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I saw one in maths yesterday. I could just feel his INTJness. He had eyes that pointed deeply inwards, yet far outwards; focused on the task at hand, but also on some larger, personal goal. He was direct, and srs-faced in communication, but would occassionally give a quick, devious smile when mentioning that he liked something. I'll keep my eye out for more.
 

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I am an INTJs I've randomly come across this form while searching the web. If you want to meet more INTJs online theres a forum made for INTJs and those how are interested in them.
- http://intjforum.com :kilroy:
 

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however, they may decide to interact with people who spark their interest.
Very true. I'm an INTJ female, and I only make friends with people who I don't think are idiots. In my opinion, that includes anyone who spares someone else's emotions just for feeling's sake, or considers emotions while making a decision, or acts like they're superior in any way (my first thought is, 'who the hell made you king?'). Personally I think I'm a bit far on the TJ side of the scale and so am overly logical and, well, judgmental, but that's okay.

But I rarely start conversations with strangers, and I think I'm pretty typical, so you'd definitely have to go searching for an INTJ. Also, systems are both intellectually fascinating and useful (mechanics, medicine, etc.) so maybe take a few classes of that sort. And if you say something friendly and optimistic to someone and they say something sarcastic and bitchy back to you - and generally act like an ass-hat with you from then on - they're probably an INTJ.
 

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My mother is an INTJ. We were both from deep bible country where thinking can get you burned at the stake.

We have intertaining conversations.
 

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I come from a culture where education is a given, and self-learning is pretty common. Most of my high school teachers had PhDs, mostly because for themselves, and not for a career. My biology teacher was giving us info that was waaaay beyond high school level. I reckon my older brother is an INTJ, and so is someone else I know.

Plenty on INTJf.

If you can, though, watch a few episodes of the TV series "Suits". Harvey Spector is a total INTJ, and an awesome one to boot. Here's a pic:

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You were an ENTP, no?I might be more of an INFJ but in my experience, INTJs and ENTPs don't mix very well. They sit on the opposite ends of the NT spectrum. INTJs already dislike the spontaneity and the "just like that" attitude of the INTPs but ultimately value their analytical abilities even though they would describe being with INTPs as "like herding cats".
When INTJs deal with ENTPs, they quickly realize that the things they like and dislike about INTPs are just worse with ENTPs.
Evil rumours. I'm an INTJ female and my boss is an ENTP and I'm truly humbled to be in his presence. I don't think I know any other ENTPs but just judging from this one, they have all the endearing traits of INTPs without being overly 'complex' or socially awkward. Actually, I find it easier to interact with my ENTP boss than with my INTP friend because my boss will readily play the extraverted part. With the INTP I have to iniate contact and act more extraverted than I am all the time and half the time I have to read his mind as well, because he won't tell me what's going on on his own planet :).

Dark, if you're looking for an INTJ female, you'd better take it easy and accidentally befriend her over a long time in a relaxed sort of way. Also, you should be sure whether you are looking for friendship or romance and shouldn't expect her to take a romantic interest in you just because she talked to you once or twice.
What your friend said about wearing a mask in public sounds familiar. I have a rigid separation between the private and public sphere. I might prance around the living room and be extremely silly and childish at home, but in public I try to be invisible and only talk to people if there is a clear purpose to the conversation (e.g. exchanging information, seeking advice etc).

Here are some things that don't go down with me very well:
  • direct interrogation about private matters, this includes perfectly innocent questions such as "What did you do at the weekend?" or "What's your favourite band?" or "What are your hobbies?". I usually drop enough hints about these things sooner or later and people can draw their own conclusions. E.g. if they see me carry my swimming kit around they are free to conclude that I must be into swimming. Or if they see me listen to some band on youtube, they can conclude that I like this band.
  • effusive compliments or overt idealization: these undermine my own insane standards for myself. If people need to compliment me, it helps if they can phrase it impersonally, e.g. "....someone like you...." rather than "YOU....!"
  • socialising for the sake of it and people trying to 'get to know me'. If I'm supposed to socialise with new people, there has to be some purpose to it, e.g. a games night is fine, because you can play games there. Meeting to catch up with what people have been up to is fine, as long as they say so. Socialising just for the sake of it because it's supposed to be nice just makes me cringe.
  • people calling me their "friend" when I've only just met them (note: "only just" can refer to several years depending on the context I know them from). This just scares me off because I think people will have unrealistic expectations of how much time I must spend with them or how much affection I must show. Once I've decided that I'm friends with someone I don't change my mind and the status of the friendship doesn't need to be discussed.
  • forcing me to take part into activities that I don't like. E.g. I'll go shopping, drinking or even clubbing with my ESFJ best friend. But she also goes to bookshops and cafes with me and lets me play computer games while she reads the newspaper. I'm quite willing to do things that my friends like, but if they never do anything that I like, it just breeds resentment.
Hum, dunno if all INTJs are like this, but I hope it helps.
 

