Do you watch TV?

[Cognisant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPpBlDaKM_o

I only watch Antiques Roadshow, everything else is so dumb it's painful to watch.
On TV that is, I watch the shit out of Youtube.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

I don't watch tv, it kills the independent mind, I work on reducing the time I spend on youtube and other (tv like content produced) media, they too kill the mind and waste time.

I've successfully managed to avoid anything related to "Pewdiepie" for years.

He's a very sad meme-phenomenon of an average cheerful and laid back male that many can relate to and can waste hours enjoying, in search for the substitute fix to their personal situation.

Find a happy person, make a brand out of it and there will be a flock of needy feeding of it. Pretty similar to finding a guru or again; watching tv among other things. (Extensively watching someone else do something for 'entertainment', gameplay, sports, ugh, this is devolution in essence imo).

 

[Architect]

I have not for 20 years. as Blarraun says

don't watch tv, it kills the independent mind

I find S dominants most likely to need television. With the ones around me it provides a connection for them which is very important. Therefore TV conforms largely to the S psyche, which means it doesn't provide content for the N psyche. For us the internet is nearly perfect, it allows us to interact with the collective in a more nuanced and individualized way.

For entertainment I've become a great fan of movies however and have a custom theater installed in my house for that. It's become part of my sons education; now he only likes watching movies that are in black and white.

 

[Sinny91]

Rarely, and when I do it's mainly for background noise.
The things a dangerous, polluted tool, I wouldn't poison my mind with it, it's called programming for a reason.

I watch other people watch TV, (Not in the Goggle Box sense). I know a handful of people who live for the 'Saturday night shows'. They turn the TV on and they turn their mind off. Their pupils dilate as their senses are seduced and consumed by the hypnotism..They savor every morsel.

People scare me.

 

[rainman312]

I quit watching TV and movies several years ago. I watch the occasional documentary, if that counts, but other than that, no. It's way too boring and useless.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

I don't actually watch on a television with scheduled commercials and all that, but yes I watch the shit out of TV shows. I like experiencing stories and analyzing storytelling as a general concept. What makes it good? What makes it bad? How would I have made this story? Would my way have been better or worse? Do these characters accomplish their purpose? If they don't, is it the fault of the actor, the writer, or both? etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPpBlDaKM_o

I only watch Antiques Roadshow, everything else is so dumb it's painful to watch.
On TV that is, I watch the shit out of Youtube.

Everything on the TV is so dumb it's painful for you to watch, and yet you like PewdiePie? I'm actually a little at a loss for words.



Addendum:
I started writing responses to all the other posts in the thread but I decided to delete them, as it came off a little as me being slightly belligerent and also misrepresented my actual opinions about television. I totally understand (and, in some cases, agree with) all of the complaints above.

A lot of TV shows (especially the popular, mainstream ones) are really fucking dumb and can be painful to watch. But to blame that on television itself is a bit misguided, I think. There are dumb movies. Dumb books. Dumb songs. Any element of pop culture is going to have some really dumb stuff, that's just the way it goes.

I personally find value in TV shows. Hell, even the bad ones have value (except The Big Bang Theory. Fuck that steaming pile of shit). As I mentioned above, I like analyzing the things that work and the things that don't. I like the stories. I enjoy finding characters that I connect to. The really good ones even teach me things about myself that I hadn't realized.

To be honest, I find it really strange to talk about shows as if they're separate or different from movies (or even books, to be honest).

 

[zerkalo]

yeah pewdiepie is unbearable to watch...
i do watch tv from time to time, NHKworld has lots of good programs.

 

[TheManBeyond]

No i don't if I turn it up is because I would like to feel some human like company if i'm cooking something or anything specially if the show is live. I don't find any interesting show on it. I can find anything in internet.
Perhaps some free football game. Perhaps thr news. Not much.
When I was younger I used to buy porn sessions.

 

[Reluctantly]

There are some good shows I have to watch. Currently it's

House of Cards
Hannibal
Walking Dead
Game of Thrones



Come to think of it all the shows I enjoy watching are usually specially made shows. Not typical fill in the time slot shows. Though I do like South Park and sometimes the Simpsons and Futurama are really witty in their satire. Though I've started to like more television shows, since the politics of work exhausts me mentally; I've gotten to the point where I'd rather watch someone else on youtube play some video games, instead of playing myself.

