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Superiority

Do you have a sense of superiority?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 76 62.8%
  • No.

    Votes: 45 37.2%

  • Total voters
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420MuNkEy

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What the... 61.17% feel superior ? What happened to all the detachedness and disassociation ? Gee... You people need to sort some things out, right now.
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I think disassociation might play into the feelings of superiority. If we are disassociated with mankind, we can make sweeping generalizations that exclude ourselves.
 

JUN

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Eeeh... I'm highly dissociative though, I did exams to evaluate my levels of detachment in a psychologist and stuff, I ranked really really high. However, that doesn't make me think I am better, it just expresses itself in a lack of ego/notion of self... And I think that's what disassociation means brodude. Seriously, look it up, disassociation wouldn't ever make you feel superior... You see, you kind of stop understanding how you feel too.

So, if anything, it just sort of turns you into a really neutral person.
 

420MuNkEy

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Eeeh... I'm highly dissociative though, I did exams to evaluate my levels of detachment in a psychologist and stuff, I ranked really really high. However, that doesn't make me think I am better, it just expresses itself in a lack of ego/notion of self... And I think that's what disassociation means brodude. Seriously, look it up, disassociation wouldn't ever make you feel superior... You see, you kind of stop understanding how you feel too.

So, if anything, it just sort of turns you into a really neutral person.
Here's what the Oxford English Dictionary has to say (sorry, it copies weird)...
disassociation

a.a The action of disassociating, or the condition of being disassociated; dissociation.

b.b = dissociation 3.
disassociate


trans. To free or detach from association; to dissociate, sever. Const. from (with).

Hence disaˈssociated ppl. a.
dissociation

1.1 The action of dissociating or the condition of being dissociated; severance; division; disunion.

2.2 Chem. (Removed cause it's long and not relevant)

3.3 Psychol. a.3.a The process or result of breaking up associations of ideas.

b.3.b The disintegration of personality or consciousness; the state in which a person suffers from dissociated personality.
dissociated


a.a Cut off from associates or society; disunited, separated.

b.b Psychol. Characterized by the disjunction of associated mental connections or the disaggregation of consciousness; dissociated personality, a pathological state of mind in which two or more distinct personalities exist in the same person. (Occas. used as active verb.)
My point was, by not associating yourself with humans, you can make observations of them that you wouldn't apply to yourself.
 

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Eeeh... I'm highly dissociative though, I did exams to evaluate my levels of detachment in a psychologist and stuff, I ranked really really high. However, that doesn't make me think I am better, it just expresses itself in a lack of ego/notion of self... And I think that's what disassociation means brodude. Seriously, look it up, disassociation wouldn't ever make you feel superior... You see, you kind of stop understanding how you feel too.

So, if anything, it just sort of turns you into a really neutral person.

Dissociation could very well lend itself to a feeling of superiority. Someone who is "one of the people; with the people-for the people for the people-by the people" would never think he/she is superior and thus place himself/herself in a position of power over the people. Yet people who dissociate themselves from everyone do this all the time. Think dictators/tyrants. These are people who dissociate themselves and have immense feelings of superiority, to the point where they honestly delude themselves into thinking they are so superior it is their god given duty to control the people under them.

(The argument made a lot more sense before I tried to put it down in words.)

All I am trying to say is that maybe in your case you have dissociative tendencies that make you more neutral and don't give you feelings of superiority, but there are a lot of cases where dissociation comes on in the form of narcissism.
 

420MuNkEy

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Sorry, but Oxford trumps wiki in terms of credibility.
 

CoryJames

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So does a rastafarian monkey.
 

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I recently finished up my mature student uni applications and wrote a letter for special consideration. There's a section that seems relevant.