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strangely enough i know 6 intj 4 are some of my closest freinds one is my brother and the last is my father.
 

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Dark, if you're looking for an INTJ female, you'd better take it easy and accidentally befriend her over a long time in a relaxed sort of way. Also, you should be sure whether you are looking for friendship or romance and shouldn't expect her to take a romantic interest in you just because she talked to you once or twice.
What your friend said about wearing a mask in public sounds familiar. I have a rigid separation between the private and public sphere. I might prance around the living room and be extremely silly and childish at home, but in public I try to be invisible and only talk to people if there is a clear purpose to the conversation (e.g. exchanging information, seeking advice etc).

Here are some things that don't go down with me very well:
  • direct interrogation about private matters, this includes perfectly innocent questions such as "What did you do at the weekend?" or "What's your favourite band?" or "What are your hobbies?". I usually drop enough hints about these things sooner or later and people can draw their own conclusions. E.g. if they see me carry my swimming kit around they are free to conclude that I must be into swimming. Or if they see me listen to some band on youtube, they can conclude that I like this band.
  • effusive compliments or overt idealization: these undermine my own insane standards for myself. If people need to compliment me, it helps if they can phrase it impersonally, e.g. "....someone like you...." rather than "YOU....!"
  • socialising for the sake of it and people trying to 'get to know me'. If I'm supposed to socialise with new people, there has to be some purpose to it, e.g. a games night is fine, because you can play games there. Meeting to catch up with what people have been up to is fine, as long as they say so. Socialising just for the sake of it because it's supposed to be nice just makes me cringe.
  • people calling me their "friend" when I've only just met them (note: "only just" can refer to several years depending on the context I know them from). This just scares me off because I think people will have unrealistic expectations of how much time I must spend with them or how much affection I must show. Once I've decided that I'm friends with someone I don't change my mind and the status of the friendship doesn't need to be discussed.
  • forcing me to take part into activities that I don't like. E.g. I'll go shopping, drinking or even clubbing with my ESFJ best friend. But she also goes to bookshops and cafes with me and lets me play computer games while she reads the newspaper. I'm quite willing to do things that my friends like, but if they never do anything that I like, it just breeds resentment.
Hum, dunno if all INTJs are like this, but I hope it helps.

I am an INTJ male. I must say, your being a tad bit zealous with your aversion to seemingly shallow interactions. Though, I do hate clubbing or any place where I can't talk over the background noise in order to have a conversation.
 

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I am an INTJ male. I must say, your being a tad bit zealous with your aversion to seemingly shallow interactions. Though, I do hate clubbing or any place where I can't talk over the background noise in order to have a conversation.
LOL, I'm exaggerating a bit here :) I can cope with seemingly shallow interactions well enough and I even enjoy them if it's on a 1:1 basis or in a small group. It's just that I work with children with special needs all day and after that I need a rest. Socialising isn't exactly a rest. By socialising I don't mean going out with people who already are your friends. I enjoy going out with my best friend just for a drink and a chat without any purpose. I mean going out with work colleagues etc. and having to say something "interesting" about yourself.
 

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LOL, I'm exaggerating a bit here :) I can cope with seemingly shallow interactions well enough and I even enjoy them if it's on a 1:1 basis or in a small group. It's just that I work with children with special needs all day and after that I need a rest. Socialising isn't exactly a rest. By socialising I don't mean going out with people who already are your friends. I enjoy going out with my best friend just for a drink and a chat without any purpose. I mean going out with work colleagues etc. and having to say something "interesting" about yourself.

I can see what you mean. Socializing with dull people is not enjoyable.

