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Religion and Irony

Cognisant

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Most religious people seem to be immune to irony, but is that because they're religious or are they religious because they cannot perceive irony?

What if there was a test for this, 100 questions regarding ironic and unironic situations/speech, the questions have nothing to do with religion.

What if it turned out that there's certain people who don't get irony, they're not stupid, they can understand the concept, it's just not something they're predisposed to be aware of.

What if the predisposition for irony was genetic? What if it could be screened for and even potentially added or removed before birth?

This would make a great book :D
 

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Their brains are immune to cognitive dissonance.

In their minds, contradictions don't exist, so no dissonance exists to be resolved.
 

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Is this just personal experience or...?
 

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If you digest too much Fe, do you become irony..?
 

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Concrete examples? Define religion. Is it fundamentalist Christians? Their views overall tend to be literal interpretations of the Holy Word. The King James version of the Bible tends to rhyme more lines.
 

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I don't really see any of this as being ironic.

Behead Islam: photoshopped
Jesus praying: admittedly nonsensical but I don't really see the irony.
Crossbasher: is just a doublestandard that is inherent in the beliefs of a whole bunch of people.

They're all works of fiction.

I don't like this sort of thinking where you paint a whole category of people with such a broad brush without evidence. You're basically the last person I'd ask for an objective perspective on the trends in the traits of the religious because you have such a hate-on for them.
 

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I am aware of and openly acknowledge my lack of objectivity.

I'm sure there are a lot of genuinely nice religious people, people who preach peace and love and practice what they preach, I can acknowledge that.
 

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Yeah but I'm not saying they're nice. I'm saying they probably understand irony to a similar degree to atheists. All these differences between demographics tend to be waaaay exaggerated.

Even this conversation between us, we're not agreeing on what irony is. The sum of not understanding irony between us is >0.
 

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I'm torn between telling you I was shitposting and defending this hill to the death for shits'n'giggles.
 

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>What if the predisposition for irony was genetic? What if it could be screened for and even potentially added or removed before birth?

I think it's unwise to meddle too much with the genes of humans... who knows what the consequences will be? If it becomes alright to meddle in one area, then what about it becoming alright to meddle in other areas? What happens, if the consequences of meddling in that other area have more negative effects?
 

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Imo, any cartoon strip where they have to write what the person is on their t shirt is painfully shit
 

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But tbf when i raised the jesus thing when i was younger twas all cleared up. Jesus is our lord and god is our father. Lord as in alan sugar i spose
 

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May as well shut down the 3rd thing. The people who say islam is a religion of peace aren't the same ones who want to behead people. Amazing, isn't it?
 

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Imo, any cartoon strip where they have to write what the person is on their t shirt is painfully shit
Granted it's not necessary but I don't see how it detracts from either the humor or the point.

I think your post is shit and I'll tell you why, by calling something shit but not explaining why whatever property of that thing makes it shit you're being critical without adding anything constructive to the discussion, ergo your post is of substandard (i.e. shit) quality.

May as well shut down the 3rd thing. The people who say islam is a religion of peace aren't the same ones who want to behead people. Amazing, isn't it?
Better.
 

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Imo, any cartoon strip where they have to write what the person is on their t shirt is painfully shit
Granted it's not necessary but I don't see how it detracts from either the humor or the point.

I think your post is shit and I'll tell you why, by calling something shit but not explaining why whatever property of that thing makes it shit you're being critical without adding anything constructive to the discussion, ergo your post is of substandard (i.e. shit) quality.
Fine with that, mate.
 

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But tbf when i raised the jesus thing when i was younger twas all cleared up. Jesus is our lord and god is our father. Lord as in alan sugar i spose
I accept your baseless premise (sarcasm)
Why should I care who Alan Sugar is?

May as well shut down the 3rd thing. The people who say islam is a religion of peace aren't the same ones who want to behead people. Amazing, isn't it?
The moderates enable the extremists.

If a religion's fundamentalists are murderous assholes what does that imply about the fundamentals of that religion?

Are people generally good because of or in spite of religion?
Lets consult the text on how to treat your slaves to find out.
 

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But tbf when i raised the jesus thing when i was younger twas all cleared up. Jesus is our lord and god is our father. Lord as in alan sugar i spose
I accept your baseless premise (sarcasm)
Why should I care who Alan Sugar is?

May as well shut down the 3rd thing. The people who say islam is a religion of peace aren't the same ones who want to behead people. Amazing, isn't it?
The moderates enable the extremists.

If a religion's fundamentalists are murderous assholes what does that imply about the fundamentals of that religion?

Are people generally good because of or in spite of religion?
Lets consult the text on how to treat your slaves to find out.
I wasn't arguing until the 3rd point. And i don't care about alan sugar either. It's just that on the apprentice ppl call him lord sugar ennit blad (tho rly, it is upsetting u dont care about him :cry: ). I don't give a shit about good and bad, they don't actually exist. Just sayin, some people are pacifists, ppl who call their worldview peaceful are generally gonna fall into the pacifist group. However, sexism clearly pervades all of islam innnit
 

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Ofc religions are built on the idea of taking resources from ppl and keepin em subservient, just like all civilisation. I'm really not arguing for them dude
 

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I'm glad cognisant told me he was being sarcastic ennit blad. I aint know nothin about no god but i sure as charlotte am immune to irony.
Btw, my baseless premise was sarcasm too. I genuinely raised that point to a priest and the response was a confused jabbering that jesus is the lord, god the father. Hence, or ergo, if it'd please you so, my post served as anecdotal evidence to back up the christian dissonance immunity theory
 

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Its not just religion though. Its a belief as a whole. A lot of people believe a lot of nonsensical stuff and atheist included. The irony is that a lot of people act on these beliefs as if they are facts. Often times if you confront them with this observation they might genuinly think you are the stupid one.
 
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