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In other recent news, (which I can't be bothered to link to), there is a young adult woman in the UK proclaiming she's a cat trapped in a human body - and she demands everybody treat her as a cat (no doubt in life she'll have surgery to 'become one' - as has happened else where around the globe);

In a few years no need for surgery.
The matrix has you Neo.

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Finally Jennywocky! I thought I was going to have to change sides myself. :facepalm:

I literally handed the perfect counter argument in my first "real" post and nobody used it! Nobody knows how to properly argue a position anymore it's sad. I'm gonna go be sad for half an hour.

That said I still wanna be a dragon. :D
 

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Finally Jennywocky! I thought I was going to have to change sides myself. :facepalm:

I literally handed the perfect counter argument in my first "real" post and nobody used it! Nobody knows how to properly argue a position anymore it's sad. I'm gonna go be sad for half an hour.

That said I still wanna be a dragon. :D

Didn't i argue the same only in less detail?
 

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Didn't i argue the same only in less detail?

Kinda, but I was so far into acting I wouldn't recognize what you said without a dictionary.

It's different saying my bet is on it's physical related and saying it's physical related and here's why with studies and cases and reasoning. See to win an argument you can't just say what's true you have to say it well. If that requires detail then detail is what's needed.
 

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You can disengage. Abort. Have a tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

My favourite. Gotta love that EG.

EG is what cool people call it, right?
 

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Kinda, but I was so far into acting I wouldn't recognize what you said without a dictionary.

It's different saying my bet is on it's physical related and saying it's physical related and here's why with studies and cases and reasoning. See to win an argument you can't just say what's true you have to say it well. If that requires detail then detail is what's needed.

Well, if that's what proper argument means to you then who am i to object. The confusion has been eased.

I'd characterize Jennywocky's post a thorough dissertation although that might be little more than a testament to my own laziness. To me, mentioning the relevant explanatory points and their structure suffices as a proper argument.

Also, there seemed to be nothing to win at all. You were amicable and receptive. Is this one of your little traps again?
 

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That said I still wanna be a dragon. :D

... now I wanna be a dragon too.

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Also, there seemed to be nothing to win at all. You were amicable and receptive. Is this one of your little traps again?

No just practicing being amicable receptive with different points of view. It's easy to be extreme and stereotypical it's harder to be reasonable while using a view that's different. Also I've kinda pidgin holed myself into being reasonable anyway.

YEAH JENNY THAT'S YOU AND ME. (To be fair I kinda like the little guy)
 

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Some shit shouldn't just be allowed to pass without reproach. That being said disengage is what I'm gonna do now.
Of course as long as it's in a way that doesn't cause the other party to produce even more shit in response.

The goal is to have less shit, not more, by the end of the conversation amrite?
 

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Of course as long as it's in a way that doesn't cause the other party to produce even more shit in response.

The goal is to have less shit, not more, by the end of the conversation amrite?

Nope not necessarily by the end of the conversation, in the end, however. I don't believe hateful ignorance towards people should just be allowed to pass without some form of reproach. Jennywocky did a great job explaining why Sinny had no clue. But it's not okay to jump to conclusions the way she did just because you happen to be ignorant about the subject. That shit was some good ol' nasty primal hatred.
 

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Nope not necessarily by the end of the conversation, in the end, however.
Not necessarily by the end, in the end, to that end I'd wish you phrased that correctly so that I can understand this sentence, however therefore thank you in advance, nonetheless.
 

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Not necessarily by the end, in the end, to that end I'd wish you phrased that correctly so that I can understand this sentence, however therefore thank you in advance, nonetheless.

Well sorry I was trying to say that there more shit in the here and now is better if it means less shit further on. That's why I said not necessarily by the end of the conversation but in the end however. In you're parafrase of my post you've omitted stuff. I contrasted by the end of the conversation with in the end. I didn't contrast the end with the end. I don't think your inability to comprehend what I wrote has much to do with my shity interpunctuation, all I did was use one too many commas. Given the context I don't see how that renders the sentence incomprehensible. I think it's more to do with you being sensitive when it comes to grammar.
 

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I think ultimately the goal is to hoard shit for ones entire life and then shit all only once at the moment of death. That would be a purer kind of organism. Maybe convergence of shit filth and death horror is the true measure of transhumanism.
 

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Maybe the natural course of a life is to turn into shit more and more until you are pure shit and that's when you die.
 

