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Dalai Lama

Anthile

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Here was a thread about the Dalai Lama, I think. Sapphire Harp opened it with a long quote from a book that he just bought.
People were debatting his type and I brought up that quote with the electrode and Banana Mango posed an interesting question that I could not answer because of... :mad:


So yeah... let's revive this thread.
 
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As per request... my lengthy post and quote from my personal backups...

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Well, if we’re going to talk about the Dalai Lama, we might as well do it properly… :P

This extract is from Thomas Laird’s book ‘The Story of Tibet.’ The book is about the history of Tibet and the Dalai Lama, told through interviews with the Dalai Lama - and the book is primarily based in English and very straightforward. Incredibly interesting book and -very- easy to get through. If any of you are interested, the hardback versions are still at most Barnes & Nobles stores in the clearance sections for $7 apiece (as of this week). I definitely recommend you pick up a copy.

This section is about the finding of the current Dalai Lama:

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A year after his selection [as regent], Reting Rinpoche undertook the most important part of his job: the search for the Fourteenth Dalai Lama. He went to Lake Lhamo Latso, the vision lake, and gazed into its depths during meditation. Five hundred years earlier, the guardian spirit of the lake, Palden Lhamo, had promised the first Dalai Lama, in one of his visions, that she would protect the reincarnation lineage of the Dalai Lamas. Traditionally the goddess granted the regent a vision as he meditated and gazed into the lake, to guide him in the search for the new Dalai Lama.

Reting Rinpoche was silent about what he sad in the lake, despite much prodding, until 1936. That year he summond the National Assembly and announced that his vision showed that the Dalai Lama would reincarnate in the eastern province of Amdo. He had seen the Tibetan letter Ah in the lake and a few other details, which pointed toward a specific house in a specific village in Amdo. In the end, three search teams left Lhasa, all heading east, and one of them followed the omens given by Reting Rinpoche.


Following the regent's vision, the search team that later found little Lhamo made its way first to the remote town of Jeykundo. There they met the Panchen Lama, who had fled to China in the 1920s after refusing to pay Lhasa the taxes that the Thirteenth [Dalai Lama] had demanded of him to support the army, and was now unsuccessfully attempting to negotiate his return to Tibet.

During long discussions between the Chinese and Tibetan governments (Lhasa refused to allow Chinese soldiers to accompany him), the Panchen Lama had been stuck in Jyekundo, where he quietly investigated reports of unusual children born in the area after the death of the Thirteenth Dalai Lama. As the Fourteenth mentioned, the spiritual link between the two lineages of reincarnate lamas never wavered, despite the political trouble. The Panchen Lama heard about a fearless boy in Taktser, and the name was added to the search team's list. The Panchen Lama died the following year, without ever returning to Tibet.


In May 1937, the search team reached the largest monastery in Amdo- Kumbum, founded on on the birth site of Tsongkhapa- which they recognized from the regent's vision. Takster was not far from Kumbum, but first the team went to pay respects to the local political power, Ma Pu-fang, delaying their arrival in Takster until September.

To evaluate the boy in a natural setting, the head of the search team and also a Tulku called Ketsang Rinpoche traded clothes and position with his servant. The party posed as travelers and asked Lhamo's parents for food and lodging for the night. Ketsang sat quietly in the kitchen with the other servants while Lhamo's parents were busy entertaining the "high lama" in the main room of the house.

The Dalai Lama remembers nothing about the moment that was about to change his life, because he was only two years old. Ever since, however, he has heard reports about it from everyone who was present. He entereted the kitchen and found Ketsang Rinpoche, a reincarnate lama from Sera Monastery, with an old rosary in his hands, sitting casually by the fire. The rosary had belonged to the Thirteenth Dalai Lama. The boy went fearlessly over to him and said, "I want that." Ketsang Rinpoche said, "If you know who I am, I will definitely give you this rosary." The child then called out, "Sera Lama, Sera Lama," identifying where Ketsang Rinpoche was from.

"When the search party reached us," The Dalia Lama said, "they said I spoke Lhasa dialect. I don't remember, but my mother told me that I spoke with the search party members in a language she didn't understand. So that means I used the language of my previous life." He chuckled and shook his head; he maintains a certain incredulousness about these stories even now.

Ketsang Rinpoche was impressed at being identified as a lama from Sera and at the way the boy kept holding the rosary. When the party set off the next morning, Lhamo reportedly cried, begging to go with the group. Convinced that Lhamo was probably the Fourteenth Dalai Lama, the search team returned to Takster a few days later and notified his parents that they wished to test the boy officially. The parents thought the search party was merely looking for a reincarnate; it did not occur to them they were looking for the next Dalai Lama. Because, oddly enough, two of Lhamo's brothers had already been recognized as reincarnates, the family by now was not surprised.

Multiple items that had belonged to the late Dalai Lama - and similar-looking items that did not belong to him - were put before the boy on a long table. In every case, Lhamo selected the Dalai Lama's objects and discarded the fakes without hesitation: "It's mine." Of the dozen other boys tested, none selected more than one of the real objects, and one shy child refused to even come near the search party.
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The party was convinced that Tenzin Gyatso was the reincarnated Dalai Lama and wanted to bring home back to the Dalai Lama’s seat in Lhasa, but they were obstructed for two years by the Amdo’s Chinese governer, who demanded 32,000 British pounds for the release of the boy (current equivalent of $2.5 million). After the party managed to borrow enough to pay it and return to Lhasa, they declared the boy as the Fourteenth Dalai Lama.
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Speaking more generally, the Dalai Lama is a very hard individual to type… Normally one thinks of Buddhism as a very introverted religion, but it also encourages quite a lot of extroversion as well… Same thing with both intuition and sensing… Whatever the Dalai Lama naturally leaned to be, every year of practice brought him closer to a very balanced individual… moving towards XXXP, I would say.

From what stories the Dalai Lama told about his childhood, I would guess he might have been an ENFP without any other influence. It sounds like he was pretty rambunctious, loving to play with people, particularly playing at soldiery with the attendants in Lhasa… Although, he did have a very inquisitive nature towards things electronic and mechanical and still has it… I also think he borrowed (stole) a jeep on the grounds of the palace one night when he was young… And accidently cracked a light or something like that… :p

But to respond more directly - honestly, from what the interview conveys, the boy doesn’t sound anything like an INTP. And, besides, people are far from settled into a type’s behavior when they’re young… Whims change a child’s behavior greatly and very quickly when they’re two years old.
 
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