nerd866
Redshirt
Hey everyone,
I just found this forum recently and this is my first post. I'll try not to overload with excessive amounts of text, but we'll see what happens!
Brief background - I'm 28, male, Canadian. Just finished school and working in software.
I've been familiar with MBTI on a basic level for quite a few years. I tend to score INTP more often than not.
Here is a breakdown of the last 15 MBTI tests I've taken in recent years:
2012 with my school: INTP, by a fair margin.
June 2014 until yesterday:
6 x INTP
4 x INFP
1 x INFJ
1 x INTJ
1 x ENTP
1 x INTx (50/50 P / J)
Therefore 7 of my last 15 tests have resulted in INTP.
My question though is, do you, perhaps, feel that I'm more of an INxx? Or maybe something else?
On average, my MBTI scores break down as such:
I:75%, E:25% || N:65%, S:35% || T:55%, F:45% || P:65%, J:35%
I'm not strongly INTP, as the percentages show. Next, I'll break down each letter so maybe you can understand why these score are the way there are.
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Breakdown by letter:
The "I", I tend to strongly agree with.
- I enjoy small groups in moderation.
- Large groups and crowds drive me insane unless I called them there for a specific purpose. It will still drive me insane if I can't control said group...and I don't like controlling people.
- I find large groups tend to talk about mindlessly boring topics (TV, movies, current events) all night, which after a couple of minutes, I'm just done with.
- I'm happy in 1-on-1 conversations with close friends as long as the conversation goes in a direction that has some kind of purpose.
- A conversation needs to grow, evolve or have direction or I'll just consider it pointless, boring and not worth my time.
- Overall, it's pretty clear to me that I highly value my alone time. I need a lot of it to wind down after big gatherings.
- I avoid large parties whenever possible.
- I hate networking.
- I can hang out on my own and work on personal projects for 16 hours a day if the world will let me.
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"N" I'm not quite so sure on but I see its merit.
These are the ways I strongly associate with "N" traits:
- I tend to deal with concepts and big picture MUCH more comfortably than I deal with minutia and specifics. This it why I would have been a terrible engineer. Building codes and such things would annoy me deeply.
- There typically becomes a point where the details become uncomfortable for me and I wish I had a friend who was detail-oriented to help me finish the thing.
- I don't tend to rely on history or past events to make decisions.
- I tend to see the world as complex and full of factors beyond strict-hard measurement.
Therefore, I don't trust that a situation will play out again the same way and I put more weight on analysis and prediction of the situation at hand, versus recalling past experiences.
- I don't tend to notice minor details. I'll forget how something looked once I walk away. I can't draw anything from memory accurately at all.
But here's where it gets tricky. I also am a rather sensual person:
- I love music. I'm am amateur music composer, placing emphasis on depth and quality of my music.
- I'm somewhat big into home theatre / presentation of media. I value the improved sensation in the moment of taking in an epic presentation.
- I'm a bit touchy-feely when it comes to relationships. Not "clingy" but I enjoy physical contact with my partner.
-Overall, I think my desire to deal with concept and general "big picture" stuff outweighs the relatively superficial enjoyment I get from beautiful music, etc.
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I feel I use a significant amount of "T"...
- I ALWAYS have a personal project going on and a list of future projects longer than I'll be able to finish in a lifetime.
- I'd much rather watch a documentary or read an article than watch a fictional TV series or fictional book.
- I'll make important decisions based on calculated statistical likely results of the decision. I'm slow and deliberate when it matters, in cases such as what to major in, when to buy a house, how likely a relationship is to work out, who to remain friends with, etc.
- I live life based on priorities. If it's not important, I either unconsciously don't remember it, have no interest in it or don't give it a significant amount of my time.
("Important" is relative to my interests and values, so "important" simply refers to "important to my mind and sanity".)
- I'm typically able to shift my persona a bit to fit well into the group I'm in at the time. I can do this as long as the group isn't perceived as a threat to me, in which case I'll be as diplomatic as possible and get the hell out of there!
