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I'm an asperger female INTJ.
My bluntness, my competitiveness, my death stare make all people see me as an asshole, even when I didn't do anything.
I used to just ignore them, but sometimes I feel that life is so unfair.
Why people always love those who play victims no matter how horrible they are?
Everybody loves the ass kissers and the victims.
:elephant:
 

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I don't think there's much point bothering with people who won't take any time or effort to see past first impressions. I personally just ignore them and only deal with them if I have to.
 

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I don't think there's much point bothering with people who won't take any time or effort to see past first impressions. I personally just ignore them and only deal with them if I have to.

Yes, I always ignore them too.
But, it's kinda hard to ignore if they are chasing on me everywhere.
So stupid, I somewhat get bullied by them, but they act like they are the ones who get bullied by me.

Oh dear. :confused:
 

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Not every day you get an offer of friendship. You don't know Base groove. I'd take him up on it. See what happens.
 

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Evolution.
The more people in a group, the better the chance of survival and evolution.
For better chance of survival group mentality started developing. And a victim in a group, needs special care to make maintain the group. Humanity as a whole has formed one group.
Average people feel more conscience while killing humans than animals.
Because previously humans together grew and fought against the animals to survive.
But humanity is then farther divided to different groups based on different people's interest and a lot of type those sub groups are in clashes and conflicts and they are often ready to kill each other.

I am diverting from the point.

Human mind is highly biased and deluded.
They can be easily fooled. They often see one side of the coin.

For example if there is a couple love birds and if the female quarrels with say someone called Y. Then the male (who loves that female) may tend to support the female, even though the female have done something wrong too.

In that case due to confirmation bias the male may seek evidence that favors his belief and ignore the contrary evidences and support his lover and fight against Y.

Well what is right or wrong anyway.

In past I used to easily get offended. Even the slightest offence made me go through serious psychological suffering. I was devastated by the human biases. I most of the time used to do nothing, absolutely nothing, but still I got offended, and I suffered, suffered hard.

After that I trained hard by punching my testicles, and turned myself from an emotionally sensitive empath to a sociopath. Thanks Society.

I suffered from insanity from blood lust. Did not suffer but i enjoyed it, imagining people burning in hell, imagining torture. I even started torturing my family.

But then I gained self -control, calmed down, and become one with the void.

By definition I am still a sociopath because I dont feel guilt, it is useless.

but why i am sharing my life story here? :facepalm:
 

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Yes, I always ignore them too.
But, it's kinda hard to ignore if they are chasing on me everywhere.
So stupid, I somewhat get bullied by them, but they act like they are the ones who get bullied by me.

Oh dear. :confused:

What a horrible paradox! Victimising you in a way that they come across as the victim.
You could try being forward and nice in a subtle sarcastic way? aha :twisteddevil:
 

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Evolution.
The more people in a group, the better the chance of survival and evolution.
For better chance of survival group mentality started developing. And a victim in a group, needs special care to make maintain the group. Humanity as a whole has formed one group.
Average people feel more conscience while killing humans than animals.
Because previously humans together grew and fought against the animals to survive.
But humanity is then farther divided to different groups based on different people's interest and a lot of type those sub groups are in clashes and conflicts and they are often ready to kill each other.

I am diverting from the point.

Human mind is highly biased and deluded.
They can be easily fooled. They often see one side of the coin.

For example if there is a couple love birds and if the female quarrels with say someone called Y. Then the male (who loves that female) may tend to support the female, even though the female have done something wrong too.

In that case due to confirmation bias the male may seek evidence that favors his belief and ignore the contrary evidences and support his lover and fight against Y.

Well what is right or wrong anyway.

In past I used to easily get offended. Even the slightest offence made me go through serious psychological suffering. I was devastated by the human biases. I most of the time used to do nothing, absolutely nothing, but still I got offended, and I suffered, suffered hard.

After that I trained hard by punching my testicles, and turned myself from an emotionally sensitive empath to a sociopath. Thanks Society.

I suffered from insanity from blood lust. Did not suffer but i enjoyed it, imagining people burning in hell, imagining torture. I even started torturing my family.

But then I gained self -control, calmed down, and become one with the void.

By definition I am still a sociopath because I dont feel guilt, it is useless.

but why i am sharing my life story here? :facepalm:



Lol, thanks for sharing that.
I don't like to be engaged in any fight, because I think it's useless.
I've better things to do other than fighting over bullshits.
Unfortunately, no matter where I go, there will always some people who claimed to get bullied by me. It's kinda like that they feel so special if they are able to be my victims.

:elephant:
 

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What a horrible paradox! Victimising you in a way that they come across as the victim.
You could try being forward and nice in a subtle sarcastic way? aha :twisteddevil:

I'm always being forward, but it will only make the situation even worse. Thus, it's better to not giving any response and leave. :D
 

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I don't know. Maybe you secretly want friends?