I have a problem where people want to have conversations (they initiate) but seemingly refuse to talk themselves. They want me to have a one sided conversation with them. It happened with a group of strangers on Saturday as well. I don't want to talk about myself. I find the topic of myself quite boring. I want to know about other people.

Being an evil INTJ, I am planning an office activity outside of work. Mainly because I think people don't interact with each other enough. People who work with people they know and like work more efficiently. It may also lead to them being more interesting.
 

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I can see what you mean. Socializing with dull people is not enjoyable.

I have a problem where people want to have conversations (they initiate) but seemingly refuse to talk themselves. They want me to have a one sided conversation with them. It happened with a group of strangers on Saturday as well. I don't want to talk about myself. I find the topic of myself quite boring. I want to know about other people.
LOL, I know what you mean. I don't find myself interesting at all, but other people seem to find every little thing I do fascinating.
Also, I don't like it when I've got some hobby that I pursue halfheartedly and people get really excited about it and are disappointed when they find out that I don't do it all the time.
Being an evil INTJ, I am planning an office activity outside of work. Mainly because I think people don't interact with each other enough. People who work with people they know and like work more efficiently. It may also lead to them being more interesting.
Sounds logical :) Strangely enough, when I'm in charge of a group of people I can slip into the role of social host quite easily.
 

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INTJ female here. The chamelon thing is really true... I can pretty much get along with anybody as long as we have a few things in common. Also what another INTJ girl said ^^^ up there is true to an extent... I hate talking about myself. I am also literally retarded when it comes to expressing/talking about emotions.

I'm actually pretty much in love with my INTP friend but I'm almost positive that he has no idea because I can't bring myself to tell him or even be touchy with him for that matter. My flirting skills are exactly ZERO.
 

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I'm actually pretty much in love with my INTP friend but I'm almost positive that he has no idea because I can't bring myself to tell him or even be touchy with him for that matter. My flirting skills are exactly ZERO.
He probably doesn't. If you inform him, matter of factly, and then give him time to process the matter, he can give you the answer.

Alternatively, you can observe him carefully. I certainly find that I give people breadcrumbs as to my feelings on matters. Those who are genuinely interested in my feelings, will able to fathom them, and those who aren't, will find they are not obvious enough that they can easily ignore them. I would not be surprised to find that he is similar in that regard.
 

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Most of my friends go to/went to digipen. It's a school filled with INTJ people. It's.. a spectacle, for sure.
 

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I've come across a lot more INTJs than INTPs. Actually a lot of female ones.
 

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An infantile unhealthy INTJ trying to dominate you might try manipulation of the law, bioterrorism, or getting at your emotions (which fails more often due to lack of genuine interpersonal understanding.) Another weak point is likely in the physical strength department.

INTJ is associated with strategic chess, they make skilled economists. You have to watch out if they're trying to rig your reality against you.
 

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INTJ is associated with strategic chess, they make skilled economists. You have to watch out if they're trying to rig your reality against you.

I can build very effective traps, using them to command the attention of those involved. It's a great way to express a warning, or just to get back at someone for pulling a pesky prank that I warranted a response to :D
 

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I must say I have fun talking to INxJs.
You obviously never had one in your family growing up.

On a side note, I've heard repeatedly from Math graduate students that Math professors tend to work out A LOT.
I WAS a Maths graduate, and I knew all the professors I had, over 20 of them. Not the ones in the UK, at least, not when I was in uni, in the early 90s. Lots of them were jazz musicians, though. They all used to play in the Maths department parties. Quite good as musicians.
 

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Israel is full of 'em.

I met 3 in the army, and my father.
Some are lazy, some are proud, some are wrathful, others just can't get enough of something - but in the end almost all of them are manipulators, especially when they don't have any status or power.

And yes they know how to blend in, in order to not stand out and reveal their plans.

My relationship with the 4 INTJ's:

my father - an ok relationship. normal father-son relationship. We sometimes talk about philosophical debates and watch action movies together. Conspiracy theories is also a good subject. Often he tries to manipulate me in order to do things, out of respect I sometimes comply, other times I choose not to - to not give him the feeling he has absolute power.

my friend - good relationship, we help each other where the other is weak. But we don't meet outside of army activitys. I help him with math, and he helps me with actually doing my ideas (like finding a job etc...). Though often he finds my ideas 'extreme', and I find his - 'obvious'.

a girl in my unit - knows how to get what she wants, and while everyone sees her as a dumb girl, i see her as a mastermind of army and bureaucratic manipulation. She doesn't stand out more than any of the other "dumb" soldiers surrounding her. My relationship with her is non-existant, she terrifies me.