 

[Minuend]

I don't have a television, but I do acquire and watch the occasional TV show. Though, it's not like it matters as I waste a lot of time on brain dead places on ze net. I wouldn't have the mental stamina to make every minute of the day a productive one.

Having grown up with a television, there are definitely situations where it comes with a pleasant atmosphere and where the commercial breaks are even part of that nostalgic feel. So when I'm visiting someone, it can be a nice experience watching an hour or two of telly and the particular feel that comes along with it.

And lastly, I find that even with some crappy TV, there's still some fascination in analyzing the participants, how it's set up and how it tries to draw a crowd. If it has actors, I try to see what the actor thinks about the role it's playing, which feelings the creators are trying to create in viewers (which also tends to reveal something more intimate about the creators and what they consider to be feel awakening). That being said, some shows are unbearable even in that

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Everything on the TV is so dumb it's painful for you to watch, and yet you like PewdiePie? I'm actually a little at a loss for words.

How did you manage to conclude that Cog watches (likes) pdp? He linked to a "game theory" channel with a commentary on click baits and trending off on negative reactions (briefly touching the media shift from tv to digital/net), which only mentions pdp as a trending feature. It was relatively informative. Which you seem to have judged based on its title. That or it might be your joke.
Related to cog's topic vid:

Spoiler

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To be honest, I find it really strange to talk about shows as if they're separate or different from movies (or even books, to be honest).

I think most people are providing their personal outlooks on things. There's value and inspiration in any medium (this is what belies its definition, it's a path, not an end).

I wouldn't have the mental stamina to make every minute of the day a productive one.

Completely agreed.

 

[~~~]

Not really.

 

[Pyropyro]

No because we don't have a TV set :P

 

[onesteptwostep]

Yup don't have TV here either. Hadn't had one in like 10 years or so. I remember watching the Simpsons during middle school but that's my last recollection.

 

[Brontosaurie]

Not very much.

With gf i watch series. Right now Sons of Anarchy, before that Narcos, before that Rectify, etc.

With a friend i watch some youtubers, in particular Sargon of Akkad.

When i'm alone it's more about clicking around within an idea rather than watching some production in particular.

As for TV meaning antiquated broadcasting models, it's very occasional. Usually with my mother.

Don't know why i felt an urge to disclose some of my entertainment preferences. It's conceivable that my whack-balls Fi needs to be grounded in the comforting collective emotional craving for entertainment.

 

[Miss spelt]

I find S dominants most likely to need television. With the ones around me it provides a connection for them which is very important. Therefore TV conforms largely to the S psyche, which means it doesn't provide content for the N psyche.

General question for you Architect,

How is this^ (above)

ANY different from

this (below):

For entertainment I've become a great fan of movies however and have a custom theater installed in my house for that. It's become part of my sons education; now he only likes watching movies that are in black and white.

It's not. It's really, really, not.



Another question:

now he only likes watching movies that are in black and white.

Is this because it has been your ordinance?

 

[Yellow]

I own a TV. We buy Netflix a couple months a year with plans to watch all kinds of things, but we rarely get around to it. I don't YouTube. I just don't like people that much, and most videos feel like the social/emotional equivalent to having a random person screaming in my face about whatever. I don't like music videos either. They detract from the music. I will use YouTube, though, to play cartoons at work when someone hands me a random baby. It sits in my lap watching Donald Duck cartoons, and I do my paperwork one-handed.

Edit: I will never forgive any of you for bringing PewDiePie to my attention. This is almost as bad as the Honey BooBoo thing you people alerted me to a while back. You're all going to hell.

 

[zerkalo]

now he only likes watching movies that are in black and white.

