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What MBTI do your relate to the most?

What MBTI/Congnitive function do you relate to the most?


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Chad

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basically there is no way to tell what type people claim to be on this forum (maybe there is but its not apparent to me.).

Therefore I desired to add a voluntary poll/thread were people can claim there typology.

I believe my self be be INTP

I have reason to believe that my personality leans Entp some times.

My cognitive function is Ti/Ne however the Ti an Ne flip very often.
 

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INFJ. Type can be listen on their Profile page, under "About Me".
And you can't flip functions. They are in a hierarchical order.

And your title is confusing. You are a type, or you are another type. I could say: I relate the most to INTP, but that wouldn't mean that I am an INTP. So your actual question is: "What is your personality type?" ?
 

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INFJ. Type can be listen on their Profile page, under "About Me".
And you can't flip functions. They are in a hierarchical order.

And your title is confusing. You are a type, or you are another type. I could say: I relate the most to INTP, but that wouldn't mean that I am an INTP. So your actual question is: "What is your personality type?" ?

No I actually mean what personality traits do you relate to. I don't think they are hierarchical at all (or at least very little) and I am open to the belief that some one may not fit completely into one classification. If you are not then that is fine you can classify yourself however you wish.

I do actually do mean What MBTI type do you Relate to the most.

Basically we are talking about someone personality here. Which is an actually thing exists inside are more complected Psyche. Therefore one can expect certain characteristic to exist if you were one type or another. Therefore you relate to the type. Not completely maybe but at least more then the other types. If the types didn't actually account for actual character advantages and flaws. Then they wouldn't be as useful.

Therefore Relate is good word to describe this.

I am not saying what other think of you I am saying what you relate to because no your personality and drives better than anyone else. Someone else may point you in the right direction but the final call is yours.

@own8ge to your credit I have never consider that you were an INTP even before I found out that you were a different type (INFJ).

You don't remind me of myself in ways that other people who claim to be INTP remind me of myself.
 

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I'm certain I'm an INTP when you put it all together, but Ti/Se are the TWO functions I relate to the most.

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@own8ge to your credit I have never consider that you were an INTP even before I found out that you were a different type (INFJ).

That is why self-assessment doesn't work. Besides, I relate to every single type. Relating to a type, comes with appreciation. I can appreciate every single person, and through my knowledge of Typology and my understanding of how we humans are all similar, I can actually relate to every single person. I do not avoid anyone, I do not prejudge anyone. I am utter fearless when it comes to humans.

To then now call out which type stands out, would make no sense. They are all equal. I relate to every single type as equally. Every single type reminds me of myself and any other human being.

And when it comes to personality traits... Traits are biased! So that doesn't make very much sense to me either. Only physiological traits aren't biased, as for such, is an objective methodology.
 

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I'm certain I'm an INTP when you put it all together, but Ti/Se are the TWO functions I relate to the most.

SW

I find the the cognitive functions open up a whole new world for me. While I am still certain that I am an INTP myself I can't deny that I am NeTi as well.

So when I looked up and studied ENTP a bit I realized that I am in some ways ENTP and INTP. I find that its close to a 55/45 INTP/ENTP split for me.

Then I started reading more of Jungs studies and I realized that he believed that most people were not E or I but somewhere balanced. These Bordline people actually make up the majority of the population according to Jungs.

This is why I believe that I am more exactly a XNTP then either an INTP and ENTP. Interestingly enough ENTP is the introverted of all Extroverted types. and I am more extroverted then most INTPs. However, there are quite a few ENTP traits that are more then foreign to me as well and for the most part I live like a stereotypical INTP with I very high N.
 

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That is why self-assessment doesn't work. Besides, I relate to every single type. Relating to a type, comes with appreciation. I can appreciate every single person, and through my knowledge of Typology and my understanding of how we humans are all similar, I can actually relate to every single person. I do not avoid anyone, I do not prejudge anyone. I am utter fearless when it comes to humans.

To then now call out which type stands out, would make no sense. They are all equal. I relate to every single type as equally. Every single type reminds me of myself and any other human being.

And when it comes to personality traits... Traits are biased! So that doesn't make very much sense to me either. Only physiological traits aren't biased, as for such, is an objective methodology.

Relating and appreciating are two different things. I can appreciate an athletes skills but I don't have anyway to relate to an athletes skills.

You believe self assessment doesn't work, I disagree, I believe it is the only valid assessment but it take work. Work that many people don't care to pursue. Basically you have to formalize your self with lots of information about each topic to be while weeding through all the garbage. Its not easy but it is possible and much more accurate then any other typing system. IMO

Basically your abstaining your opinion far enough this thread isn't for everyone.

I did say voluntary right.
 

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Ti/Ne/Te

edit: also why does the poll add up to 133.3%??
 

