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The Matrix Resurrections

Cognisant

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Making my predictions now.
  • Confident sassy blue haired chick is the new "the one" somehow.
  • Confident sassy blue haired chick will beat up a heap of white men.
  • Neo will pass the torch by saying "Being the one is like falling in love, nobody can tell you when you're the one, you just know you are".
  • Neo and Trinity get put on a bus, possibly killed off.
  • Everything that was achieved in the original trilogy will be rolled back, Zion either is or will be completely destroyed, the machines are back in total control and I bet they'll bring Smith back but probably in some way that doesn't involve Hugo Weaving playing him.
  • Despite the best efforts of Keanu Reeves to act out of it Neo will be written as an emasculated bitch who spends the entire movie just doing what he's told.
  • Critics will love it and fans will hate it.
Edit: I hope I'm wrong and the movie doesn't suck.
 

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Gee, I sure hope it doesn't end up like that. That'll make it just a reboot. I guess that might bring in new generations, but it will also shun the older. Then again, there wasn't that much to the matrix to begin with, so you're probably right lol. Maybe this should have spoiler tags :shut-mouth:
 

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One or both of the Wachowskis are on the record saying the Matrix is a metaphor for their struggle with their identities. If they want to follow that thread they can continue the allegory. I don't think they would compromise the story for that though. And eitherway, there is a whole arc where Neo transcends the matrix virtually and in reality so I don't know how much room that leaves for them unless them actually becoming trans has given them more material to add.

In either case, the only things the trailer suggests are character dynamics, cool action set pieces, and enticing curiosity for where the man vs machine plot line has gone.
 

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I'm not really interested in speculating what'll happen in a movie (or how good it will be) based on the trailers, as the ideas I form in my head end up clouding my judgment of the film when I actually see it. I agree with Rebel's last paragraph.

It'll be interesting seeing Reeves return to an older character in the wake of John Wick.

Ah, this is reminding me how long it's been since I've seen The Matrix... I should watch it again. Never seen the sequels (I heard they're not so good?).
 

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Matrix trilogy has one interesting movie and it's the first one, the following two movies are just action movies disguised in the world and ideas introduced by the innovative predecessor.

There is no chance that another innovative sequel to the Matrix will be made. It's already a miracle that the first one was philosophical and novel to the degree that it was. Modern cinema is either ambitious or it is mainstream, never both.

The 4th installment will simply reuse everything from the previous movies and spin it into another John Wick (Your Dad or You If You're a Dad, But Cooler) ---> Your Dad Wins heroic.

Modern visual culture loves two things, ungroomed middle-aged dads who exude testosterone and slutty femme fatales who are required to undress at some point.

Well, I don't care for action, latex and sex so I'm not hyped is all I'm saying.
 

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Matrix trilogy has one interesting movie and it's the first one, the following two movies are just action movies disguised in the world and ideas introduced by the innovative predecessor.

There is no chance that another innovative sequel to the Matrix will be made. It's already a miracle that the first one was philosophical and novel to the degree that it was. Modern cinema is either ambitious or it is mainstream, never both.

The 4th installment will simply reuse everything from the previous movies and spin it into another John Wick (Your Dad or You If You're a Dad, But Cooler) ---> Your Dad Wins heroic.

Modern visual culture loves two things, ungroomed middle-aged dads who exude testosterone and slutty femme fatales who are required to undress at some point.

Well, I don't care for action, latex and sex so I'm not hyped is all I'm saying.
Agreed, most sequels are made to follow a formulae established by its predecessors that are proven to make a return on the market. The cost of making films is a key artistic limitation, as you have to demonstrate your risky film idea is going to make a profit to mitigate the risk of investing in it. So of course the safer ideas get invested in and film, bar the rarer exceptions, gets stale and predictable. I really love classic cinema, it feels like something started changing in this direction around the 1980s.

In comparison take something like webcomics. A pair of friends can write and draw whatever they want at a cost that they can afford. So you can be as risky as your passion wants to be. If visual narrative was still my main interest, that’s probably where my attention would go. Or maybe gaming as while I imagine big studio stuff faces similar limitations there’s still a lot of unexplored narrative potential there and films a bit more exhausted in comparison.
 

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Seeing as the overall goal of the executives right now is probably reviving this IP into a cash-cow for years to come, you're probably right. Buuut I am holding out hope.

The latest iteration of James Bond started with a strong film (Casino Royal) and divulged into progressively more mainstream appeal movie after movie. But that's Bond, it has long been the expectation for Bond. This is the Matrix, and the "promises" the film series has made is that there is a large philosophical component to it, even if it is incomprehensible and poorly executed. I do think the most copout route it can take is the Marvel route, which is just create investments with characters and let their development be the big draw (excluding action).

I think that the directors/writers still have something interesting to say and that executives don't give a fuck because they know as long as they have super models, Keanue Reeves, and explosions people won't complain. Hollywood has learned from previous money grabs imo so eh, I'm not trying to convert your opinon, it's just too early to tell if it'll be bad or not. I'd be surprised if it was just straight up trash.

not disputing what is said about mainstream media being unable to produce original quality content, just concerning this project.
 

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The cost of making films is a key artistic limitation, as you have to demonstrate your risky film idea is going to make a profit to mitigate the risk of investing in it.
Making mainstream movies is a business venture, profit is the main goal any artistry only serves to maximize the revenue. Lots of market research and historic results all show that people want to see violence and sex on screen and this is what's going to net the most cash.

Most people don't want to see or are simply not ready to see anything that isn't action packed, visceral or entertaining so any ambitious or creative projects will never reach a mass market.
In comparison take something like webcomics. A pair of friends can write and draw whatever they want at a cost that they can afford. So you can be as risky as your passion wants to be.
Exactly, there are places where independent and small-scale visual or literary arts flourish and do have a small but sustainable following and it's a good thing that there are people who want something new or different and support these artists.
 

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fuck, they already messed up
 
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