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snafupants

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Guys, I don't know if you noticed, but he's mostly given up on the thread and trying to ingest all the information presented, so that he can come up with what he thinks is valid and further analyse his personality based on what we said. It's great that you're still showing interest, but you may be wasting your time until he shows interest as well.


I have zealously read everything thus far presented in the thread. This wonky internet connection of mine went out yesterday (storms). I was literally waiting for my results from the shorter of ESC's two tests when the page refused to load; somehow, perhaps with god's divine intercession, I refrained from sending the keyboard into the monitor. At any rate, the input is definitely appreciated, stimulating, and edifying; I will take another look later today. :cat:

The internet definitely represents my intellectual id: an oasis of cerebral cartwheels tempered with visceral jollies. :matrix: :tinykitball: :king-twitter:
 

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@CoolyD. I may be askew, but what do you say to this, using F/T/S/N for feeling/thinking/sensing/intuition? Is anything accurate here? The only way I will learn anything at all is by falling on my face, lol.

S (This signifies lack of Si, as you had mentioned, therefore lack of S, therefore N)-When I wash my hands they feel disconnected from my body.
F (I don't see what this does support, i know it to be a trait of INTPs, but definitely not indicating F)-Bureaucracy and willful ignorance really rub me the wrong way.
F (Could be, or on the other hand it could indicate intuition, since intuitives can find such spectacles boring)-I rarely care for sports.
S/F/N/T (N, especially for philosophy)-Music, literature, and philosophy are three beautiful and edifying things in my life.
N (and probably T)-Many of my efforts are focused on personal betterment and intellectual enrichment.
N (probably, although this could just indicate high intelligence, so it's ambiguous)-Often I need to retranslate, retard, and bastardize my thoughts to communicate them to others.
F (arguing requires extroversion, so this could signify introversion. Could also mean N due to the detail arguing sometimes require)-I like to be challenged but arguing for long stretches leaves me cold.
N (This probably signifies introversion)-My cadre of friends gets smaller but deeper every year.
S (I get the same feeling and I am intuitive. Could mean P or S)-Most concerts bother me because of the sound engineer's strategy to amplify the volume in this vain effort to offset or extinguish the wanting fidelity; traffic and crowds suck.
F (don't know the guy... Most people are exceedingly simple means introversion, because he is completely separating himself from others, and probably N)-Arthur Schopenhauer feels like a brother to me; most people are exceedingly simple.
S (I don't think appearance means much. The dietary schedule has been discussed, ending up at a probable P)-I typically sport a bohemian look replete with ponytail and beard; coffee is my friend. Every day I consume the same foods at preferably the same times.
? (Dropping out of society-I)-I have seriously considered joining a cult, traveling as an ESL teacher, or otherwise dropping out of society.
N (I again)-There hasn't really ever been a time in my life in which I felt lonely; homesick perhaps, but not lonely proper;
N (I'd agree here)-astronomy, math, and science fiction are wonderful for putting the ego in check and granting existential perspective.
F (I'm thinking, and agree. I reckon it signifies high intelligence, leading on from people are exceedingly simple, and perhaps N)-Animals are great; people are normally less great.
F (I'm T and agree. I'd go for N, as an ability to predict what will happen next)-I've stopped watching movies because the experience feels like an undue time commitment provided the cheap payoff.
F (Yes, and I)-I find caring for people much easier than loving them.
F (I'm T and mostly agree. I'm not sure what this one means)-There's nothing I proverbially want out of life; promotions or compliments hardly move me.

Notice how I rated the last four as "F." There is plenty to think about on those topics, but are the sentences themselves written with feeling? I'm not ready to conclude anything.
Notice the 4th one I gave up on. Beauty is S? The whole statement is N? The topics themselves are worthy of T? Is the sentence meant with feeling or not?

Yaaaah ...
 

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I have zealously read everything thus far presented in the thread. This wonky internet connection of mine went out yesterday (storms). I was literally waiting for my results from the shorter of ESC's two tests when the page refused to load; somehow, perhaps with god's divine intercession, I refrained from sending the keyboard into the monitor. At any rate, the input is definitely appreciated, stimulating, and edifying; I will take another look later today.
So now you are using the shortcomings of the internet as an excuse for not communicating with us. Tsk! Tsk! And leaning on god God to boot. This has GOT to provide key insight to your temperament evaluation.
 

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So now you are using the shortcomings of the internet as an excuse for not communicating with us. Tsk! Tsk! And leaning on god God to boot. This has GOT to provide key insight to your temperament evaluation.

Amen. :D

The original lower case was definitely intentional.
 

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Good advice Grave.
 