Some guy that got released - my archenemy - I kept finding holes in his theories, and he kept declining my theories for being just "raw". He was a commander of sorts, and thus he didn't need much manipulation and we could actually see him standing out.
 

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Israel is full of 'em.
What about INTPs?

Frequency distributions of MBTI types, reveal that INTPs are twice as numerous as INTJs.

That in turn implies that in any environment with a high number of introverted rationals, the majority of them would be INTPs.

So, is Israel FULL of INTPs, and the INTPs easily outnumber the INTJs, by 2-to-1?
 

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Well, as far as female INTJ's go, my mother is one (my father is an ESFJ, it gets funny sometimes). I would agree with the statement that INTJ's are good at blending in and wearing a mask, as far as my experience goes. My mother has talked about how people at work have an entirely different view on her personality because she acts only in ways that she thinks is acceptable in a professional atmosphere. One of my very good friends is also an INTJ, and he has confessed that he purposefully wears a mask because he thinks that it is a more effective way of dealing with people.
 

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What about INTPs?

Frequency distributions of MBTI types, reveal that INTPs are twice as numerous as INTJs.

That in turn implies that in any environment with a high number of introverted rationals, the majority of them would be INTPs.

So, is Israel FULL of INTPs, and the INTPs easily outnumber the INTJs, by 2-to-1?

Frequency distributions of MBTI types usually relates to environments of their choosing - doesn't it? (rather than ANY environment like you proposed - just out of curiosity...)

I think culture changes the distributions quite a lot.

The army showed me a lot of variety of types and how each person with the same mbti personality are very different. But it failed to show me all of the types.

I've seen many many INTJs that go to area's they're best at and most interested in - Hi-Tech, Medics in the army (since there is drafting here, we have to "choose" a job to work at), Electronics and etc.

Up until today I haven't met any other INTP in Israel. And only one ENTP. Nobody shared my enthusiasm of ideas and logical depth - and thus I'm here, trying to socialize with "my kind" in order to compensate for the lack of it in the real world.

As far as frequency distribution goes in Israel it's quite the opposite, there's a ratio of 2-1 for INTJs, and they easily outnumber us.

If "us" even exist. Perhaps I'm the only INTP in Israel :eek:.
 

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My three best friends (at differing times in my life) have been INTP's. For being so rare, I can't help tripping over them.

I met my first INTJ girl last week. She was a Hooter's waitress.

I was having beer with some friends and she was our waitress and overheard us talking about Meyers- Briggs. She said she had just taken the test at school, but didn't really know what it meant for her. I gave her a "cold read" helped along by MBTI understanding, and her jaw dropped. I convinced her to change her major.

Although I am an INTP, I have been working hard at becoming a fake "J" by trying to devise lots of schemes to trap myself into staying focused and making decisions more quickly and decisively. I am fascinated by the "mastermind" style of the INTJ.
 

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well then, let's hope that if she actually does this that it doesn't turn out to be a mistake

When I say I convinced her to change her major, what I actually did was rattle off a list of jobs she might be good at, none of which her major would have led toward. She thought about it and said that she didn't feel comfortable on the path she was taking, and talking to me had convinced her that she needed to make a change.

I apologize if the way I told the story sounded self-aggrandizing, or that I have some sort of Rasputin quality to make people do my bidding.
 

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When I say I convinced her to change her major, what I actually did was rattle off a list of jobs she might be good at, none of which her major would have led toward. She thought about it and said that she didn't feel comfortable on the path she was taking, and talking to me had convinced her that she needed to make a change.

I apologize if the way I told the story sounded self-aggrandizing, or that I have some sort of Rasputin quality to make people do my bidding.

haha dw. was just thinking of a bad personal experience on my part
 

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The best thing about being INTJ is making INTPs nervous.
 

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The best thing about being an INTP is making INTJs mad.

This is where we have the perrenial discussion where INTP says INTJs want to prove them wrong whilst continually trying to run after and chase INTJs yadadadada-ad-infinitum.

Okay, lets just skip that discussion in favour of something more productive.

