strong intuitive feelings about shifts in the worlds dichotomy

[Nick]

Taking in so much information on a daily basis, as we intps love the internet and all things shiny and new, our subconscious seems to be running faster and faster.

The way people interact after the way the world spins in a certain way.
Maybe its just my feelings being projected upon the larger stage I live in.

But I like to believe, us, more than any other type, can feel/rationalize in an unexplainable way, that change is around the corner.

I hate not knowing what causes this feeling, but I do like to think its a combination of all small little things we notice, compounded together into some much larger universal equation mechanism stored away in the pineal gland (my studybuddy had her A&P test today, so that egyptian eye shaped monster is stuck in my head)/mind.

Like most other posts, this one makes little sense but yearns for a comparison or compassion.

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

Yep, a little too vague for my taste,
i seriously have no idea what you are trying to get across.

The way people interact after the way the world spins in a certain way.

Do you mean people being affected by their (natural and artificial) environment and vice versa?

I get the feeling you are trying to express something about technology and civilization, but i'm not sure as to what precisely is the point.

In this new environment, simulations will almost certainly be much like "reality" and reality will develop many of the qualities of a virtual environment.
The material world will begin to seem less substantial, and more like an environment of images that is open to our manipulations.
The elements of our surroundings will be ephemeralized:
they will be lighter, miniaturized, more pliable and pervaded by responsive computers, so our environment seems less like matter and more like an extension of the mind that controls it.
Our surroundings will include simulations of space in the form of video screens and images, with which we will communicate with the world;
it will come to include computers that simulate human responses, and technologies that turn the environment into an extension of our will.
All of this, of course, is to some degree, already taking place.
This artificial environment will be the ultimate extension of the progress of civilization.
Civilization, after all, has always been about using nature as a raw material to create products and an environment that expands our safety, our comfort and our possibilities.
Inside this new kind of environment, an effort will be made, not only for machines to do everything for us, but also to bring everything to us, with transportation, communications and simulation.
In effect, this artificial environment will be modeled after the buffet, in which all the world is laid before us for our choosing.
Television, grocery stores, newspapers, malls, theme parks, encyclopedias, art museums, and so on, all carry out this basic function, offering us collections of information, fantasies, food, products and culture, from many places.
The occupant of the automated house, able to see everything; communicate with everyone; order or invent anything, all from a computer screen, is the ultimate extension of these new abilities.
This new environment will vastly extend our power -- so long as we control it -- but we will also have to depend on it, and we will find ourselves living inside it.
Hence, the dual image, in which technology becomes both a form of power, and a potential prison.
We can foresee many of the opportunities and dangers in this new society by looking at science fiction -- including the science fiction found in theme parks, video games and virtual realities -- which reveals what is on the collective mind of contemporary culture when it comes to the subject of technology.
In one of science fiction's most frequently repeated warnings, it portrays these automated environments of the future as infantilizing their inhabitants by constantly catering to them, inducing a set of characteristics commonly associated with narcissistic personalities.
Humanity, or a race much like our own, is shown becoming helpless and both practically and emotionally dependent on simulation and technology.
Not infrequently, these same technologies are depicted as trapping humanity in an artificial world in which people are isolated from nature and from the natural process of birth, aging and death.

from

The Age of Simulation - Phony Transcendence in an Age of Media, Computers and Fabricated Environments
http://www.transparencynow.com/tablesim.htm

Also, an excellent read on the topic:

Technics and Civilization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technics_and_Civilization
The Myth of the Machine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_the_MachinePreferably
Read the last two items in succession.

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

nothing?

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Do you mean the feeling that something will be, will happen, to a certainty, similar to a judgement or a premonition that seems true about the future?

I'm not sure about how INTP's feel or think, as they are likely very different in their patterns and associations.

I have feelings and correct (verified as true in the future relative to the occurence of the feeling) prejudice about the future that manifests in potentials. Some ideas are plain and simple, self-explanatory and relatively brighter as these are more likely to happen than others. Other futures require much more thought, establishing truths, facts and explanations to make them functional and logical, to make them serve the role.

 

[Anktark]

Just a guess, but is OP trying to say that s/he sees (parts of) the world as some kind of Rube Goldberg's machine in action; seeing which and how different parts effect each other, seeing a couple of the links in the machine ahead, but not knowing what the end result will be produced, just that something is going to be changed- like reading a run on sentence: you start seeing a word or two ahead before you are done reading current one and start getting an idea about where this is all going, but still not seeing the big picture in full resolution, instead just discovering patterns repeating everywhere on different scales ad nauseam faster and faster until you have to "catch a breath" in your mind and... Dance?

 

[Black Rose]

for some time i have speculated of the higher dimensional thinking beings who because of the internet can accumulate information at such a fast rate that it is indeed a biological intelligence explosion facilitated by google spiders and forum. i myself have had moments of awakening and synchronicity where everything unfolded in on itself and was undeniably being guided by some intelligence not my own.

http://www.kurzweilai.net/forums/topic/my-newest-ai-theory-new-and-improved-version-something-1

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

yeah, fuck off on your dreams, welcome to reality.

 

[StevenM]

fuck your dreams! welcome to reality.

Sensor Alert!

 

[Black Rose]

Sensor Alert!

tell me more?

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

Okay, is there anything substantial to this?

 

[BrainVessel]

Okay, is there anything substantial to this?

Aw you don't have to talk about yourself that way you just have to WANT to change.

 

[Black Rose]

Okay, is there anything substantial to this?

it is my personal experience so not something that can be tested only it is within the scope of accumulation that convergence leads to possibilities not comprehensible to a person that is out of touch with intuition

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

it is my personal experience so not something that can be tested only it is within the scope of accumulation that convergence leads to possibilities not comprehensible to a person that is out of touch with intuition

In my personal experience: just have something fucking substantial to contribute to the topic or gtfo.

 

[BrainVessel]

In my personal experience: just have something fucking substantial to contribute to the topic or gtfo.

Hypocrite much?

 

[Black Rose]

In my personal experience: just have something fucking substantial to contribute to the topic or gtfo.

why?
what you think is reverent is not the standard of relevance
what i said was relevant

 

[Black Rose]

Some people who develop certain abilities are able to flow through the data streams and affect society at large. Memes when activated control the subconscious and with this control is the ability to know how the ripples will emerge. Artificial intelligence can also sift through these trails we leave behind but some people are able to do so just as precisely by being in resonance with the system. Artificial intelligence might compete with such people for control but they are elusive and the social dynamic gravitates toward them and also how groups can create such vortex as well.

 

[computerhxr]

The rational box vs. irrational box. Both are in-the-box thinkers that have little concept of the other side. Lack of experience and understanding is poor model of reality.

 

[computerhxr]

Hypocrite much?

Exactly!

The other side never see the folly in their ways. They see the world with one eye, so their vision has no depth perception. One-dimensional thinking in an omni-dimensional universe of singularity.



We've all been there, but the challenge is getting through to the majority. Most are followers; few are leaders.