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Materialistic vs. Subjectivistic
Offbeat vs. Conventional
Thinking vs. Emotional
Intimate vs. Witholding
Vital vs. Depressed


Your MOTIV type is SOTWV
Your MOTIV+ type is S|O|tWv
Your Primary type is Offbeat
S(72%)O(74%)T(68%)W(57%)V(56%)

Thanks. I do require also the Big Five results in using the comparative method of concluding what your type could be. If you can't get around to it there's one that is 70 items shorter(here).
 

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Thanks. I do require also the Big Five results in using the comparative method of concluding what your type could be. If you can't get around to it there's one that is 70 items shorter(here).

@EyeSeeCold

That's all right. I will complete the behemoth later tonight, perhaps over some tunes.

I thought you would want both. This analysis better be good...no pressure. :D
 

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Big 45 Test Results

Gregariousness |||||||||||| 38%
Sociability ||||||||||||||| 46%
Assertiveness ||||||||||||||||||||| 62%
Poise |||||||||||| 38%
Leadership ||||||||||||||||||||| 66%
Provocativeness |||||||||||||||||||||||| 78%
Self-Disclosure |||||||||||||||||| 54%
Talkativeness ||||||||||||||| 50%
Group Attachment ||||||||| 26%
Extroversion ||||||||||||||| 50%
Understanding ||||||||||||||||||||| 66%
Warmth ||||||||||||||||||||| 66%
Morality ||||||||||||||| 50%
Pleasantness ||||||||||||||| 42%
Empathy |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 82%
Cooperation |||||||||||||||||| 54%
Sympathy ||||||||||||||||||||| 62%
Tenderness |||||||||||||||||| 54%
Nurturance |||||||||||||||||| 58%
Accommodation |||||||||||||||||| 59%
Conscientiousness ||||||||||||||||||||| 66%
Efficiency |||||||||||||||||||||||| 74%
Dutifulness ||||||||||||||| 50%
Purposefulness ||||||||||||||||||||| 66%
Organization |||||||||||||||||||||||| 74%
Cautiousness |||||||||||||||||| 58%
Rationality ||||||||||||||||||||| 70%
Perfectionism ||||||||||||||||||||| 62%
Planning ||||||||||||||| 50%
Orderliness ||||||||||||||||||||| 63%
Stability |||||||||||||||||| 54%
Happiness |||||||||||||||||| 58%
Calmness |||||||||||||||||| 54%
Moderation ||||||||||||||| 46%
Toughness |||||||||||||||||| 58%
Impulse Control ||||||||||||||| 42%
Imperturbability |||||||||||| 38%
Cool-headedness ||||||||||||||| 46%
Tranquility |||||||||||| 38%
Emotional Stability ||||||||||||||| 48%
Intellect |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Ingenuity |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 86%
Reflection |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 86%
Competence |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 82%
Quickness |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Introspection |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 86%
Creativity |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Imagination |||||||||||||||||||||||| 78%
Depth |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Openmindedness |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 86%
Big 45 Key
Factor low score high score
Gregariousness 38% quiet, reclusive engaging, socially bold
Sociability 46% withdrawn, hidden warm, open, inviting
Assertiveness 62% timid, gunshy controlling, aggressive
Poise 38% uneasy around others socially comfortable
Leadership 66% stays in background prefers to lead
Provocativeness 78% modest, plays it safe bold, uninhibited, cocky
Self-Disclosure 54% private, contained very open and revealing
Talkativeness 50% quiet, stealthy, invisible motor mouth, loud
Group Attachment 26% loves solitude prefers to be with others
Understanding 66% insensitive, schizoid respectful, sympathetic
Warmth 66% disinterested in others supportive, helpful
Morality 50% break/ignore the rules play by the rules
Pleasantness 42% aloof or disagreeable gets along with others
Empathy 82% out of tune w/ others in tune with others
Cooperation 54% competitive, warlike agreeable, peaceful
Sympathy 62% socially inconsiderate socially conscious
Tenderness 54% cold hearted, selfish warm hearted, selfless
Nurturance 58% self pleasing, me first people pleasing, me last
Conscientiousness 66% reckless, unscheduled careful, planner
Efficiency 74% unreliable, lazy finisher, follows through
Dutifulness 50% leisurely, derelict strict, rule abiding
Purposefulness 66% inattentive, undisciplined prepared, focused
Organization 74% relaxed, oblivious detail oriented, anal
Cautiousness 58% impulsive, spendthrift restrained, cautious
Rationality 70% irrational, random direct, logical
Perfectionism 62% careless, error prone detail obsessed
Planning 50% disorganized, random scheduled, clean
Stability 54% easily frustrated calm, cool, unphased
Happiness 58% unhappy, dissatisfied self content, positive
Calmness 54% touchy, volatile even tempered, tolerant
Moderation 46% needs instant gratification easily delays gratification
Toughness 58% hypersensitive, moody thick skinned
Impulse Control 42% lacks self control maintains composure
Imperturbability 38% highly emotional emotionally contained
Cool-headedness 46% demanding, controlling accommodating
Tranquility 38% emotionally volatile emotionally neutral
Intellect 90% instinctive, non-analytical intellectual, analytical
Ingenuity 86% lacks new ideas innovative, novel
Reflection 86% unreflective, coarse art and beauty lover
Competence 82% slow to understand/think intellectual, brainy
Quickness 90% intellectually dependent intellectually independent
Introspection 86% not self reflective self searching
Creativity 90% dull headed synthesizer, iconoclast
Imagination 78% practical, realistic dreamer, unrealistic
Depth 90% lacks curiosity mental explorer
 