- I don't normally do good deeds for random people - I never know what will come of it. I might have just made the world worse by helping the wrong person. I'd rather take the sure route with my time and do whatever task I'm currently working on, which I'm doing because I feel it'll make the world better.
- I sometimes have trouble understanding people who make decisions simply because it's "what good citizens do". I'm a bit distant from society in that sense. I'll make decisions that have a clear effect. If I can't perceive the effect of my action, I probably won't give it much thought.
- I tend to take the attitude of "there are a lot of Feelers in this world who WILL stop and help that random stranger and they'll be better at it than I'll be because I'll just do it begrudgingly". So I wait and let them do it unless there's no other choice. :P
But then the "F" side kicks in and this happens:
- I'll take on tasks for the sake of seeing people I care about be happy because I just think that would be awesome to see.
I don't do this all the time, but I definitely have my moments!
- I'm very diplomatic and not typically seen as "cold".
- My mood tends to match the mood of the group I'm in. If everyone's happy and willing to accept me being happy, I'm more likely to be happy, warm and cheerful. If everyone's blah, I am effectively incapable of cheering up a group. I thrive off positive emotions around me.
- I won't shake up a conversation just for the sake of messing with people and getting them to talk. I'm more reserved than that.
- I'm quick to notice when an action I've taken is not meshing well with the group I'm in and I'll adjust my actions accordingly so I don't rock the boat. Quite often this just means being more silent because what I look for in a group isn't typically why everyone else is there.
- If I have an opinion that is unlikely to be popular, I'm hesitant to reveal it unless I'm in a very small, close-knit group where I know I'll have the chance to explain myself without getting cut off. In this sense, my social image is somewhat important to me, I suppose.
- I'll drop everything to help out a friend if it's important to them...but it needs to be important. Don't ask me to pick you up so you can go shoe shopping unless your dog ate your only good shoes and you have an interview tomorrow and the store closes in half an hour.
- I'm an extremely loyal friend to those who prove themselves to be worth my time and energy. There aren't many of these in my life, but I'll stay up all night with them on a work night to talk through their problems if they want me to.
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"J" versus "P":
- For this one, I mainly use the fact that I tend to start a lot of tasks but finish very few of them.
- The grunt work involved in completing the mindless parts of a project are incredibly draining and I have no interest in doing them. I only do them when I'm so motived to see a project become finished that I have no choice.
- I prefer to synthesize and process ideas more than learn and practice "hard skills".
- I'm indecisive when a lack of information is available and I suck at making decisions when the outcome is trivial (where to have dinner, what to do this evening, etc.).
So why do I get so many "J" results?
Because a good portion of my free time is spent, not purely gathering information but processing and seeing what I can do with it.
I feel like there are two kinds of knowledge:
1) The kind that I pick up because it's intrinsically interesting and fulfilling to look more into on its own.
Examples include such things as:
- Why do people do what they do?
- The fate of the universe
- Developments in science and technology
- Philosophy
- What do people find fun or engaging? Why?
- Why does music do what it does to people? How can I utilize this?
- etc.
2) Supporting knowledge.
This is the kind of knowledge that is required to assist with the understanding of Type 1 knowledge or bring a task to life.
This knowledge isn't typically interesting on its own (at least to me), but is vital for helping process more interesting data and turning it into something useful and fulfilling.
Example include everything from:
- Knowing how to hold a pair of scissors
- Basic math skills
- Music theory
- How to program in Java
- How to use Photoshop
- What year was Jesus supposedly born?
- How fast is the CPU inside a Nexus 5?
As you can see, this type of knowledge includes many hard skills and details that are used to fill in the "generalization" gaps in Type 1 knowledge.
I don't do projects because the grunt work is necessarily inherently interesting. I do them as a means to an end - to achieve the fulfillment that comes from the results of the project.
That's why I lean more towards "P" than "J" for my type.
INTP? What do you think?