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I think ultimately the goal is to hoard shit for ones entire life and then shit all only once at the moment of death. That would be a purer kind of organism. Maybe convergence of shit filth and death horror is the true measure of transhumanism.


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... anyway, that could be rather grotesque. You see a shit explosion down the street. "Oh. That was Mr. Johnson shoveling his drive. he must have had a heart attack. His wife is gonna shit." *sees another explosion* "yeah, there she went."

Nope not necessarily by the end of the conversation, in the end, however. I don't believe hateful ignorance towards people should just be allowed to pass without some form of reproach. Jennywocky did a great job explaining why Sinny had no clue. But it's not okay to jump to conclusions the way she did just because you happen to be ignorant about the subject. That shit was some good ol' nasty primal hatred.

Make her wear the ESFJ hat!!!! Yesssssss.......

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Nope not necessarily by the end of the conversation, in the end, however. I don't believe hateful ignorance towards people should just be allowed to pass without some form of reproach. Jennywocky did a great job explaining why Sinny had no clue. But it's not okay to jump to conclusions the way she did just because you happen to be ignorant about the subject. That shit was some good ol' nasty primal hatred.

I think you're an overly sensitive - . We're on a discussion forum.
If everybody was limited to only talking about what they knew everything about - we wouldn't have much discussion. I'm entitled to my opinion - and you're entitled to over react like a little bitch - you fucking bigot xD
 

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Well sorry I was trying to say that there more shit in the here and now is better if it means less shit further on. That's why I said not necessarily by the end of the conversation but in the end however. In you're parafrase of my post you've omitted stuff. I contrasted by the end of the conversation with in the end. I didn't contrast the end with the end. I don't think your inability to comprehend what I wrote has much to do with my shity interpunctuation, all I did was use one too many commas. Given the context I don't see how that renders the sentence incomprehensible. I think it's more to do with you being sensitive when it comes to grammar.
No, I don't think it's a natural grammatical structure to follow in the end by however, it plays with my brain in such a way that I found it difficult to contextualise.

I don't care about the grammar in general, as long as the other person creates comprehensible sentences, that one wasn't in my opinion, I wasn't sure what it was supposed to mean.

I find it strange that instead of helping me understand, you go into attacking me as grammar sensitive.

Language follows consistent rules and they exist so that we can more effectively exchange information. It's kind of aggressive claim to imply I'd care about structure for no reason.

I don't think we need to engage with this inane talk about shit so I'll simplify.

Shit=low quality.

At any point in time during a conversation it is constructive to phrase your responses in such a way as to improve or maintain the quality of the dialogue and invite high quality in return. Would you agree with this? It seems you are saying the same thing, but somehow what you say can be interpreted to mean that you'd allow low quality replies just to stomp on inaccuracies and reproach for reproaching's sake rather than for the bilateral success of the argument in general.
 

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There is nothing wrong with trans-humanism but there is something wrong with transhuman-ism. What we reject about ourselves is do to emotional dis-regulation. The biological imperative is survival but once that is met we ask "why" questions. The demarcation is; do you wish to exist and how would you like to exist. I wish to remain human. I wish to increase the power of my mind. I do not wish to be disembodied nor do I wish to become a cyborg. I find that my body made of proteins is aesthetically wondrous. All I wish is to have better proteins so I can experience the fluidity and grace of soft skin and the energy within me. It would be the epitome of the Buddhist life. The total integration of the karma I share with others. I might even visit mars one day. I would be able to control how I feel and what I should feel. It will be fun to learn what I currently am incapable of learning and to visit alternate realities. Eventually people will begin to know their whole self. And there will be no need to quarrel. Immortality eases the burden to react to every instance of insult or perceived insult. A collective understanding of who we have been and the compassion toward everyone we encounter. Peace be with you. :angel:
 

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No, I don't think it's a natural grammatical structure to follow in the end by however, it plays with my brain in such a way that I found it difficult to contextualise.

I don't care about the grammar in general, as long as the other person creates comprehensible sentences, that one wasn't in my opinion, I wasn't sure what it was supposed to mean.

I find it strange that instead of helping me understand, you go into attacking me as grammar sensitive.

Language follows consistent rules and they exist so that we can more effectively exchange information. It's kind of aggressive claim to imply I'd care about structure for no reason.

I don't think we need to engage with this inane talk about shit so I'll simplify.

Shit=low quality.