:rip:
 

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This is where we have the perrenial discussion where INTP says INTJs want to prove them wrong whilst continually trying to run after and chase INTJs yadadadada-ad-infinitum.

Okay, lets just skip that discussion in favour of something more productive.

:rip:

Yeah you're probably right we ought to...bag him boys, he's an INTJ through and through!
 

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Frequency distributions of MBTI types usually relates to environments of their choosing - doesn't it? (rather than ANY environment like you proposed - just out of curiosity...)

I think culture changes the distributions quite a lot.
I personally agree with you on that.

Studies found that Israeli kids are the most confident in the world. J-ness is associated with high levels of confidence. So I expect a lot more Js, there, and those who would be Ps in another country, would become weak Ps or weak Js, there.

On the other side, I've been there several times. Even lived there for a few years in my late teens and early 20s. I'm a very strong P. I found myself very much accepted there, much more than in the UK, or on the internet.

The army showed me a lot of variety of types and how each person with the same mbti personality are very different. But it failed to show me all of the types.
I had the option to go to the Israeli army. I declined. I have a lot of family and friends who went to the Israeli army, and so know a bit about it. I was concerned that my abilities would not be used for good reasons.

If other INTPs have come to the same conclusions, then INTPs may be under-represented in the Israeli army, and possibly all armed forces.

I've seen many many INTJs that go to area's they're best at and most interested in - Hi-Tech, Medics in the army (since there is drafting here, we have to "choose" a job to work at), Electronics and etc.
MY older brother was a medic in the Israeli army. He's an INTJ.

If "us" even exist. Perhaps I'm the only INTP in Israel :eek:.
Between 88-92, there was me as well. Also, I met a number of people there, who, on reflection, probably were INTPs. But things are so much more laid-back there, and people are often so supportive there, that the more obvious and negative of characteristics that are so often seen as indicators of INTP-ism, are not necessary, and so rarely seen.

Try a Yeshiva. I think you'll find lots.
 

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Dark said:
I know I fit some or most of the ENTP profiles but not all. I also noticed from reading most INTPs here fit the profiles of INTPs. But I also realize they are generalizations.

A real INTP wouldn't limit himself to the narrow strictures of a MBTI description. :D

A wise man once said, "I yam what I yam, and that's all that I yam", and I think that sums it up nicely.

According to Meyers-Briggs, I'm INTP. Usually. Though I'm really ANTP.

But when I look at WHO I AM--well, that's an entire set of encyclopedias. The test is just that--a test. A tool to give you insight into yourself, and a sort of shorthand for where you are on the big chessboard. Ask a gay or lesbian if their sexual orientation is their defining trait, and most of them will say no. It certainly carries weight, but it's not their entire truth. Take MB the same way.
 

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I never met one either. I saw them on Youtube and they kind of captivate me in a weird way. I really love hearing them talk, maybe its the inflection of their voice, the way they talk...Don't know. I never like seeing an INTP talk though, reminds me of how bad I am with it.
 

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Go to an engineering school and you will find them. Usually it attracts NT's of all sorts. One of my best friends is an INTJ, we get along quite well. Our interactions just range from sporadic text messages once or twice a week. Which I don't mind, and I prefer as I don't have to answer right away. Also it always something useful.

I would say my friend is a thesaurus of knowledge, and he is quite fun to listen to. The good thing is during the time we hang out together I am more or less a sounding board for him, which is great since I usually don't have a lot to say.
 

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A few INTJ women studying engineering PhD in the same office as I. They probe me. Ask me many questions about myself. o_O
 

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Is this an example of what some would call a thinly wielded brag? :) Sounds like good fun anyway, Proxy, unless they are looking at you as some kind of lab rat admired and studied for it's peculiar qualities/oddities (not the worst position to be in by any stretch). Can never be too careful with PhD women:kilroy:
 

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I'm 38 year old intj male I can tell you we tend to do things to blend in. There are 2 techniques I personally use, one of them I call the mirror technique, the other I call faking the E.

The mirror technique is generally for people I am interested in having some type of friendship with. I tend to emphasize things that I know that we both enjoy. And to mimic some of their behaviors. I find that this helps put people at ease to let us get to know each other. Overtime they discover my inherent intj characteristics.