[FONT=&quot]From ________ I moved to ________ to live with a friend from _______. I pursued various entry-level jobs, all of which were interesting enough until I became sufficiently familiar with them. I learned to install drywall, for example, and to sell lawn and garden supplies, to prepare food and to provide customer support. My immediate goals did not preclude frequent job changes and my long term goals were still in their infancy. It was when I met a man in ______, the one who taught me to drywall, that I began to realize importance of actually applying myself. He was a middle-aged man, approaching fifty, who had always managed to hold his head above water by virtue of his eclectic skills and natural abilities but who, largely due to a drinking problem perhaps itself related to a general lack of focus, had little to show for his years beyond good conversation and bad relations with family. He would serve a stark contrast to another man that I met in that city.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]One of my jobs in _________ was that of a science tutor and one of my pupils was an injured construction worker who was being rehabilitated as an architectural technician. Before he could begin his college courses he needed a high school physics credit and he was struggling with the course. He had been out of school for more than a decade and lacked a natural aptitude for the subject but through considerable and determined effort, and aided by my instruction, he managed to achieve the credit. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I was never particularly challenged in high school and I sometimes flattered myself with the idea that I might be able to successfully float through life just as easily. I left ______ with a clear understanding of the fallacy and outright deluded vanity in that notion.[/FONT]
It's much easier for me to achieve mediocrity than it is for most people. That's something to be proud of, right? Nevermind that both the men in the story were married.
 

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You forgot to fill in some of those ________'s Pants, so I did so. Nature abhors a vacuum.

[FONT=&quot]From ANTARCTICA I moved to the ARCTIC to live with a friend from LOWER SLOBOVIA. I pursued various entry-level jobs, all of which were interesting enough until I became sufficiently familiar with them. I learned to install drywall, for example, and to sell lawn and garden supplies, to prepare food and to provide customer support. My immediate goals did not preclude frequent job changes and my long term goals were still in their infancy. It was when I met a man in a CHARNAL HOUSE, the one who taught me to drywall, that I began to realize importance of actually applying myself. He was a middle-aged man, approaching fifty, who had always managed to hold his head above water by virtue of his eclectic skills and natural abilities but who, largely due to a drinking problem perhaps itself related to a general lack of focus, had little to show for his years beyond good conversation and bad relations with family. He would serve a stark contrast to another man that I met in that city.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]One of my jobs in WORKING THE GRAVEYARD SHIFT was that of a science tutor and one of my pupils was an injured construction worker who was being rehabilitated as an architectural technician. Before he could begin his college courses he needed a high school physics credit and he was struggling with the course. He had been out of school for more than a decade and lacked a natural aptitude for the subject but through considerable and determined effort, and aided by my instruction, he managed to achieve the credit. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I was never particularly challenged in high school and I sometimes flattered myself with the idea that I might be able to successfully float through life just as easily. I left the ASYLUM with a clear understanding of the fallacy and outright deluded vanity in that notion.[/FONT]
 

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I think people feel superior when they see how many E's seem to REFUSE to understand how alone time is refreshing, yet we can think abstractly to understand why they like being near peoples.

so they seem to be lacking... therefore we must be special
 

Mondorius

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Lots of great, thought provoking posts here.

Do I feel superior? Used to. When I was a kid, I had good grades for very little work. That gave me confidence, but also led to overall laziness. I can easily picture the feeling of superiority being a defense mechanism as previously mentionned, due to how I mostly failed physically and socially.

Then I started to feel inferior when both physical condition and social abilities became more important, as in high school. But I still had nice grades.

Something of a tl;dr would be, I kind of feel inferior, know I am equal in that I can perform better in some fields and worse in others and want to be superior. I can totally associate with whoever said they felt like a dud, watching others actually doing things.

So yeah, I'm yet another INTP who gets interested in a variety of entry level jobs/studies but ultimately quits after getting familiar with it due to lack of interest/motivation/dedication.

But I had a completely crazy thought for someone living in a society where achievements and performance are the foundations of identity and recognition:
What if we didn't HAVE to be all we can be, what if we could just be who we WANT to be?

Then I laughed, I kept on thinking about lots of things.


 
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