At any point in time during a conversation it is constructive to phrase your responses in such a way as to improve or maintain the quality of the dialogue and invite high quality in return. Would you agree with this? It seems you are saying the same thing, but somehow what you say can be interpreted to mean that you'd allow low quality replies just to stomp on inaccuracies and reproach for reproaching's sake rather than for the bilateral success of the argument in general.

What do you mean instead of helping you understand? First thing I did was just that. I think you read the post saw the retarded interpunctuation, got temporarily irritated and confused whereafter you decided it was incomprehensible when in fact it wasn't really, it was just poorly written. You also did a little parody on my writing which does kind of strongly suggest that you are grammar sensitive. I did not imply that you care about structure for no reason.

Reproaches shouldn't be made for the sake of reproaching. In this case I think the vitriol in post 12# needs a reproach because that kind of stuff isn't okay for a number of reasons which I'm sure you can also grasp given that it was basically the equivalent of "fuck dem niggers". It wouldn't need a reproach if its author was capable of realizing how bad it was on her own.


Sinny: Why are you so concerned with other people reacting to you writing retarded crap? You should be more concerned with not writing retarded crap. You don't need to know everything about the stuff you want to discuss either. The problem with post 12# isn't that you lack knowledge, it's that you assume knowledge.
 

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@Brontosaurie

There is nothing wrong with trans-humanism but there is something wrong with transhuman-ism. What we reject about ourselves is do to emotional dis-regulation. The biological imperative is survival but once that is met we ask "why" questions. The demarcation is do you wish to exist and how would you like to exist. I wish to remain human. I wish to increase the power of my mind. I do not wish to be disembodied not do I wish to become a cyborg. I find that my body made of proteins aesthetically wondrous. All I wish is to have better proteins so I can experience the fluidity and grace of soft skin and the energy within me. It would be the epitome of the Buddhist life. The total integration of the karma I share with others. I might even visit mars one day. I would be able to control how I feel and what I should feel. It will be fun to learn what I currently am incapable of learning and to visit alternate realities. Eventually people will begin to know their whole self. And there will be no need quarrel. Immortality eases the burden to react to every instance of insult or perceived insult. A collective understanding of who we have been and the compassion toward everyone we encounter. Peace be with you. :angel:

As usual i struggle to come up with a reply or extract a central theme but it was beautiful and worthwhile metaprogramming material :D
 

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In this case I think the vitriol in post 12# needs a reproach because that kind of stuff isn't okay for a number of reasons which I'm sure you can also grasp given that it was basically the equivalent of "fuck dem niggers". It wouldn't need a reproach if its author was capable of realizing how bad it was on her own.


Sinny: Why are you so concerned with other people reacting to you writing retarded crap? You should be more concerned with not writing retarded crap. You don't need to know everything about the stuff you want to discuss either. The problem with post 12# isn't that you lack knowledge, it's that you assume knowledge.

Forgive me for not holding myself to the standards which you seek to impose on me. I don't conform with little bitches.



Post 12

I'm not conformatable with all these new gender labels being thrown around these days.

A school in Portsmouth (UK) recently gave 13 year old children a questionnaire to complete and gave them 24 options out of which to select their 'gender preference'.

That could have been minimised to

Do you have (please circle): PENIS/VAGINA

Who the fuck needs to know anything more than that?

Times are changing, and I personally dont like them. By the time I have kids, one of them will come home from school and declare to me that they want a gender change from female to male, so they can be a gay male and have a test tube baby... Oh and their new names.. Ronaldo!

Like crikey man - some people are born missing arms and legs and you want boo-hoo and piss and moan onabout that God/Nature/The Universe entrusted on you the 'wrong' FULL BODY PARTS :rolleyes:

I was raised with the notion 'you get what you're given, like it or lump it'.

I'm all for gay rights - But I don't believe in messing with nature [on a fundamental level], sacred shit's encoded in us. I personally believe that transgenders and the such are obviously more interested in their own gratification, than anything else on the planet.

Being a woman can suck. Having periods sucks. Having to squat to pee sucks. I imagine giving birth sucks. The social standards women are held by suck. Being expected to like dresses and flowers sucks. Being a man would make my life easier - but guess what, there's more important things to do in life than waste surgeons time sewing a penis onto me for my own gratification.

(from my POV anyway - and I apologise in advance for the hurt feelings of any transgenders reading - The Universe loves you, and it just wishes that you loved yourself as you were born too :) )

If that did actually happen with any child of mine.. I'm unsure how I would react, or if my views would change. I really really don't think that I'd be able to comfortably adjust. I'd try - but it would deffo be awks.

