person however, this only means you believe your a better then everyone else or at least you have the right to judge everyone else and because you believe this other people believe you to be a bad person.

The context of this poll is in the first person not the third person. Ware do you believe that you rank with the worthiness of all people.

You are taking something simple and changing the context to try to argue both sides at once. I assume you are doing this on purpose. Otherwise you do not to well at comprehending realistically speaking simple ideas.


Nope. You caught me. Out of context. I suppose I am meaning, in that case, that I believe myself better than others. I judge myself worthy to make such a decision.
 

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Yup, I am. Hence the reason I chose that option. I am even worse the minuend.

If given the chance I would destroy humans. As I don't find us, as a race, worthy of living. Arrogant much?

D ::: ::: :

Infidel!

*Flaps fists around*

I'll show you!

*Makes a ceiling fan-like motion with her arms*
 

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D ::: ::: :

Infidel!

*Flaps fists around*

I'll show you!

*Makes a ceiling fan-like motion with her arms*

Radical!

*Closes eyes and starts slapping the air in front of him*

Nah ah, for it will be I to show you something!

*Pants full down to ankles*

:eek: Not what I meant!!
 

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It would be nice to see the polls results be public. I want to know who and how people voted.
 

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It would be nice to see the polls results be public. I want to know who and how people voted.

Yes, I marked them as public but I am not sure how you view them.
 
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