Random thoughts on music space shifting adquired

[TheManBeyond]

this past days i've been really into a band i used to hate. HIM, yes those finish vampires.
i remember when i had like 14 used to hate them for being so mehish, i didn't care for the fact they were not complex, that wasn't the problem, i just found their songs so uncatchy and easy listening and passionless and perhaps their looks added something to the mix. But now that i think about it i was listening at that time tons of popy punk rock like the offspring, oldie green day stuff, blink 182, nirvana and SFPish common stuff like that.
I used to think the whole emo - gothic movement sucked hard, long life tony hawk pro skater, but i was nerdy about it, i didn't have the look neither the skills to do skateboarding so i was like some nerd ISFP angry at world for not knowing how to fit in thus INFP playing my guitar and dreaming of recording music, pirating software and making art work for "singles" i recorded and weird stuff like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifwf8RrU-94

But now i'm diggin HIM somehow, their singer has tons of talent, i can't be sure about the other band members since i don't know if they create their songs at meetings or they get the main idea from their singer as well. Plus they never jam that much live to notice skill enough and doesn't really make anything remarkable individualy throughtough their discography.
But they at least offer a solid performance of what they've got recorded in studio. Thing that many bands do at studio and live.
And bar by bar you enjoy, although popy and predictable power chord based progressions with a simple riffage from the keyboard.
This is the very opposite to that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChfQ7iqyOnA

They showoff talent at each second. they are impressive. im in love. and the most important thing: they give you something you can't get from everyone.
These last days i showed both bands to one of my hermit friends and he seemed to like much more the vampires than the japanese people and he explained me that it wasn't because of their whole vibe but because HIM melodies were catchier.
This makes me rethink the direction i should be taking in my next recording session. I'm also thinking about making some electronic stuff.
I've done weird stuff mimicing japanese but i also know how to record simple stuff like HIM. The problem with the later is that i'm always finding it too void and end up sounding like japanese.
Once i was told by some drummer one song of mine were like 5 songs mixed in one and he didn't enjoyed because of it. There wasn't a cohesion.
I also recorded something once, i showed it to my gf at the time and she thought it was amazing, she couldn't believe i had recorded that song, literally: "i can't believe this was made by you" *sings along passionately*. But you know what? it was me trying to sound normal. Cohesion. HIM type. And i was pissed with the fact that this song was the one she liked the most by difference.
Always the same result from almost everyone i show simple shit.

people would prefer instead this kind of shit:

http://picosong.com/eSMN/

XD me at the mic making voices not original tho

DEMO STATE NOT MIXED PROPERLY OR ANYTHING:

japanese kind of:

https://soundcloud.com/atrasalviejo56/bottomless-pit-demo-2

HIM type of:

https://soundcloud.com/atrasalviejo56/new-song-mix

 

[onesteptwostep]

I've been thinking about this for a while too. It's weird how the whole rock/emo genre of the west doesn't receive as much reception while in Japan, it's not considered a complete offlandish subculture.

I have a(n uncomplete) theory on this but I'm not sure if it'll have any traction.

Basically in the japanese language (among other east asian languages, korean to be exact) the syntax is jumbled up so that the verb is at the end of the sentence.

http://www.japaneseprofessor.com/lessons/beginning/structure-japanese-sentence/

In English the grammtical sentence structure is (Subject-Verb-Object). So an example of that would be something like, "I slapped Hilary". But in Japanese, the sentence order is (Subject-Object-Verb), which would translate into "I Hilary slapped" or in Japanese, "bokuwa Hilari-wo hirateuchi-shimashita"

I don't think the English language is built for the natural conveying of sentiment, because much of the setences are about the actions of the subject, or the subject's actions, rather than the actions themselves. The english language is fixiated on pronouns/subject while in japanese, the verb is what that matters.

 

[Sir Eus Lee]

I thought about this for spanish. Spanish may not put the verb at the end, but it does put it after the object. This means the object is described before the verb. You could theorize that in doing so, more emphasis is placed on the object than its qualities. This approach would make Spanish more direct, or create less curiosity compared to English. In sporadic english, we put the verb before the object, which gives it, I think, a natural curiosity, because you have a wait a split second for the actual object that is the given quality, meaning that when the object does come, the verb embellishes it. In spanish, the verb may only 'direct' the object instead of define the object due to placement.