Not 'might be', it is my problem, transgenders obviously do not have the same moral problem as me.

I doubt this counts as bullying. I'm sharing my opinion. If others don't like it - then that's their problem.

No, I don't presume to understand. But I can muse.

I really don't think I fit the description of a bigot.

Baby raping and slavery are both action orientated. What action did I call for?
For transgendered people to learn to love them selves? aha.


Well I wasn't addressing this imagined 'them', I was addressing the imagined members of INTPf.

If somebody came to me and said that to me, I'd take them seriously too, I maybe wouldn't believe them, but I'd take them seriously - because they believe it.

How 'imposing' can a forum post be?

I said I think they do it for gratification, in which language does that resemble 'making it all up'

Lul. INTP thought police ?

My opinions aren't set in stone. They are subject to change

You can't argue with somebody who doesn't want to argue.


Cool, my brain is a sponge I'm here to learn.

I don't think I really accused any one of anything in particluar..
I shared my opinions, leading with; 'I think' - all very me orientated.

I'm not satisfied with my use of the word gratification, nor I have fully formed my concept

I suppose it all come's down to where we individually 'draw the line'..

I suppose if I had to stick to a hypothesis, I'd stick with the mental illness one. But, there are transgenders out there who proclaim they are mentally fit, and to be labelled mentally unfit is incorrect and offensive - so what's the explanation in that case? It's at that point I start entertaining my half formed 'gratification' theory.

I don't think there should have been a 'gender preference' option.
I think it should be limited to 'gender' , as in medically.

As far as I know, thats Male/Female/That mixed one in the middle - and whatever other criteria are in the biological medical journals

I don't like the idea of the state sponsoring education and ultimately propaganda on unorthodox man made biological gender ideologies- (or whatever) .. As I say, apart from the fact that I don't fully understand it, which does incite fear and distrust even if only on an unconcious level, it does also go against a fundamental belief or notion which I currently do hold ... I hope we do make breakthroughs in our understandings of these issue's in the future, and hopefully my dissonance will be appeased.

Vitriol: Bitterly abusive feeling or expression

No bitterness or abuse was intended on my end,
(or even demonstrated as far as I can see). It's all been perceived on your end. You could have just told me calmly why you thought my assumptions were incorrect without making your own assumptions and involving your own hurt feelings; which aren't my concern, like it or lump it.

See when you start becoming a bigot, you cause more damage to your own cause - I could have gone on in life not having any of those aforementioned notions or beliefs challenged, why? Cuz little bitches like you would prefer I kept them to myself. When in actual fact, it's a been a useful learning curve and an educational endeavor [for me].
I have even stated openly and cleary my intent is not malicious - and yet you must consider me a liar, because you persist in projecting such motivations on me.

Why I'm concerned in telling you this, is so that you might learn something in return.

As for if I considered if there would be any transgeneders reading on the forum, yea I did, and there's an apology in advance for my offending opinion embedded in post 12 (which I'm not obligated to extend, but I did)

You would do well to open your eye's, and stop jumping to your own 'reactionary, knee-jerk' conclusions.

I feel as though I could fill a full time job here, in pulling out the dictionary.


 

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Forgive me for not holding myself to the standards which you seek to impose on me. I don't conform with little bitches.

It's all been perceived on your end. You could have just told me calmly why you thought my assumptions were incorrect without making your own assumptions and involving your own hurt feelings; which aren't my concern, like it or lump it.

Putting an "I think" in front of "these people which I dont know anything about fucking suck, fuck them" doesn't make it so that it wasn't vitriol and it doesn't make it less retarded. And your tone was intentional, come on who do you think you are kidding except yourself? And you didn't need to write a hateful post in order to have your beliefs challenged either, that's some weird dichotomy you've set up.

I never involved my own feelings in this either, you assumed my feelings were hurt and involved them as a defense mechanism, in order that you may call me a little bitch in order to avoid cognitive dissonance.

Slither on.
 

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Putting an "I think" in front of "these people which I dont know anything about fucking suck, fuck them" doesn't make it so that it wasn't vitriol and it doesn't make it less retarded.

You're the fucking retard here. Filling in all the blanks with projections;
Likening my thoughts to racism and the such. I didn't say' they suck' and I didn't say 'fuck them' .. This is you making me out to be what you need me to be in order to put across your useless point. (Deja Vu?)

Anyway, I'm done here - better things to do than spar with little bitches.
 

