JESIN, I know your secret.

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I feel really smart for figuring it out.

 

[Jesin]

Umm, yes. Now what about my weakness?

You can represent stuff like this:

.......
.O..O..
.....O.
.O...O.
..OOOO.
.......

 

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Hmmmm. Interesting idea, what would your weakness be? I'm assuming it's the position and phase where one change would make your pattern be destroyed. But destroyed in such a way that you don't "nova" first. So I'm looking for a way to make you just disappear, with nothing left.

It'd probably be easier to destroy the pattern in a non-nova way by removing a pixel. I'll see if there are solutions for either adding or removing.

To the laboratory!

 

[Decaf]

How about this?

.....0..
.....0.0
.....00.
..00....
.0.0....
.0......
00......

 

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.......
.O..O..
.....O.
.O...O.
..OOXO.
.......

If you remove the cell where the X is then the lifeform will become:

.......
.....00
.....O0
.....O0
.......
.......

So it doesn't nova, which is "good" but my arbitrary rules, but it also doesn't completely go away.

 

[Ogion]

I'd much more go with this one:

010
001
111

But that would be pretension


Ogion

P.S.: Look here, if you don't get what that symbol means.

 

[Jesin]

I'd much more go with this one:

010
001
111

But that would be pretension


Ogion

P.S.: Look here, if you don't get what that symbol means.

Wrong. It came from the Game of Life first, and was given that meaning later.

 

[Jesin]

.......
.O..O..
.....O.
.O...O.
..OOXO.
.......

If you remove the cell where the X is then the lifeform will become:

.......
.....00
.....O0
.....O0
.......
.......

So it doesn't nova, which is "good" but my arbitrary rules, but it also doesn't completely go away.

Wrong. For one thing, you need to carry that further, and for another, you can't mess with an existing pattern directly. You have to make it collide with something else.

 

[Jesin]

How about this?

.....0..
.....0.0
.....00.
..00....
.0.0....
.0......
00......

You most likely copied that pattern off of something without understanding how it works, because you're using it wrong. You only need part of that.

And could you please not intersperse everything with tags? It gets in the way, and it's a bit annoying.

 

[Decaf]

You most likely copied that pattern off of something without understanding how it works, because you're using it wrong. You only need part of that.

Obviously. We're just starting to learn about this game and what you're asking for is a fairly complicated endeavor. Perhaps you'd prefer if I didn't attempt to participate in the discussion.

And could you please not intersperse everything with tags? It gets in the way, and it's a bit annoying.

Why? Are you transferring what we're writing into another medium? Perhaps that would help because I don't even know what I need in order to simulate potential designs. So far this is just a pen and paper exercise.

Nevermind, I think I've expended all the interest I had in the game.

 

[Ogion]

Jesin, i know it came from there. It's just that this particular pattern has been adopted by the geek/hacker community as their logo.
And my phrase about pretension isn't that correct, because

Raymond has said that one does not claim to be a hacker by displaying this emblem, but suggests that "by using this emblem, you express sympathy with hackers' goals, hackers' values, and the hacker way of living".

Ogion

 

[Jesin]

I guess I came off as more hostile than I intended to. Sorry.

Good job finding that pattern, though.

Anyway, this pattern

OO..
O.O.
..O.
..OO

is often known as an Eater, because it can "eat" many small spaceships while remaining unchanged. The one you found is facing the other way, and is about to eat a glider.

For a good simulation program for the Game of Life, go here:
http://www.ibiblio.org/lifepatterns/


@Ogion: I actually chose the LWSS because it was the smallest spaceship other than the glider, which was already taken.

 

[Decaf]

The one you found is facing the other way, and is about to eat a glider.

OH... ok, that explains why there were several different pictures of that shape. I thought they were iterations of the same shape over time, but that makes more sense.

And no worries... I've been stressed lately. Sometimes I take out my aggression by picking at other people's minor aggressions and making them seem like outright hostility