I think I just like to kill time writing in forums.
I guess I should become a writer.
But then I have to learn some English.
Thanks for the advice myself, but no.
 

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In past I used to easily get offended. Even the slightest offence made me go through serious psychological suffering. I was devastated by the human biases. I most of the time used to do nothing, absolutely nothing, but still I got offended, and I suffered, suffered hard.

After that I trained hard by punching my testicles, and turned myself from an emotionally sensitive empath to a sociopath. Thanks Society.

I suffered from insanity from blood lust. Did not suffer but i enjoyed it, imagining people burning in hell, imagining torture. I even started torturing my family.

But then I gained self -control, calmed down, and become one with the void.

By definition I am still a sociopath because I dont feel guilt, it is useless.

but why i am sharing my life story here? :facepalm:
Would you agree that society and external matters destroyed precious parts of your internal world? I sometimes see that in myself.

Hi, Pika Pika
 

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I'm always being forward, but it will only make the situation even worse. Thus, it's better to not giving any response and leave. :D

Fight them.
When I was at school I used to get bullied every morning at the bus stop by my next door neighbour who's ESFJ - Loud kid who gets bored easily. So there's me, the quite kid in the corner and he'd always just pick on me and I'd just ignore him. I'd hope that he'd get bored by my lack of response but nothing ever changed.

Then one winter it snowed pretty heavy, school cancelled and we were outside making snowmen or something (side by side in our front gardens) then we had a pretty vicious snowball fight. With stones and other nasties in the snowballs and we also built a snow barrier each for cover. But despite the fact it was quite a brutal snowball fight and we pretty much hated each other at this point (sounds petty but we were like 13 or 14 when this happened) we ended up becoming friends afterwards. Bit of a weird story, this was years ago too and we're still good friends now aha

I'v often wondered why the snowfight changed anything, but I suppose it was the first time I actually stood up to him and for myself and that made him show me some respect?
 

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Fight them.
When I was at school I used to get bullied every morning at the bus stop by my next door neighbour who's ESFJ - Loud kid who gets bored easily. So there's me, the quite kid in the corner and he'd always just pick on me and I'd just ignore him. I'd hope that he'd get bored by my lack of response but nothing ever changed.

Then one winter it snowed pretty heavy, school cancelled and we were outside making snowmen or something (side by side in our front gardens) then we had a pretty vicious snowball fight. With stones and other nasties in the snowballs and we also built a snow barrier each for cover. But despite the fact it was quite a brutal snowball fight and we pretty much hated each other at this point (sounds petty but we were like 13 or 14 when this happened) we ended up becoming friends afterwards. Bit of a weird story, this was years ago too and we're still good friends now aha

I'v often wondered why the snowfight changed anything, but I suppose it was the first time I actually stood up to him and for myself and that made him show me some respect?

No, fight them means I'll get engaged in never ending useless fights.
It will only wasting my time.

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No, fight them means I'll get engaged in never ending useless fights.
It will only wasting my time.

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Can I ask what scenario you have to deal with these people is?
 

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Would you agree that society and external matters destroyed precious parts of your internal world? I sometimes see that in myself.

Hi, Pika Pika

It depends.
In a sense it is all these mental hardship (induced due to external agencies) helped me attain mental invulnerability.
It helped me to attain a neutral nothing state.
There are someone who hate someone who love, every events, every goods and bads, all is responsible to make me who I am now.

Any types of attachments bring fear of losing. After losing 'love' and other emotions, I can feel free from fears of loss and death and everything and I can sense a weird tranquility and emptiness. All that remains is slight depression, and slight upliftment and my mind mind fluctuates between the two ends. Even the taste I recieve from foods is decreasing.

I guess my mind recognized emotions as negative altogether because it was responsible for my suffering and shut it down.

But now I am trying to develop more of an universal compassion (it is different from specific love to just your mother or opposite sex or like that) which is kind of freeing and uplifting. ( I once attained some wierd universal love state one night when I was trying to gain occult powahs and it liberated from all my fears and negativities and sufferings for a while and what not)

With balance of compassion and understanding and apathy to desires and attachments I can be free, I can be internally balanced and also I can live in harmony with the surrounding without hurting anyone. That for me is the best way to live right now.
 

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Can I ask what scenario you have to deal with these people is?

I don't even understand, they get mad at me out of the blue.
For the recent one, I guess it's because one of them cried about her past experience and I told her about my similar experience but I was able to get away from problems in the past because I had courage to fight the bad guys back. Then, I told her that she should learn from her mistakes and tell the people that she cares about to fight back whenever they face bad guys.