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Relating and appreciating are two different things. I can appreciate an athletes skills but I don't have anyway to relate to an athletes skills.

You believe self assessment doesn't work, I disagree, I believe it is the only valid assessment but it take work. Work that many people don't care to pursue. Basically you have to formalize your self with lots of information about each topic to be while weeding through all the garbage. Its not easy but it is possible and much more accurate then any other typing system. IMO

Basically your abstaining your opinion far enough this thread isn't for everyone.

I did say voluntary right.

Whatever Chad, I only tried to help you gain an understanding. Clearly you didn't interpret me as it was intended, or you refused to agree. Either way, it doesn't matter. My worldview on Typology is rather advanced whilst you submerge every typological principle there is. Now, I don't argue it to be bad to avoid agreeing with the current Typological understanding or principles. But whenever you disagree, do know that your calls will be made from the sidelines. If you disagree, and are not willing to agree on irrefutable principles, then I have no purpose for stopping the game I am in in order to hear a different perspective. If you are willing to argue, make sure that you fully defy the principles of typology of which you disagree with. If you don't clarify this, on a Typological discussion bias, your purpose for being here is rather insignificant.
 

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@Wolf18

Your Sherlock post made me think that you had a very strong TiSe. If that is means anything.

Sometimes I am wondering if Cognitive functions and MBTI are actually measuring the same components. Because like Jung I see the personality importance of Extroverts and Introverts. As this functionality can effect ones life greatly. However, Cognitive functions you internalize and externalize. Technically some one could be Te, Fe, Ne, Se and and still be an Introvert and visa/versa. These cognitive functions do very little to help explain the phenomenon of Introversion/Extroversion. In this way the can't actually completely replace MBTI or even Jungs three function characteristics. They really only halp father explain T/F and N/S functionality of personality types. IMO
 

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Whatever Chad, I only tried to help you gain an understanding. Clearly you didn't interpret me as it was intended, or you refused to agree. Either way, it doesn't matter. My worldview on Typology is rather advanced whilst you submerge every typological principle there is. Now, I don't argue it to be bad to avoid agreeing with the current Typological understanding or principles. But whenever you disagree, do know that your calls will be made from the sidelines. If you disagree, and are not willing to agree on irrefutable principles, then I have no purpose for stopping the game I am in in order to hear a different perspective. If you are willing to argue, make sure that you fully defy the principles of typology of which you disagree with. If you don't clarify this, on a Typological discussion bias, your purpose for being here is rather insignificant.

My purpose for being were?

My purpose for being on this forum is to discuses what ever I want with who ever wishes to discuss it.

My purpose on this thread is to poll people opinions. On what they believe there personality is. Based upon what personality type they relate to the most.

You might find this insignificant but like I said VOLUNTARY POLL/THREAD. It may be insignificant to you and you may not agree with it. Fine.

However, I find it amusing to understand were people believe there personality to be. I may or may not agree with them but I do believe that they are better at judging this for themselves then I am.

So, basically you are butting you nose into a Voluntary Poll/Thread that you don't agree with just to say that it is insignificant and you don't agree with it.

Why should your opinion matter this much?
 

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@Chad
No. Seemingly you can't seem to interpret me. I'll just leave this thread.
 

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Your Sherlock post made me think that you had a very strong TiSe. If that is means anything.

Here's the problem (in my eyes) with MBTI. S and N (and J and P to an extent) are not opposites. I see myself as having both Se and Ne, and approximately the same amount. The reason why I tend to lean toward Ne on tests is because I prefer theories to factual discussions. I also have some Se tendencies (i.e. boredom) that do not often come up on personality tests; they more often come up on personality disorder tests.

SW
 

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Here's the problem (in my eyes) with MBTI. S and N (and J and P to an extent) are not opposites. I see myself as having both Se and Ne, and approximately the same amount. The reason why I tend to lean toward Ne on tests is because I prefer theories to factual discussions. I also have some Se tendencies (i.e. boredom) that do not often come up on personality tests; they more often come up on personality disorder tests.

SW


Boredom is commonly associated with Ne too. Well at least the fact that you hate to be bored and being bored is a bad experience. However, Ne can lead to a more active imaginary world but sometimes you do still get stuck in the real world and you can still suffer form boredom quite easily.

For me I get bored when I am waiting for people for this reason I hate to wait on other people even if its just 5 minutes it feel like hell to me..
 

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Ne is boredom? rly?

Ne is hatred of boredom. Boredom comes no matter what. If you never get bored I count you fortunate.

I normally get bored with a subject or bored waiting for something or someone. Normally if something requires me to be focused on a task at hand I can get bored quite easily.

Left to my own advices it is much less likely to happen. However, I don't actually live in my own little world no matter how much I want to.

Therefore yes boredom still exists.
 