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Big 45 Test Results

Gregariousness |||||||||||| 38%
Sociability ||||||||||||||| 46%
Assertiveness ||||||||||||||||||||| 62%
Poise |||||||||||| 38%
Leadership ||||||||||||||||||||| 66%
Provocativeness |||||||||||||||||||||||| 78%
Self-Disclosure |||||||||||||||||| 54%
Talkativeness ||||||||||||||| 50%
Group Attachment ||||||||| 26%
Extroversion ||||||||||||||| 50%
Understanding ||||||||||||||||||||| 66%
Warmth ||||||||||||||||||||| 66%
Morality ||||||||||||||| 50%
Pleasantness ||||||||||||||| 42%
Empathy |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 82%
Cooperation |||||||||||||||||| 54%
Sympathy ||||||||||||||||||||| 62%
Tenderness |||||||||||||||||| 54%
Nurturance |||||||||||||||||| 58%
Accommodation |||||||||||||||||| 59%
Conscientiousness ||||||||||||||||||||| 66%
Efficiency |||||||||||||||||||||||| 74%
Dutifulness ||||||||||||||| 50%
Purposefulness ||||||||||||||||||||| 66%
Organization |||||||||||||||||||||||| 74%
Cautiousness |||||||||||||||||| 58%
Rationality ||||||||||||||||||||| 70%
Perfectionism ||||||||||||||||||||| 62%
Planning ||||||||||||||| 50%
Orderliness ||||||||||||||||||||| 63%
Stability |||||||||||||||||| 54%
Happiness |||||||||||||||||| 58%
Calmness |||||||||||||||||| 54%
Moderation ||||||||||||||| 46%
Toughness |||||||||||||||||| 58%
Impulse Control ||||||||||||||| 42%
Imperturbability |||||||||||| 38%
Cool-headedness ||||||||||||||| 46%
Tranquility |||||||||||| 38%
Emotional Stability ||||||||||||||| 48%
Intellect |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Ingenuity |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 86%
Reflection |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 86%
Competence |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 82%
Quickness |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Introspection |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 86%
Creativity |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Imagination |||||||||||||||||||||||| 78%
Depth |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Openmindedness |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 86%
Big 45 Key
Factor low score high score
Gregariousness 38% quiet, reclusive engaging, socially bold
Sociability 46% withdrawn, hidden warm, open, inviting
Assertiveness 62% timid, gunshy controlling, aggressive
Poise 38% uneasy around others socially comfortable
Leadership 66% stays in background prefers to lead
Provocativeness 78% modest, plays it safe bold, uninhibited, cocky
Self-Disclosure 54% private, contained very open and revealing
Talkativeness 50% quiet, stealthy, invisible motor mouth, loud
Group Attachment 26% loves solitude prefers to be with others
Understanding 66% insensitive, schizoid respectful, sympathetic
Warmth 66% disinterested in others supportive, helpful
Morality 50% break/ignore the rules play by the rules
Pleasantness 42% aloof or disagreeable gets along with others
Empathy 82% out of tune w/ others in tune with others
Cooperation 54% competitive, warlike agreeable, peaceful
Sympathy 62% socially inconsiderate socially conscious
Tenderness 54% cold hearted, selfish warm hearted, selfless
Nurturance 58% self pleasing, me first people pleasing, me last
Conscientiousness 66% reckless, unscheduled careful, planner
Efficiency 74% unreliable, lazy finisher, follows through
Dutifulness 50% leisurely, derelict strict, rule abiding
Purposefulness 66% inattentive, undisciplined prepared, focused
Organization 74% relaxed, oblivious detail oriented, anal
Cautiousness 58% impulsive, spendthrift restrained, cautious
Rationality 70% irrational, random direct, logical
Perfectionism 62% careless, error prone detail obsessed
Planning 50% disorganized, random scheduled, clean
Stability 54% easily frustrated calm, cool, unphased
Happiness 58% unhappy, dissatisfied self content, positive
Calmness 54% touchy, volatile even tempered, tolerant
Moderation 46% needs instant gratification easily delays gratification
Toughness 58% hypersensitive, moody thick skinned
Impulse Control 42% lacks self control maintains composure
Imperturbability 38% highly emotional emotionally contained
Cool-headedness 46% demanding, controlling accommodating
Tranquility 38% emotionally volatile emotionally neutral
Intellect 90% instinctive, non-analytical intellectual, analytical
Ingenuity 86% lacks new ideas innovative, novel
Reflection 86% unreflective, coarse art and beauty lover
Competence 82% slow to understand/think intellectual, brainy
Quickness 90% intellectually dependent intellectually independent
Introspection 86% not self reflective self searching
Creativity 90% dull headed synthesizer, iconoclast
Imagination 78% practical, realistic dreamer, unrealistic
Depth 90% lacks curiosity mental explorer