It's somewhat funny, my intention was to help. Apparently, they get offended instead of take my suggestions. Anyway, I realize that I've bad attitude to compare others to me and think that if I can do that, then others should be able to do that as well.
 

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Fight them.
When I was at school I used to get bullied every morning at the bus stop by my next door neighbour who's ESFJ - Loud kid who gets bored easily. So there's me, the quite kid in the corner and he'd always just pick on me and I'd just ignore him. I'd hope that he'd get bored by my lack of response but nothing ever changed.

Then one winter it snowed pretty heavy, school cancelled and we were outside making snowmen or something (side by side in our front gardens) then we had a pretty vicious snowball fight. With stones and other nasties in the snowballs and we also built a snow barrier each for cover. But despite the fact it was quite a brutal snowball fight and we pretty much hated each other at this point (sounds petty but we were like 13 or 14 when this happened) we ended up becoming friends afterwards. Bit of a weird story, this was years ago too and we're still good friends now aha

I'v often wondered why the snowfight changed anything, but I suppose it was the first time I actually stood up to him and for myself and that made him show me some respect?

My enemy turned my friend too. (used to pick up me)
My friend is now my enemy though.
well i just stay away from humans now a days.
I talk to do them like how I am doing right now,
but dont get too close, humans are dangerous creature.
 

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My enemy turned my friend too. (used to pick up me)
My friend is now my enemy though.
well i just stay away from humans now a days.
I talk to do them like how I am doing right now,
but dont get too close, humans are dangerous creature.

You're a human too, therefore you're dangerous as well. :phear:
 

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You're a human too, therefore you're dangerous as well. :phear:

Yes. I dont trust myself actually.
I used to trust myself, I used to think that I will never do that in future, I will never become like that and lots of thing. But I was so naive.
I am not permanent. I can become anything, anytime, and there is these unconscious portion of me, which can get easily manipulated and take control of the little conscious self.

Therefore I trust no one, not even me. :D
 

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I don't even understand, they get mad at me out of the blue.
For the recent one, I guess it's because one of them cried about her past experience and I told her about my similar experience but I was able to get away from problems in the past because I had courage to fight the bad guys back. Then, I told her that she should learn from her mistakes and tell the people that she cares about to fight back whenever they face bad guys.

It's somewhat funny, my intention was to help. Apparently, they get offended instead of take my suggestions. Anyway, I realize that I've bad attitude to compare others to me and think that if I can do that, then others should be able to do that as well.

I'm guessing only guessing though! That you told them something they didn't want to hear, even though it was good advice and whether or not the meaning of what you were saying was lost in translation? But it sounds very narrow minded to me and best just to keep away from people like that as much as possible.

My enemy turned my friend too. (used to pick up me)
My friend is now my enemy though.
well i just stay away from humans now a days.
I talk to do them like how I am doing right now,
but dont get too close, humans are dangerous creature.

I'v always been the same, deal with people on a business by business basis. If I'm particularly intrigued by someone or someone shows an interest to get to know me then sure, I won't shut them off. Everyone one else is bare minimum.
 

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Yes. I dont trust myself actually.
I used to trust myself, I used to think that I will never do that in future, I will never become like that and lots of thing. But I was so naive.
I am not permanent. I can become anything, anytime, and there is these unconscious portion of me, which can get easily manipulated and take control of the little conscious self.

Therefore I trust no one, not even me. :D

Not only can you change yourself how you want but you get changed by every external influence on your life.
 

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I'm guessing only guessing though! That you told them something they didn't want to hear, even though it was good advice and whether or not the meaning of what you were saying was lost in translation? But it sounds very narrow minded to me and best just to keep away from people like that as much as possible.

Yes, exactly!
They are kinda people who prefer to get comments like: "Oh dear, I'm so sorry to hear that."

I just couldn't help myself to not giving someone who I consider as my friend some solutions to her/his problem.
For me, problem is there to be faced and solved.
There's no use to cry and whine.
 

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What do you think of as a friend? What if someone just shared your interests? Even self-interests? It doesn't have to be all gushy.
 

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What do you think of as a friend? What if someone just shared your interests? Even self-interests? It doesn't have to be all gushy.

Interacting each other almost everyday for years.
They don't have the same interests with me, it's just I've known them for about 2 years.
 

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Yes, exactly!
They are kinda people who prefer to get comments like: "Oh dear, I'm so sorry to hear that."

I just couldn't help myself to not giving someone who I consider as my friend some solutions to her/his problem.
For me, problem is there to be faced and solved.
There's no use to cry and whine.

The very reason I rarely open up to people. I don't want to hear the sympathy or empathy - It doesn't help or change anything.

I'v had people get offended by me after sharing a problem, especially if I don't have a solution of offer at that time. I'll sit there with no clue as to what to do. I might just tell them sorry to hear it or something along those lines just because I feel I should, even though I don't mean it. So I think people can perceive me as uncaring. When I am, I just prefer to try and help rather than sympathize.
 