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1.ENTP - easily most compatible,
2.INTP - same people
3.ISTP - similar but more "normal"
4.ENTJ - enjoy their ruthlessness and order(intp shadow functions)
5.INFJ - beneficial relationship
 

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Ne is hatred of boredom. Boredom comes no matter what. If you never get bored I count you fortunate.

I normally get bored with a subject or bored waiting for something or someone. Normally if something requires me to be focused on a task at hand I can get bored quite easily.

Left to my own advices it is much less likely to happen. However, I don't actually live in my own little world no matter how much I want to.

Therefore yes boredom still exists.

Yes, I think I am still an INTP. When it is quiet and there is no one bothering me, I can avoid being bored for a time by thinking. However, this rarely lasts for a long time, and it is rarely quiet enough.

Funny though, my ENTJ mum has never experienced boredom. She's always in a good mood... odd.

I have to ask, is being bored a neutral/not bad experience for any type?

SW
 

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Ti/Ne/Te

edit: also why does the poll add up to 133.3%??

Because you can pick multiple answers. It's obviously calculating based on the number of responses available, not taking into account people can vote for more than one response.

Alternately.... spoooooooooky....!! :eek: :phear:

You can place in multiple types.

Oh damn... I'm late to the party again. :(
 

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Uh...

I selected ESFJ/ISTP/ENTJ.

Maybe I'm taking it a little out of context, but I actually find it quite easy to relate to ESFJ's. In the sense that they are sort of like a mirror to an INTP. Even though I don't engage my Fe as much as an ESFJ probably does, it is still there, and it can be very passionate/volatile. In that sense I can still relate to the ESFJ desire for order/affirmation/harmony, regardless of whether I like it or not majority of the time.

I think that's sort of the same way I relate to ENTJ, it's sort of a 'psychic inversion' where they have T, N, S and F in the same order in their stack, but all functions are flipped in their orientation. Te, Ni, Se, Fi as opposed to Ti, Ne, Si, Fe.

Lastly ISTP's as the other Ti-Dom.
 

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I like it better around here when people are arguing - I guess that's the calling card of one who's Fe suppresses Ti???

I picked every type that I could possibly be. ISTP, INTP, ISFJ, ESTP, INFJ

Also, @Chad, what the hell man! Are you actually trying to learn about typology or are you trying to make other people see it your way? I doubt you even read his posts. You seem to have an affinity for touting your age/wisdom/experience/observations while totally ignoring anybody that you perceive to be arguing, making off-topic generalizations and trying to garner public suppourt.

Also also, Ne and Se can't really be used simultaneously. I'm not just saying that because it's obligatory for MBTI to work - I'm saying it because they are both perceiving functions and they are activated in very different ways by the brain. They contradict each other.

The way I see it, Ne overrides Se. If you perceive via Ne then you are using Ne; Se can't be activated because the description is not satisfied (i.e. requires focus, localization).

The information gathered via Ne has to be filtered or it is useless. It does not discriminate in the connections it makes; it's like a flashlight in the dark: it just shines light on everything.

Ti still needs to decide if the perceptions are logical or if they are to be discarded, Si operating in the background discerning which perceptions have been categorized already and which perceptions are novel. Ti processing accepts these distinctions in a concrete way from Si, and is free to pass judgement based on the sensory information provided.

Se, on the other hand, is focusing on concrete details in the environment. It is perception directly generated by raw sensory data: unadulterated. It is more powerful in that regard, where perceiving data is concerned. Se is backed by Ni in the same way that Ne is backed by Si: Ni readily discerns which perceptions are meaningful by extrapolating potential variables and their outcomes. Like Si, Ni recognizes what has been seen before, but it does so in an abstract way, foreseeing potential implications, end scenarios, obstacles, etc... this is fundamentally different from the way Ne sees the same conclusions.

Both forms of intuition require sensory data to operate.
 

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edit: actually, I would have to agree with this...

care to elaborate? wanna see if we arrive there by the same route.

some of the most thoughtful/humble/aware people i know are ISTP. not sure if i can picture myself as one but they add up somehow.
 

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care to elaborate? wanna see if we arrive there by the same route.

some of the most thoughtful/humble/aware people i know are ISTP. not sure if i can picture myself as one but they add up somehow.

I would also like to know. FiNe doesn't seem to belong with the others in the list.

The Fi/Te Ti/Fe axis should be readily discernible by nearly anybody.

How did you conclude that it is even an option if you are considering the other types?
Please don't tell me it's via the MBTi approach where you're "pretty sure you're I, pretty sure you're N, pretty sure you're P", but can't tell whether you have a preference for F or T.
 