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inb4 close. :rip:

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You're the fucking retard here. Filling in all the blanks with projections;
Likening my thoughts to racism and the such. I didn't say' they suck' and I didn't say 'fuck them' .. This is you making me out to be what you need me to be in order to put across your useless point. (Deja Vu?)

Anyway, I'm done here - better things to do than spar with little bitches.

You didn't, you went into much greater detail. It's not a case of filling in blanks either. It's just summarizing. Filling in and projecting.. those words are better suited for describing the way you make this out to be about me instead of owning up to the fact that if this was a little while back you'd have written the same stuff about homosexual people, that yours is just a more modern form of bigotry. Everyone knows homosexual people are just people nowadays, but when it comes to people that are trans there's still an arena for bigotry which you were happy to jump into.
 

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I think you read the post saw the retarded interpunctuation, got temporarily irritated and confused whereafter you decided it was incomprehensible when in fact it wasn't really, it was just poorly written. You also did a little parody on my writing which does kind of strongly suggest that you are grammar sensitive.
I parodied your style because it was incomprehensible. It was your fault for failing to communicate and I thank you for clarification.

In this case parody showed what was wrong with the original.
 

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You didn't, you went into much greater detail. It's not a case of filling in blanks either. It's just summarizing.

Summarising like Fox News haha.

I've already said my that my thoughts aren't intended to be malicious. Why is this clarification not good enough for you?

Do I need swear an oath of honesty in blood?

For blood is the life :cthulhu:
 

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I parodied your style because it was incomprehensible. It was your fault for failing to communicate and I thank you for clarification.

Any following insinuations about my grammar sensitivity are disrespectful and strange.

Okay, sorry.

@Sinny: You were being malicious. Does it really matter than you didn't intend to be? If I write that I think homosexual people are mentally insane and waste other people's time and resources it wouldn't really matter if I intended for it to be malicious or not. Not that I can grasp how one could write such a thing and still claim there was no malicious intent.
 

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Well I completely disagree with you, and am bored of explaining myself to you.
Lets agree to disagree.
 

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Hey, CC let me get back into character. :D

Look it's pointless talking to you! How dare you say you understand!
How dare you say you defend others when you have no understanding or compassion for your fellow man?
You berate those you don't understand for not understanding!
It's easy to understand those that agree with you, to understand those that you relate to.
It's hard to understand why people become serial murders. To understand why bigots grow to hate and condone others.
To understand those in jail or the ones that bullied you.
It's sad, no not sad it makes me angry!
So much hate is born out of ignorance. Do you think terrorists understand us? Do we understand them?

No! We don't, we don't care about them. They're too far out of our own social bubble.
Oh something happened in the western world, that's socially sad I should talk about how sad that is.
Oh something happened in my country that's awful truly awful...
Something happened in my city?.. Something happens to my family?
How could they! How could anyone do that? That's an attack on me! That's an attack on my group!
I hate them! I hate those people I've never met.
I hate that 17 year old kid that was tortured, homeless, abused that I know nothing about.
How could he do that to those nice lovely people!
How dare his life result in different opinions and actions to mine!

Do I condone people being stuck in their bubble?
No! It's the single most understandable human trait in the world.
We all have it.
I can't even hate you for this, do you know how frustrating that is?
I literally do not care about anyone more than one step outside my social world.
I only have apathetic understanding.
The only one left to hate is myself, I can only be angry at myself.
Why can't I choose to hate others?
Why is the only one I know well enough to hate myself?
I wish I could not understand.
To not realize what I don't understand.
I wish I could be you but I can't be.
That's makes me angry.

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Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
 

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Well I completely disagree with you, and am bored of explaining myself to you.
Lets agree to disagree.

It is not a matter of opinion. You are wrong and have been making zero sense ever since you tried to defend yourself. There is nothing you can explain. You wrote some nasty crap and the tragic thing is despite being shown how crappy it was in a very nice and informative way you can't admit it, not even to yourself. When you saw Jennywocky's post your reaction should've been "wtf what was I doing, how could I? that was really unworthy of me" instead your reaction is to escape responsibility. If you hadn't had the luck of running into someone who bothered to do your research for you, you would still be the same bigot. Doesn't that bother you? That it was all up to chance? That you getting wiser had jack shit with you to do. It should. You just lack character. Otherwise you wouldn't try to garner attention by writing sensationalist posts without any regard for the people around you.