Is this because it has been your ordinance?

yeah...no offence architect but what the heck are you getting at? since when does color scheme of the medium insinuate quality?

i see lots of "black and white film blogs" on tumblr and i honestly dont see how these differ from "pale" blogs or whatever. point is, color would only matter so much if watching a film nothing more than a visual trip for you...but given the subject matter of this thread, its fair to assume that this isnt what youre getting at

i was going to say that your preference for monochromatic films suggests euro-centric tastes...but even that wouldnt be true nor fair given the abundance of quality films in color that dont get enough attention like films from the czech new wave and yoguslav cinema...and films by directors like manoel de oliveira, harun farocki, theodoros angelopoulos, pier paolo pasolini and sharunas bartas(to name a few).

what you said bothers me because a lot of people seem to have a similar mentality with regard to film quality. its the reason why films by african and asian directors produced every year get little to no attention, and this neglect is always attributed to vacant excuses like limited distribution and language barriers...when these things should no longer be an issue because internet and criterion collection.
what im trying to say is that there's a whole world of cinema beyond the scope of the stuff that gets attention. a rich world that has a lot to offer but is sadly neglected. if you were to spelunk a little bit, you would find lots of forsaken directors and forsaken film cultures that have produced gems(films by directors like edward yang, tsai mig liang, abderrahmane sissako, jian wen, kon ichikawa etc.) that easily stand next to and even trump "giants of cinema" like orson welles and stanley kubrick

 

[Brontosaurie]

Mad Max: Fury Road is better than all b/w movies.

 

[Jennywocky]

I don't really "watch TV"; there are specific shows I will record, but my days of surfing around watching whatever happens to be on stopped long ago. It's all very tightly targeted.

well, aside from when I get stuck on Discovery or ID Discovery and ended up getting sucked into some interesting documentaries on events/topics I haven't explored yet... but that's pretty rare.

I don't actually watch on a television with scheduled commercials and all that, but yes I watch the shit out of TV shows. I like experiencing stories and analyzing storytelling as a general concept. What makes it good? What makes it bad? How would I have made this story? Would my way have been better or worse? Do these characters accomplish their purpose? If they don't, is it the fault of the actor, the writer, or both? etc.

yeah, that's the thing -- I think there is a difference between watching a show as a thoughtless consumer just trying to pass the time, and watching something with a critical/artistic eye as to better understand the content as well as the delivery of it. I don't deal well with fluff, usually I'm watching something to analyze the content, learn something, or understand how it was done.

To be honest, I find it really strange to talk about shows as if they're separate or different from movies (or even books, to be honest).

I consider TV to be just another medium. I do think for a long time TV was aimed at the lowest common denominator in general and wasn't much use except as mental junk food. But I think that has changed drastically especially in the last ten years or so, and every so often before then there were shows with more substance. You can even offer more character development in a TV series if the episodes are not simply one-shot encapsulations -- i.e., if you actually have a long running plotline where the characters grow and change. Movies, you're usually stuck in the 90-150 minute mark.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

How did you manage to conclude that Cog watches (likes) pdp? He linked to a "game theory" channel with a commentary on click baits and trending off on negative reactions (briefly touching the media shift from tv to digital/net), which only mentions pdp as a trending feature. It was relatively informative. Which you seem to have judged based on its title. That or it might be your joke.

Yeah, that's my bad. I didn't actually watch the video he linked. I just saw the title and thumbnail, the statement that Cog watches the shit out of YouTube, and the resulting discussion about PewDiePie and assumed the video was one of his.

Apologies, everyone.

 

[kora]

fuck no

 

[kora]

Adverts are really hateful, they set my teeth on edge. I hate how they're usually at a slightly higher volume than whatever series is on so they get your attention, it's aggressive and hard to blank out.
I download everything I want to watch, movies and series. I like the radio (channels with no ads).

 

[Reluctantly]

I used to watch AVGN when he had really bad games to play.

curses to anyone that doesn't like him. curses

 

[DrGregoryHouse]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPpBlDaKM_o

I only watch Antiques Roadshow, everything else is so dumb it's painful to watch.
On TV that is, I watch the shit out of Youtube.

Ditto. Pretty much Antiques Roadshow doesn't suck. The rest is intended for the idiocracy audience:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_4jrMwvZ2A

I go out of my way to avoid any adverts, anywhere anytime I avoid them to the point of looking away and muting if I can't avoid having to wait through one

 

[Miss spelt]

Ditto. Pretty much Antiques Roadshow doesn't suck. The rest is intended for the idiocracy audience:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_4jrMwvZ2A

Every time I read one of your posts judging intelligence based on entertainment preferences,

I look at your salad fingers avatar and feel sorry for you being the dumbest person in the room and never knowing it.