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Please don't tell me[/B] it's via the MBTi approach where you're "pretty sure you're I, pretty sure you're N, pretty sure you're P", but can't tell whether you have a preference for F or T.[/SPOILER]

what i sit around and do all day is either a thinking that approximates feeling - through a logical basis for a final judgment that somehow bypasses the neutrality criterion and anchors heavily in aesthetics, morality etc - or a very verbalized/rationalized/apologetic feeling.

also, i frequently show signs of inferior Fe AND of inferior Te. i disproportionately apply sympathy in a rather immature fashion AND i make fuck-ups by overlooking crucial details in forced attempts to be of practical use. it's not that i don't understand that J/P is a regulatory variable - it's that i have trouble classifying my own cognitive process.
 

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what i sit around and do all day is either a thinking that approximates feeling - through a rational basis for a final judgment that somehow bypasses the neutrality criterion and anchors heavily in aesthetics, morality etc - or a very verbalized/rationalized/apologetic feeling.

Eloquent.


also, i frequently show signs of inferior Fe AND of inferior Te. i disproportionately apply sympathy in a rather immature fashion AND i make fuck-ups by overlooking crucial details in a forced attempt to be of practical use. it's not that i don't understand that J/P is a regulatory variable - it's that i have trouble classifying my own cognitive process.

True. An observation I have made is that typing should be performed via a bottom-up approach, that is to say one should identify these (F/T) axes first, and consider the comparative relationships afterward. It's a no-bull approach. If you play the MBTI game you might find yourself running in circles.

The fact that you can so articulate the basis of judgement to be based on a rational interpretation of inner morals tells me, on an impulse, that Fi is high-up in your processing.

Your perceived use of Fe could be your interpretations of your own behaviour, which may appear to be Fe but might actually be morally-driven Te?
 

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The fact that you can so articulate the basis of judgement to be based on a rational interpretation of inner morals tells me, on an impulse, that Fi is high-up in your processing.

Your perceived use of Fe could be your interpretations of your own behaviour, which may appear to be Fe but might actually be morally-driven Te?

yeah but it goes the other way too. if the Te could be morally-driven, couldn't the Fe be rationally driven? and as said, the dominant could be a Ti approaching Fi.

identifying axes is also playing the MBTI game, i reckon. i consider the functional stack when trying to determine type so it's not just being fooled by the testing format.
 

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Yes I believe Fe is rationally driven. Fe is expressed outwardly and often thought of as the outer reflection of Ti when it is not processing inwardly. It's a cycle of neutrality and expression.

I find this to be in accordance with the standing observation that Te is morally driven by Fi.
 

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care to elaborate? wanna see if we arrive there by the same route.

some of the most thoughtful/humble/aware people i know are ISTP. not sure if i can picture myself as one but they add up somehow.

I'm not really sure but I have met people of these types that I related to in type-specific ways, hard to pin point just exactly what it was... Inferior-related struggles etc
 
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I'll be quite honest-- I don't know very much about personality typing and the whole "Ti/Ne" thing. I admit my ignorance there.

What I do know is that I repeatedly test as an INTP and my friends who are psychologists and/or counselors have also pegged me as an INTP. I've read the descriptions with the strengths and weaknesses listed and I have to admit that I am a pretty textbook INTP. I do talk quite a bit, though, so I know that's a bit atypical.
 

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Yes I believe Fe is rationally driven. Fe is expressed outwardly and often thought of as the outer reflection of Ti when it is not processing inwardly. It's a cycle of neutrality and expression.

I find this to be in accordance with the standing observation that Te is morally driven by Fi.

yes, but how do you conclude that I'm Fi-Te rather than Ti-Fe? the signs i related were rather ambiguous, right?
 

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Wrong. You explicitly stated that your judgements bypass the neutrality criterion and are firmly anchored in your morality.

You said that your feelings are often rationalized or apologetic, to me this has more of a sense that you understand when you've violated your inner code and are eager to make amends in that regard.

You seem to entertain the idea that Ti approaches Fi, so I can stay open minded in that regard, but I believe that Ti and Fi are fundamentally different processes that hardly encroach on each other. It still sounds like you're clinging to MBTI dichotomies.
 

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Wrong. You explicitly stated that your judgements bypass the neutrality criterion and are firmly anchored in your morality.

You said that your feelings are often rationalized or apologetic, to me this has more of a sense that you understand when you've violated your inner code and are eager to make amends in that regard.

You seem to entertain the idea that Ti approaches Fi, so I can stay open minded in that regard, but I believe that Ti and Fi are fundamentally different processes that hardly encroach on each other. It still sounds like you're clinging to MBTI dichotomies.

what you're saying makes sense. however i described both dominant and inferior as being some intersection between thinking and feeling. even if F and T are fundamentally different processes, whatever i use can be interpreted both ways.

you say a rationalized feeling implies Fi-Te, but it might as well imply a deeply inferior Fe that needs Ti parsing to be accessible.
 

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I don't know much except that Ti has to be in my top 2 functions and I get along really well with NIs for some reason.
 
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