@Gopher: I feel like your post was probably very funny and I should appreciate it but I didn't understand anything. I read it thrice now and it just ain't dawning lol. I assure you I feel bad about this.
 

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Maybe she was thinking "maybe this is offensive and nasty" but decided to post anyway

What to make of that???
 

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@Gopher: I feel like your post was probably very funny and I should appreciate it but I didn't understand anything. I read it thrice now and it just ain't dawning lol. I assure you I feel bad about this.
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Sinny91 said:
If you hadn't had the luck of running into someone who bothered to do your research for you, you would still be the same bigot. Doesn't that bother you? That it was all up to chance? That you getting wiser had jack shit with you to do. It should.

Cherry Cola might be a little bitch but it's undeniable that Sinny's often in this loop he described and degrading the quality of discussion on this forum. This paradigm warrants argument, despite him presenting it crassly.
 

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@Gopher: I feel like your post was probably very funny and I should appreciate it but I didn't understand anything. I read it thrice now and it just ain't dawning lol. I assure you I feel bad about this.

Oh, well the non-dramatic version is you're exactly the same as Sinny only with the perceived moral high ground. You don't understand the perspective or reasons others hold different perspectives beyond putting them in a box. You only understand those that are similar to you and hate those that aren't. You are the definition of a bigot, because of people like you along with terrorist and serial murders horrible things continue to happen in the world. You're attacking someone for being ignorant by being ignorant yourself and have no perception outside your Ni-Fe bubble.

The latter part was that I can't be annoyed at you for that since the entire world including myself is the same way. I also do not care about anyone outside my bubble I simply understand why they are outside my bubble. I am annoyed that I can't enjoy hate and outrage like you can due to understanding the possible reasons and circumstances behind peoples thoughts and actions that make them possibly reasonable in context. Everybody is reasonable and rational based on their own experiences. (ignoring psychopaths and mental disorders) While what people do may be bad in different contexts in their own it always makes sense which is why you can't expect someone to completely flip flop when then encounter the thing that seems obvious to you as the truth.

The initial part of the post clarifies that this is what I would have said if I was still playing the role I was playing in the middle of the thread. To clarify that role is someone who was being in bronto's words "amicable and receptive" with the opposite socially correct view and a little ignorance but attempting to correct that.

I do not mean any offence by this I was just stating what I saw as (in my acted perspective) the ironic fact of what you were doing... in an amusing over acted outraged way.

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I love that show!

Cherry Cola might be a little bitch but it's undeniable that Sinny's often in this loop he described and degrading the quality of discussion on this forum. This paradigm warrants argument, despite him presenting it crassly.

That's why they should get married in the valentines thread! I would make heaps on a reality tv show.
 

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Maybe she was thinking "maybe this is offensive and nasty" but decided to post anyway

There you go, I eddited in the version which actually happened.
 

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It is not a matter of opinion. You are wrong

Need I point out that I never said I was right :confused:

and have been making zero sense ever since you tried to defend yourself. There is nothing you can explain. You wrote some nasty crap and the tragic thing is despite being shown how crappy it was in a very nice and informative way you can't admit it, not even to yourself.

When you saw Jennywocky's post your reaction should've been "wtf what was I doing, how could I?
Lol, really? I gave Jenny positive feedback. I'd all ready expressed that my intention was to learn and that my opinion was falliable. What the fuck do I need to apologise for? You are ridiculous.

that was really unworthy of me" instead your reaction is to escape responsibility.
You've escalted this whole thing out of proportion; trying (and failing, as always) to deny me my right of freedom of thought and expression.

If you hadn't had the luck of running into someone who bothered to do your research for you, you would still be the same bigot. Doesn't that bother you? That it was all up to chance? That you getting wiser had jack shit with you to do.
Blah blah blah, let it go.

You just lack character.
ahh.

Otherwise you wouldn't try to garner attention by writing sensationalist posts without any regard for the people around you.
There's only two people 'kicking off' over this, bvan & you.
I keep reading the posts out of synch; lets try and leave this be.

On a final note, you're accusing of several things because I shared a view point which I was/am entertaining, one which I'm not dedicated to, nor really invested in. All you've done so far is distract me from doing the homework others have graciously and rationally provided me to look into. This is why the feelz suck. Please keep yours to your self in regards to engaging me in future.
 

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On a further note, here is an interview with a classy anti-SJW translady:

And a somewhat intimate discussion between her and another:

So what were your thoughts on the video(s)?
 
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