 

[redbaron]

But high IQ LOLz you zombie!

When I watch TV I leave the screen off. I stare into the blackness and superimpose images with my imagination. After some time realistic holograms coalesce and entertain me.

Then I turn the images into scenes of despair and violent carnage before allowing the blackness to consume the reflection of my imagination.

I'm so dark and edgy.

 

[Sixup]

But high IQ LOLz you zombie!

When I watch TV I leave the screen off. I stare into the blackness and superimpose images with my imagination. After some time realistic holograms coalesce and entertain me.

Then I turn the images into scenes of despair and violent carnage before allowing the blackness to consume the reflection of my imagination.

I'm so dark and edgy.

you sound like a TRUE INTP

 

[redbaron]

#truintp dats me

 

[Sixup]

ANyway as far as the OP....I enjoy some shows.

I probably wouldn't if it weren't for the wife. I'm content to sit here trolling forums, or thinking about life, or working on my obsession of the moment.

But lately we've been watching Curb Your Enthusiasm. Hilarious. Just about done with it. Yeah I know it's old, or whatever.

I like Bojack Horseman. Saw that posted in here not long ago. Just watched the episode about CHICKEN 4 DAYZ. Hah.

Been trying to get into that show Sense 8...but it's fucking slow. The first 2 episodes were basically 35 minutes of bullshit then 5-10 minutes of actual plot development...TO BE CONTINUED! Damnit.


But on the point of the hypocrisy of people saying ZOMG YUO WATCH TV HAHA UR BECOME IDIOTE LOL! As they spend 29 hours a day checking forums, blogs, and youtube. Yeah that's silly.

 

[Reluctantly]

But on the point of the hypocrisy of people saying ZOMG YUO WATCH TV HAHA UR BECOME IDIOTE LOL! As they spend 29 hours a day checking forums, blogs, and youtube. Yeah that's silly.

...lol, good point.

 

[bleo]

No. I don't like the TV with all its commercials. It makes me sick, because it tries to grab your attention in so many different places.

I only own a TV for my gaming console.

 

[grayskies]

No, not at all unless there's a game (sports) on.
I've missed out on TV the whole of last year, but when I was watching it, I wasn't really watching ...I would usually just be listening to it as I did something.

 

[chi-moon]

yeah pewdiepie is unbearable to watch...
i do watch tv from time to time, NHKworld has lots of good programs.

Me too, I love the documentaries. Other than that, everything on tv are quite boring to watch, so I will always prefer internet.

 

[peoplesuck]

only a few hours per day. the only thing worth watching is the reality shows. my favorite one has a lot of drama

 

[Reluctantly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTpjKeN2Yxw

PewdiePie plays Last Chance Supermarket

pewdiepie

 

[QuickTwist]

Stop that Reluctantly, I can feel myself getting dumber watching that moron.

 

[PaulMaster]

I watch the NFL during football season then shut the cable off. Occasionally I'll binge watch something on Netflix - typically cartoons, but there have been a couple of exceptions in my past (Burn Notice was awesome!).

I have two young sons, so kids cartoons are on my TV regularly, whether anyone is paying attention or not.

 

[Hadoblado]

FYI PDP is not a moron. He's a self made multimillionaire who iirc makes $4,000,000 a year. He didn't even have support from his parents when he started out. Idiots do not turn minimum wage into millions. Don't mistake the appeal of his product for the caliber of his thoughts.

As for TV... I can't do ads. I get upset when plots are too choreographed or budgeting/marketing of the content demands repetition of tropes. That said, I find many shows inspiring, and I'm particularly drawn to characters and their portrayal. I watch a series maybe once every 2-3 months, and it impacts my outlook considerably, making me feel more engaged my reality. Strange how that works.

I'm not very good to watch things with though... I sit there looking for inconsistencies to be upset by. Sometimes I find myself forcing it, which is just silly.