The E faking technique is used for business purposes. I make a conscious effort to be extroverted for the purposes of obtaining clients and appearing to enjoy interacting with others. I call it business social.

I believe the sort of acting is something INTJ,s learn to do at an early age so that we can get along with our pears. It's probably one reason were hard to find. Most INTJs who I know, tend to know a number of others. We tend to flock do certain fields and activities.
 

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The E faking technique is used for business purposes. I make a conscious effort to be extroverted for the purposes of obtaining clients and appearing to enjoy interacting with others. I call it business social.

Ohh! I tried this but then it turned out everyone in the meeting was an INTJ. It was an extremely productive meeting. Very efficient once everyone figured out they did not want E fake.
 

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I'm a female INTJ. I work as a technical writer. But it doesn't really suit me. I get impatient with all the completer/finisher type tasks. I am thinking of moving into product management, which is more strategic. I don't have a lot of hobbies. But I do write books. My biggest passion is medieval history.

I find systems and processes extremely easy to understand (relative to most people I meet). I find systems fascinating and I love strategy. I got into the wars of the roses because the interpersonal interactions are strategic and manipulative and fascinate me.

I am very good at all forms of management, but I don't like it. I've been exceptionally successful in my field. I've won lots of awards. I'm literally in the top 1%. I also have a couple of patents.

I don't have loads of hobbies. For a while, I was trying to develop some to become more well-rounded but then accepted this is who I am. I read voraciously. I have two dogs. I do research as a hobby I guess, lol. B ut I am trying to get better at physical hobbies/do more. Health is important even though I find it hard to drag myself away from my work.

I love art, color, drawing with a computer, and visual things. I learn new software packages extremely quickly. I do illustrations in my computer manuals in Visio.

Re: wars of the roses
I don't particularly like military history per se. I'm not a guy, so I guess my InTJ traits have been "feminized". Eg if I was a guy, I'd probably love military history. But I find it overly masculine and alienating. If you read about it, there are no women so it is harder to relate to. Instead I gravitate towards trying to figure out mysteries and how personal interactions / court diplomacy sometimes by reverse engineering information.

I'm not into science - although if I'd had better teachers or a different intro to it, I am sure I'd like it if it was systemic. How things interconnect fascinate me.

I am not into romance novels or other mushy things. I like exciting stories better. My favorite shows are the Bbc Sherlock and Game of Thrones.

I spend a lot of time reading and writing. I was in the 90th percentile in mechanical reasoning in my IQ tests, so I find mechanical things easy and large systems delightful. Eg when I go into McDonalds,I study how they work behind the cash. I'd love a tour of a shipping port or airport.

I don't seek this information out though. It is hard to explain. Meaning the stereotype that INTJs only like science and tech doesn't apply in my case. I like them,but I have broad interests. Perhaps due to a very traditional upbringing, science never appealed early in life. Too masculine. Even though I begged my mom for Lego...

I'm very good at hiding my INTJ qualities though and trying to fit in. I make a effort to look good, bleach my hair, etc. I have friends. But I'm not married. I find it hard to meet people I relate to on a deeper level. I am not outgoing by nature. I live alone, which is usually okay. But i am lonely sometimes.

I think I have some "F" traits and interests, but "T" is my dominant function. I've been tested repeatedly.

I like economics. I dislike politics. I like things to neat, but I hate housework.

Re: meeting intjs
You won't run into me or others anywhere. I generally only go to work and the grocery store and over to the houses of close friends. I spend the rest of my time working on other personal projects. I work lots of overtime partially because I'm very driven to do the best I can.

I'd ike to start my own biz - and would like to be a novelist or writer full time. Not all novelists are "F"s btw.

I hope this helps. I have met very few female INTJs - even in high tech! I can tell you that I don't relate to most people and my female friends would tell you that I'm not like them.
 

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I'm female and tested as INTJ until my 30s. I do think that INTP fits me better, especially now, but my P/J scores are still very close to each other.

BTW, since INFJs were mentioned, that's what my husband is, and yes, that's rare in men, just like my type is rare in women. We are exceptionally compatible and have this almost spiritual connection that's unlike anything I've ever experienced with anyone else. We complement each other perfectly when it comes to strengths and weaknesses. And because we've both experienced similar strong criticism about not operating according to gender stereotypes, I think that makes it seem even more meaningful and rare.
 
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