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What do you think of as a friend? What if someone just shared your interests? Even self-interests? It doesn't have to be all gushy.

I'd consider anyone I feel comfortable around a friend.
 

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If you want to remake the friends, you may try the "Benjamin Franklin Effect" :D


http://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/10/05/the-benjamin-franklin-effect/

He would also make a fortune literally printing the state’s paper money. He won the race, but the next election wasn’t going to be as easy. Franklin’s autobiography never mentions this guy’s name, but according to the book when Franklin ran for his second term as clerk, one of his colleagues delivered a long speech to the legislature lambasting Franklin. Franklin still won his second term, but this guy truly pissed him off. In addition, this man was “a gentleman of fortune and education” who Franklin believed would one day become a person of great influence in the government. So, Franklin knew he had to be dealt with, and thus he launched his human behavior stealth bomber.

Franklin set out to turn his hater into a fan, but he wanted to do it without “paying any servile respect to him.” Franklin’s reputation as a book collector and library founder gave him a reputation as a man of discerning literary tastes, so Franklin sent a letter to the hater asking if he could borrow a selection from his library, one which was a “very scarce and curious book.” The rival, flattered, sent it right away. Franklin sent it back a week later with a thank you note. Mission accomplished.

The next time the legislature met, the man approached Franklin and spoke to him in person for the first time. Franklin said the hater “ever after manifested a readiness to serve me on all occasions, so that we became great friends, and our friendship continued to his death.”

tl;dr: If you want to take someone to your side, ask for their kindness or help or anything. If somehow they help you following their 'conscience' or falling to some sort of compliment or flattery or anything even if they hated you they will suffer from cognitive dissonance, because their behavior contradicts their nature and so the mind will come in do all the editing and make them believe as they must have never hated you and that is why they helped you, in this way to maintain sanity and consistency their mind will turn them to your friend. ;)
 

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Evolution.
The more people in a group, the better the chance of survival and evolution.
For better chance of survival group mentality started developing. And a victim in a group, needs special care to make maintain the group. Humanity as a whole has formed one group.
Average people feel more conscience while killing humans than animals.
Because previously humans together grew and fought against the animals to survive.
But humanity is then farther divided to different groups based on different people's interest and a lot of type those sub groups are in clashes and conflicts and they are often ready to kill each other.

I am diverting from the point.

Human mind is highly biased and deluded.
They can be easily fooled. They often see one side of the coin.

For example if there is a couple love birds and if the female quarrels with say someone called Y. Then the male (who loves that female) may tend to support the female, even though the female have done something wrong too.

In that case due to confirmation bias the male may seek evidence that favors his belief and ignore the contrary evidences and support his lover and fight against Y.

Well what is right or wrong anyway.

In past I used to easily get offended. Even the slightest offence made me go through serious psychological suffering. I was devastated by the human biases. I most of the time used to do nothing, absolutely nothing, but still I got offended, and I suffered, suffered hard.

After that I trained hard by punching my testicles, and turned myself from an emotionally sensitive empath to a sociopath. Thanks Society.

I suffered from insanity from blood lust. Did not suffer but i enjoyed it, imagining people burning in hell, imagining torture. I even started torturing my family.

But then I gained self -control, calmed down, and become one with the void.

By definition I am still a sociopath because I dont feel guilt, it is useless.

but why i am sharing my life story here? :facepalm:

...
Teach me the way of the Tao
Wise one,
I look forward to the testicle punching endurance training
Trust that I shall be well prepared
 

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"You can only blame your problems on the world for so long before it all becomes the same old song"
-Fall Out Boy

^Just a little bit of tough love.

In my opinion, straight-forward people are my favorite people. The people who get offended and feel victimized, or are "protecting" other people whom they think will get offended are just living in their own little world filled with their own projections. My favorite part about it is explaining to the people how skewed their views are (in a polite yet affirmative way). The trick is to never let anyone else's thoughts taint the way you think about yourself.
 

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"You can only blame your problems on the world for so long before it all becomes the same old song"
-Fall Out Boy

^Just a little bit of tough love.

In my opinion, straight-forward people are my favorite people. The people who get offended and feel victimized, or are "protecting" other people whom they think will get offended are just living in their own little world filled with their own projections. My favorite part about it is explaining to the people how skewed their views are (in a polite yet affirmative way). The trick is to never let anyone else's thoughts taint the way you think about yourself.

My trick is, I just walk away and make them invisible in my eyes.
There's no benefit to be friends with irrational idiots, oops. Sorry for that. ;)
 

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May you learn the art of debate and discover the intricacies of psychology and knowledge itself.
 
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