 

[paradoxparadigm7]

I watch TV but I'm selective to suit my tastes (wow, that's revolutionary, I know). I want to plug a UK comedy I think is subtle, funny and for some reason grabs you. Check out The Detectorists. It's on Nextflix and maybe elsewhere? For forum members in the UK, please tell me the show is being renewed beyond one season, pleeeeeeese.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

FYI PDP is not a moron. He's a self made multimillionaire who iirc makes $4,000,000 a year. He didn't even have support from his parents when he started out. Idiots do not turn minimum wage into millions. Don't mistake the appeal of his product for the caliber of his thoughts.

Maybe he's a smart guy, however the content he produces is moronic, which in turn makes him an entertaining clown for the audience I think.

 

[Happy]

Not TV, but I watch all the Netflix and other such providers. I don't do this to numb my brain though - quite the contrary. I do it so that I may examine the creative processes behind everything. It feeds my creativity. The unseen process is so much more interesting than the content.

EDIT: I refuse to watch broadcast TV. I feel my brain cells die every time I see another ad for insurance or whatever.

 

[PaulMaster]

I feel my brain cells die every time I see another ad for insurance or whatever.

I actively resist marketing and advertising. One of my absolute least favorite things in the world is the giant commercial that the whole country (I've never left my own country) is becoming. Its as if every interaction is a sales pitch. The phoniness of it is beyond infuriating.

Is this a common INTP thing? Do we all hate advertising?

 

[Intolerable]

If you watch Twitch.Tv at all you'll realize that PDP isn't all that unique. He's your garden variety gamer personality. Well maybe that's a disservice to him. Maybe he's better than the others. Just saying that you'll find plenty of that on Twitch.

Some of it is funny though. I used to watch ExcessiveProfanity's channel until he went apeshit one night and banned me for disagreeing with him about how worldly he was. He had wild mood swings when playing really difficult games and it was great to watch.

None of them are particularly intelligent. Just entertaining ( some, not all ) to watch. That said they're a step up from their female counterparts who just flash smiles and big tits for income.

Insofar as TV goes I don't watch public or package channels. I came to the conclusion in my twenties that TV is more off than on. More of a waste of time than it is time well spent. Objectively speaking we spend half our time watching commercials for shit we don't need nor want. Nobody can call that time well spent.

I do watch subscription channels because they tend to lack commercials.

@PaulMaster - not an INTP thing. All humans hate commercials unless they managed to get something out of it. If it doesn't reveal something of value to you and it shows up routinely of course you'll hate it. It is a waste of time!

 

[Sinny91]

I haven't watched TV in nearly 3 months, and I've come to notice that since I've been TV free, I struggle to sleep, more so.

There used to come a point when I would look at the clock, know that I should sleep, put something on the TV and watch it till I slept, or at least just listen to it.

Before that time in life, I used to have to sleep in silence, I'm not sure when that changed.

But these days, I don't like the silence. It's deafening. Having no TV around has just encouraged me to read- constantly, or write. But the problem with that is that I just can't seem to stop, makes my brain more active.

TV brainwashing set me to sleep.

I need to find a median.

Bleh, maybe if I got of my fookin arse and got my self back into work, I'd appreciate a good night's sleep.

 

[charliepoo]

I haven't owned a TV in years. I just pirate my movies and subscribe to netflix and hbo go. I listen to podcasts and read the news mostly and my phone has a nice app for the weather. done and done.

 

[Happy]

I sold my TV for $50 a few weeks ago. I spent the money on burgers. No regrets whatsoever.

 

[Sly-fy]

I hope they were the three tastiest burgers you ever spend $50 on in Sydney.

As for me, whenever I get more money my priority is buying a bigger, better TV. I only watch US cable channels though as I don`t like hearing the Aussie accent for longer than three consecutive seconds per day, and I stream the channels to the TV from my laptop via HDMI. Everything else I do on the computer I also use the big screen TV for, like work, games, movies, surfing the web, Skype etc... oh and reading Kindle!

 

[Happy]

They were even tastier than big kahuna burgers.

 

[Nebulous]

I don't really "watch tv" either.
I'll watch Star Trek TNG if it's on.
The only time I really watch anything is if it's a fandom of mine.
I have a constant need to be obsessed with at least one fandom.

TV shows I've been in the fandoms of:
Avatar: the Last Airbender
Legend of Korra
Sherlock (BBC)
Gravity Falls - this ended in February, and I still spend hours every day thinking about it.