I just found this forum recently and this is my first post. I'll try not to overload with excessive amounts of text, but we'll see what happens!
Brief background - I'm 28, male, Canadian. Just finished school and working in software.
I've been familiar with MBTI on a basic level for quite a few years. I tend to score INTP more often than not.
Here is a breakdown of the last 15 MBTI tests I've taken in recent years:
2012 with my school: INTP, by a fair margin.
June 2014 until yesterday:
6 x INTP
4 x INFP
1 x INFJ
1 x INTJ
1 x ENTP
1 x INTx (50/50 P / J)
Therefore 7 of my last 15 tests have resulted in INTP.
My question though is, do you, perhaps, feel that I'm more of an INxx? Or maybe something else?
On average, my MBTI scores break down as such:
I:75%, E:25% || N:65%, S:35% || T:55%, F:45% || P:65%, J:35%
I'm not strongly INTP, as the percentages show. Next, I'll break down each letter so maybe you can understand why these score are the way there are.
---------------------------------
Breakdown by letter:
The "I", I tend to strongly agree with.
- I enjoy small groups in moderation.
- Large groups and crowds drive me insane unless I called them there for a specific purpose. It will still drive me insane if I can't control said group...and I don't like controlling people.
- I find large groups tend to talk about mindlessly boring topics (TV, movies, current events) all night, which after a couple of minutes, I'm just done with.
- I'm happy in 1-on-1 conversations with close friends as long as the conversation goes in a direction that has some kind of purpose.
- A conversation needs to grow, evolve or have direction or I'll just consider it pointless, boring and not worth my time.
- Overall, it's pretty clear to me that I highly value my alone time. I need a lot of it to wind down after big gatherings.
- I avoid large parties whenever possible.
- I hate networking.
- I can hang out on my own and work on personal projects for 16 hours a day if the world will let me.
---------------------------------
"N" I'm not quite so sure on but I see its merit.
These are the ways I strongly associate with "N" traits:
- I tend to deal with concepts and big picture MUCH more comfortably than I deal with minutia and specifics. This it why I would have been a terrible engineer. Building codes and such things would annoy me deeply.
- There typically becomes a point where the details become uncomfortable for me and I wish I had a friend who was detail-oriented to help me finish the thing.
- I don't tend to rely on history or past events to make decisions.
- I tend to see the world as complex and full of factors beyond strict-hard measurement.
Therefore, I don't trust that a situation will play out again the same way and I put more weight on analysis and prediction of the situation at hand, versus recalling past experiences.
- I don't tend to notice minor details. I'll forget how something looked once I walk away. I can't draw anything from memory accurately at all.
But here's where it gets tricky. I also am a rather sensual person:
- I love music. I'm am amateur music composer, placing emphasis on depth and quality of my music.
- I'm somewhat big into home theatre / presentation of media. I value the improved sensation in the moment of taking in an epic presentation.
- I'm a bit touchy-feely when it comes to relationships. Not "clingy" but I enjoy physical contact with my partner.
-Overall, I think my desire to deal with concept and general "big picture" stuff outweighs the relatively superficial enjoyment I get from beautiful music, etc.
---------------------------------
I feel I use a significant amount of "T"...
- I ALWAYS have a personal project going on and a list of future projects longer than I'll be able to finish in a lifetime.
- I'd much rather watch a documentary or read an article than watch a fictional TV series or fictional book.
- I'll make important decisions based on calculated statistical likely results of the decision. I'm slow and deliberate when it matters, in cases such as what to major in, when to buy a house, how likely a relationship is to work out, who to remain friends with, etc.
- I live life based on priorities. If it's not important, I either unconsciously don't remember it, have no interest in it or don't give it a significant amount of my time.
("Important" is relative to my interests and values, so "important" simply refers to "important to my mind and sanity".)
- I'm typically able to shift my persona a bit to fit well into the group I'm in at the time. I can do this as long as the group isn't perceived as a threat to me, in which case I'll be as diplomatic as possible and get the hell out of there!
