Just saw it, great movie.
The first 2/3 of the movie is hard to watch but the ending is pure payoff.
After the movie a friend of mine remarked that I seemed quite uncomfortable through much of the movie and assumed I didn't like it whereas on the contrary I thought it was fantastic precisely because it made me so uncomfortable.
I'm glad I saw it and quite sure I'm never going to see it again.
I dont know if I really want to watch it. I know it has gotten some good reviews, but its probably one of those movies where a guy has a bad day and he breaks down and it goes all the way through the movie.
its good, but i still want to see Jim carrey play as Joker.
I have had trouble in making a final judgement about it. I think it stems from not knowing the intentions of the creators of the film. Should I see this as something purely observational, like something that could mirror reality, or are the writers trying to convey some sort of message. Likely it's a variation of both, but I can't parse when they are and are not. Depending on that, I either think this is a okay movie without a message, or a dangerous movie that's just trying to be edgy. Then there is always the cop out of "It's just a DC film setting up the universe" but it's impact is all the same.
I have had trouble in making a final judgement about it. I think it stems from not knowing the intentions of the creators of the film. Should I see this as something purely observational, like something that could mirror reality, or are the writers trying to convey some sort of message. Likely it's a variation of both, but I can't parse when they are and are not. Depending on that, I either think this is a okay movie without a message, or a dangerous movie that's just trying to be edgy. Then there is always the cop out of "It's just a DC film setting up the universe" but it's impact is all the same.
society and human nature create psychopaths and terrorists.
I have had trouble in making a final judgement about it. I think it stems from not knowing the intentions of the creators of the film. Should I see this as something purely observational, like something that could mirror reality, or are the writers trying to convey some sort of message. Likely it's a variation of both, but I can't parse when they are and are not. Depending on that, I either think this is a okay movie without a message, or a dangerous movie that's just trying to be edgy. Then there is always the cop out of "It's just a DC film setting up the universe" but it's impact is all the same.
society and human nature create psychopaths and terrorists.
There was a large group of police officers around when I had went, signaling the fact that the news climate has been tense in regards to the influence of mass media.
I either think this is aokay{Text}movie without a message, or a dangerous movie that's just trying to be edgy.
society and human nature create psychopaths and terrorists.
A publicity stunt? Orchestrated by whom? The "media?" I don't know what the media has to do with personal opinion but w/e. News outlets we're certain there would be at least one shooting, and decried the violence in this R rated film.
It depicts class struggle and mental illness, of course they would talk shit about it. The only other people shitting on it were huwite (probably upper class) reviewers or people that were upset with it's portrayal of race, illness and Joker's whiteness. It definitely exploits some of those things, but it does good by at least putting other themes in the forefront of pop-culture. I can be cynical too, but I don't think we should dismiss it on the grounds that everyone is trying to maximize profit.
I'm thinking that is my qualm with it. It's like a double edged sword if you ask me. It calls society out for marginalizing the mentally ill, but then again, the fucking Joker shouldn't be the poster child for the mentally ill, but then again it shows how someones thoughts and circumstance could lead one to do acts of violence, but then again (last time), Joker's intentions are not to be hailed as a figure head of a revolt, all his kills were on impulse. Not premeditated and attention seeking like all these shootings, but then (I lied) again it shows how those who are marginalized will gravitate to those that acknowledge and embrace them, it doesn't matter who they are, humans don't want to be alone.
In any case, Hollywood only cares about shit that will make them fucking bank.
If it's done well, I'd probably like it...but from the safety of my own abode, thank-you-very-much. There have been more shootings (than usual..) this last year or so, and there's already been a theater shooting with a crazy dressed as the joker, obviously claiming an identity with the character. I don't think a backstory that romanticizes the joker is a good campaign angle for mental-health-awareness. It's actually a terrible angle. Becoming a mass-murdered to express your pain is NOT a good message to send struggling people.
Pretty sick of the movie industry just paying for rights of already-popular-franchisees instead of using their money to produce new, creative ideas. Don't some people consider film an art?
fuck, so does watching hannibal makes you want to eat and cannibalize people? there are alot of movies potraying sick people and psychopaths.
the message is that there is something wrong with society rather than with individuals, which is open to debate.