@EyeSeeCold

Materialistic vs. Subjectivistic
Offbeat vs. Conventional
Thinking vs. Emotional
Intimate vs. Witholding
Vital vs. Depressed


Your MOTIV type is SOTWV
Your MOTIV+ type is S|O|tWv
Your Primary type is Offbeat
S(72%)O(74%)T(68%)W(57%)V(56%)

INTJ > INFJ would be the statistically approximated MBTI type. Although I'm more trusting of the figures, overall Jungian Introverted Thinking/Intuition seems the most suitable area for your type, in my opinion, assuming you are not an Extravert(which is something that's either hard for me to distinguish online or is not likely).

These quotes fit the vibe you have:
the mystical dreamer and seer on the one hand, or the fantastical crank and artist on the other.

Intensification of intuition naturally often results in an extraordinary aloofness of the individual from tangible reality; he may even become a complete enigma to his own immediate circle.

If an artist, he reveals extraordinary, remote things in his art, which in iridescent profusion embrace both the significant and the banal, the lovely and the grotesque, the whimsical and the sublime(Odds and Ends). If not an artist, he is frequently an unappreciated genius, a great man 'gone wrong', a sort of wise simpleton, a figure for 'psychological' novels.

Jungian Ni and Ti do seem most pronounced, although I don't agree with the conceptions & understandings of MBTI Introverts, so Socionics' IEI(MBTI INFx) is the closest thing to what I could type you. But I could be wrong of course, especially over the internet**. If it helps, Enneatype 4 sounds right also.


**I think another Ni or Ti prominent Intuitive type would be likely before anything else.
 

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INTJ > INFJ would be the statistically approximated MBTI type. Although I'm more trusting of the figures, overall Jungian Introverted Thinking/Intuition seems the most suitable area for your type, in my opinion, assuming you are not an Extravert(which is something that's either hard for me to distinguish online or is not likely).

These quotes fit the vibe you have:


Jungian Ni and Ti do seem most pronounced, although I don't agree with the conceptions & understandings of MBTI Introverts, so Socionics' IEI(MBTI INFx) is the closest thing to what I could type you. But I could be wrong of course, especially over the internet**. If it helps, Enneatype 4 sounds right also.


**I think another Ni or Ti prominent Intuitive type would be likely before anything else.

@EyeSeeCold

The Socionics' functions indeed seem more expansive than their MBTI counterparts, but they also seem more ambiguous as an outcropping of that expansiveness. I really feel your coda is accurate: dominant introverted thinking or introverted intuition trumps all other hypotheses at this juncture. The Jungian excerpt and illustrations (e.g., Odds and Ends) were very apt. I actually read through a bunch of chapters after pinpointing the provenance of that quote (spoiler). There's no hiding from Jung! The discussion of this compensatory [low and primitive] extraverted sensation function was especially poignant; I've noticed that dominant introverted intuitive types have an issue with creating from scratch, particularly as compared to their dominant/auxiliary extraverted intuition foils. The connection between Ni-Se and neuroses also seemed well-founded, albeit haphazardly documented by Jung. Anyway, thanks for your input buddy. :cat:

http://boydibsen.com/psychological-types-chapter-16/
 

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snafu: we had a conversation/argument a while ago about DFW and some other stuff. I said I thought you were an INFJ then and I still think so now. And not to be rude, but I also think that part of what's skewing your results is some of your own self-absorption. More on topic: because Ni is such a vague function it's easy to confuse things, and this is only compounded by Ni's reliance on the unconscious to make intuitive leaps. Also, hello.

Edit: Having Fe as your secondary function is not a crime against humanity XD
 

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snafu: we had a conversation/argument a while ago about DFW and some other stuff. I said I thought you were an INFJ then and I still think so now. And not to be rude, but I also think that part of what's skewing your results is some of your own self-absorption. More on topic: because Ni is such a vague function it's easy to confuse things, and this is only compounded by Ni's reliance on the unconscious to make intuitive leaps. Also, hello.

Edit: Having Fe as your secondary function is not a crime against humanity XD

@axemblack

Jeez, I did say upfront that this thread was narcissistic. :D

Also, hello. :king-twitter:
 
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