INTP Supermind and Questions

[Stratagem]

I have a question(s): What are your thoughts on ruling the world with me?

Any progress on creating that INTP super mind where we combine all our brains into one super INTP and destroy the INTJs?

How about advanced AI? Anyone found any useful information on that?

Are you thinking of joining the race about discovering advanced AI once you get off that beautiful couch that everyone wants to hug and never let go of and play PS4 on for eternity? (Translation: Are you or ever were interested in discovering advanced AI regardless of procrastination habits and why?)

What are your thoughts on reversing aging? Because living here for possibly another 800 years might be interesting or foolish.

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And most importantly of all questions regarding any concerns of any INTP in any category of any livable universe of all types of alternate dimensions...

Who's your favorite Youtuber?
(mine is Pyrocynical currently)

 

[Black Rose]

A.I. is only as good as the boundaries you set for it. That means both physically and mentally the way it represents the world is bound by the feedback / interactions it receives. If you change something in the environment the change must be something less complex than the learning curve if it is a problem that needs solving. Set a robot in front of s broken PC and it won't know how to fix it because it does not understand what an operating system is or where the boot menu is. Even a super smart human would not be able to figure out how to fix a bug in the operating system with megabytes worth of code unless they knew what a computer was and what the basics are (how do you find a bug). It all begins with the basics because every realm of knowledge needs them for the specific hierarchy of any system. A.I. needs to understand how to learn the rules of a domain (positive and negative consequences) and what can be built with them. Learn the basics then build hierarchies, then cross domains. (Domains actually represent subhierarchies of greater understanding when combined).

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

INTP destroying the INTJ...

Well, cancel the INT from both sides,

P conquers J.

Using P = open minded, J = close minded definition,

Translate to the spirit versus the flesh, or life vs lack of life.

Let us give life to which lacks life.

Let usssssssssss hmm.

Live. Let us live.

In!

Peace, and excitement. And all that good stuff.

Good stuff!

Good stuff.

 

[Stratagem]

A.I. is only as good as the boundaries you set for it. That means both physically and mentally the way it represents the world is bound by the feedback / interactions it receives. If you change something in the environment the change must be something less complex than the learning curve if it is a problem that needs solving. Set a robot in front of s broken PC and it won't know how to fix it because it does not understand what an operating system is or where the boot menu is. Even a super smart human would not be able to figure out how to fix a bug in the operating system with megabytes worth of code unless they knew what a computer was and what the basics are (how do you find a bug). It all begins with the basics because every realm of knowledge needs them for the specific hierarchy of any system. A.I. needs to understand how to learn the rules of a domain (positive and negative consequences) and what can be built with them. Learn the basics then build hierarchies, then cross domains. (Domains actually represent subhierarchies of greater understanding when combined).

This makes sense, in order for an advanced AI to be formed like in the famous movie Terminator where they walk and talk like a human it would need an understanding of how the human mind even works. But to even achieve that we, the humans, need to understand our own physcology or how the brain functions before we could even consider coding it.

Thus why the race for intelligent AI is little iffy in my opinion; these people talk highly of such an existence coming very soon where machines would rebel against us or do all the work for us. In a sense this is true because machines can be programmed to do specific tasks in specific areas as you pointed out, however to do ALL the tasks in every type of field and to have an artificial intelligence based government that would keep machines and humans alike in line is like aiming a nuke at an alien planet on the other side of the cosmos and expecting it to hit by Thursday.

What I am curios of out of this AI race is how close we are to using machines to function most of our work. I've been thinking of ways recently how one could use a AI to do farm labor. Like being able to detect a stream of water (imagine an Aqueduct) where all we would have to do is fill a large can of water where every day it will pump out water to water crops. There would be "doors" that would open and close to control the stream of water to each specific crop, therefore not over watering or under watering any of it. Other things to consider would be weather, fail safe, etc. And if a team was able to accomplish that, next figure out ways to stack crops on top of each other while also still receiving sunlight so farmers didn't have to purchase so much land.

Regardless its just a dream i'm having; I need to finish the basics of engineering first and review my flash cards. I don't have enough knowledge in this area to really have a hardcore debate of it YET. Thanks for the reply.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

A.I. is only as good as the boundaries you set for it.

Ugh... I'm taking issue with this line.

See, to me, the thing which makes intelligence true intelligence, is the ability to cross boundaries, so a thing which is bounded... it just seems to lack that spark.

This I guess is the problem. Yes, we can create increasingly complex, efficient programs for relating to the environment, solving it in real time... but is that truly intelligence?

The thing is... the final step is not something that we can create ourselves.

The final step will create itself.

We can set things up in the best way for the final step to be taken.

However it will never be predicted. It's not up to us. Not quite.

It's waiting.

: ]

 

[Black Rose]

See, to me, the thing which makes intelligence true intelligence, is the ability to cross boundaries, so a thing which is bounded... it just seems to lack that spark.

I can't reach past my boundaries, I can only change what boundaries I have otherwise I am just dust in the wind. The body gives form to any action taken and the body recognizes internal and external layers of change.

This I guess is the problem. Yes, we can create increasingly complex, efficient programs for relating to the environment, solving it in real time... but is that truly intelligence?

The boundaries are really just tests to see what you learn because not everyone has rich parents and not everyone has good teachers. A boundary is a teacher and you learn from the boundaries you encounter. Put a baby in a box for 9 years and you will only get a lump that is somewhat alive because that was its boundary. Having no boundaries means you don't exist. Learning requires boundaries and those boundaries teach you. The choice with no boundaries is being a lump or not existing. Boundaries are necessary because boundaries change who you are.

The thing is... the final step is not something that we can create ourselves.

The final step will create itself.

We can set things up in the best way for the final step to be taken.

However it will never be predicted. It's not up to us. Not quite.

It's waiting.

: ]

The more internal control you have the more control of the external you will have. Boundaries change you.

edit:

so long as I am a finite being I will have boundaries, I am not God.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

A person in prison said life's fucked, every day...
Well isn't that just a fucked up thing to say?

Oh, so you're not saying you're bounded you're saying a problem is a boundary, and it remains in boundary-status until the problem is solved.

So, ultimately, the set of all boundaries would have to be unbounded, right?

And the set of all changes made to boundaries would also be unbounded, correct?

I wonder what the set of eternal bounds looks like?