# Climate change and capitalism

#### caitlinwaters

##### QUESTION! QUESTION..QUESTION?
So I had this debate at school this week about climate change and everybody was arguing that if we were just able to use less energy or use more sustainable energy, we might be able to save our environment a bit more. I get that this is quite a controversial topic right now, but what I was thinking when everyone was saying we should do less of this or more of that was: capitalism.
If our society was based on individual growth (spirituality, emotional needs, social relations, etc) instead of capitalism, we could save more space for the environment in our world. We are more focused in having stability in our economical systems than adaptability. by that I mean that it's hard to change our ways.
Our society is based on the making of money and on economic growth rather than social relations. There would be no way that a company, whose goal is primarily to make money, would prioritize sustainability before money, as ecologic as that may be, because it will cost them more money. Of course, there are always exceptions to a rule, but I think we can all agree that the environment is not their biggest concern: losing money and making money is.
And this doesn't just apply to companies. It applies to us in our everyday lives too. I'm sure that most of us would not spend more money on - let's say- a more expensive fridge (\$) that is more sustainable and would last longer when we could spend less and have one that functions just as well. It's the same principle but on a much larger scale involving bigger risks.
So I say, the biggest obstacle towards being more sustainable and "saving" the Earth while we still can, would be our pre-established values and habits that can be linked to capitalism. (such as the more money you have, the more valuable you are)
What are your opinions on the matter?

##### think again losers
I basically agree. In theory government is supposed to be able to step in and adjust the capitalist system to prioritise certain things such as climate change (with a carbon credit system for instance). But government is corrupt and busy and subject to the whims of an uneducated population as well as the same corporate interests that are driving climate change in the first place.

This guy is great for the science on all things climate change. The video above is a take on how we can tackle climate change from within the capitalist framework.

#### caitlinwaters

##### QUESTION! QUESTION..QUESTION?
Yepyep..
The problem isn't capitalism itself but it's our inability to adapt our capitalist system. Right now, we don't see as big catastrophes as we will in the future, and I think the biggest issue is the fact that the government is all too set on the present (as in right now to a couple of years) instead of focusing more on our future and the fact we might not have one, if things stay as they are.

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#### Grayman

##### Team Ignorant
Capitalism is fine so long as you tax things that impact the environment and impact shared resources. The increased costs will direct consumers to more sustainable products.

Setting a culture in combination to capitalism would be the best but replacing capitalism with whatever this "If our society was based on individual growth (spirituality, emotional needs, social relations, etc)" is makes no sense. But then neither does your concept of capitalism it seems...