- I don't normally do good deeds for random people - I never know what will come of it. I might have just made the world worse by helping the wrong person. I'd rather take the sure route with my time and do whatever task I'm currently working on, which I'm doing because I feel it'll make the world better.
- I sometimes have trouble understanding people who make decisions simply because it's "what good citizens do". I'm a bit distant from society in that sense. I'll make decisions that have a clear effect. If I can't perceive the effect of my action, I probably won't give it much thought.
- I tend to take the attitude of "there are a lot of Feelers in this world who WILL stop and help that random stranger and they'll be better at it than I'll be because I'll just do it begrudgingly". So I wait and let them do it unless there's no other choice. :P
But then the "F" side kicks in and this happens:
- I'll take on tasks for the sake of seeing people I care about be happy because I just think that would be awesome to see.
I don't do this all the time, but I definitely have my moments!
- I'm very diplomatic and not typically seen as "cold".
- My mood tends to match the mood of the group I'm in. If everyone's happy and willing to accept me being happy, I'm more likely to be happy, warm and cheerful. If everyone's blah, I am effectively incapable of cheering up a group. I thrive off positive emotions around me.
- I won't shake up a conversation just for the sake of messing with people and getting them to talk. I'm more reserved than that.
- I'm quick to notice when an action I've taken is not meshing well with the group I'm in and I'll adjust my actions accordingly so I don't rock the boat. Quite often this just means being more silent because what I look for in a group isn't typically why everyone else is there.
- If I have an opinion that is unlikely to be popular, I'm hesitant to reveal it unless I'm in a very small, close-knit group where I know I'll have the chance to explain myself without getting cut off. In this sense, my social image is somewhat important to me, I suppose.
- I'll drop everything to help out a friend if it's important to them...but it needs to be important. Don't ask me to pick you up so you can go shoe shopping unless your dog ate your only good shoes and you have an interview tomorrow and the store closes in half an hour.
- I'm an extremely loyal friend to those who prove themselves to be worth my time and energy. There aren't many of these in my life, but I'll stay up all night with them on a work night to talk through their problems if they want me to.
---------------------------------
"J" versus "P":
- For this one, I mainly use the fact that I tend to start a lot of tasks but finish very few of them.
- The grunt work involved in completing the mindless parts of a project are incredibly draining and I have no interest in doing them. I only do them when I'm so motived to see a project become finished that I have no choice.
- I prefer to synthesize and process ideas more than learn and practice "hard skills".
- I'm indecisive when a lack of information is available and I suck at making decisions when the outcome is trivial (where to have dinner, what to do this evening, etc.).
So why do I get so many "J" results?
Because a good portion of my free time is spent, not purely gathering information but processing and seeing what I can do with it.
I feel like there are two kinds of knowledge:
1) The kind that I pick up because it's intrinsically interesting and fulfilling to look more into on its own.
Examples include such things as:
- Why do people do what they do?
- The fate of the universe
- Developments in science and technology
- Philosophy
- What do people find fun or engaging? Why?
- Why does music do what it does to people? How can I utilize this?
- etc.
2) Supporting knowledge.
This is the kind of knowledge that is required to assist with the understanding of Type 1 knowledge or bring a task to life.
This knowledge isn't typically interesting on its own (at least to me), but is vital for helping process more interesting data and turning it into something useful and fulfilling.
Example include everything from:
- Knowing how to hold a pair of scissors
- Basic math skills
- Music theory
- How to program in Java
- How to use Photoshop
- What year was Jesus supposedly born?
- How fast is the CPU inside a Nexus 5?
As you can see, this type of knowledge includes many hard skills and details that are used to fill in the "generalization" gaps in Type 1 knowledge.
I don't do projects because the grunt work is necessarily inherently interesting. I do them as a means to an end - to achieve the fulfillment that comes from the results of the project.
That's why I lean more towards "P" than "J" for my type.
INTP? What do you think?
