What makes an XXXJ an XXXJ?

[13lack_Light]

What I mean by my title is, what makes them become more of a J person? Is it on the Nature side or the Nurture side? I envy people to a certain extent, because it seems to me that these guys don't procrastinate as often.

Procrastination is really starting to affect my life, and stuff I should do just never gets done. I'm sure other people in here have the same problem, and I'm trying to figure out what it is on a psychological level that somehow gives these people the drive to finish what they start. To do lists and stuff don't last long, and I sometimes put off writing down what I have to do. I'm wondering what goes on in their head to see if maybe that can help somehow change my ways.

I know that if I don't figure out a way to solve this problem, it will prevent me from keeping a stable job that pays above minimum wage. I'm not saying money means everything to me, but if I'm going to work 40 hours a week, I want that work to provide me with more than what I need to barely get by.

Am I going about this the wrong way? I'm kind of trying to bring about change kind of on a psychological level, to try and get a more effective permanent solution, rather than little band-aid-type fixes like to-do lists, or simply telling myself using logic that its best to do the work, so you can open more career doors in the future.

Comment away.

 

[Words]

You can't let theoretical nature get ahead of your thinking. Just go.

 

[Moocow]

You could wait until procrastination destroys you academically or financially, and then I think you'll probably stop procrastinating.

Procrastination just comes down to discipline. Don't try to rationalize it as genetic or anything like that, because the habit can change as quickly as you force it. I think a lot of discipline comes from what you simply tell yourself you can do. Just as well, you'll only be as lazy as you allow yourself to be.

 

[shoeless]

P's may be more naturally inclined to procrastinate. they may become drained at the prospect of doing activities in a timely matter. especially work, yuck.

but that doesn't mean you can't do it. it's easy to go against nature. you just have to get in the mindset and don't succumb to your inherent preferences, or get into that train of thinking where you tell yourself you can't help it.

 

[EditorOne]

Sometimes we get so into the personality stuff that we overlook the physical. Are you lethargic, or truly procrastinating? Because if there's lack of energy behind everything, it could be due to lack of calories or vitamins or exercise or illness.

Just suggesting possibilities.

As to what makes an xxxJ an xxxJ: Caffeine?

 

[BigApplePi]

P's are open to possibilities; J's are picky. Let me think of a case where a P must act like a J. Try postponing going to the bathroom. You can't do it. You MUST take action and act like a J. Now why is that?

 

[intuitivet]

It just takes effort and motivation. I decided to stop putting it on hold and that I WOULD write a story. I basically said to myself, "You aren't coming off the computer until you've written a page tonight." So, for a couple of nights I didn't sleep much and then I started to condition myself to write AND do other things too, so I can now complete a page a night quite easily.
Rewards are also good. If you do something on time i.e. pay the bills when they arrive, then you can reward yourself with relaxing or doing something you want to for the evening.

 

[wadlez]

What I mean by my title is, what makes them become more of a J person? Is it on the Nature side or the Nurture side?

Carl jung argues that it is nature or at least shaped very early, I agree because I have been an INTP my whole life.

The final letter of the four is used to show the which functions are extroverted and introverted. The INTP's Primary function is Introverted Thinking, if we had a J instead of a P it would be Introverted iNtuition. What makes a type assertive, pratical and all the characteristics typical of J's is whether there first Extroverted function falls on a Judgment function (T or F) or a Perceiving function (S or N). Since an INTP's first Extroverted function is Extroverted iNtuition we are a P type.

To begin, Introversion means a concern with your subjective world first and gets energy from within, compared to Extroversion which is concerned with the objective first and gets the energy from the outer world.
A INTP is more inclined to procrastinate than most other types as the primary function Introverted Thinking has them thinking deeply and developing theorys/ideas only with subjective goals in mind, not caring for there application or whether there of any practical use in the real world. Since INTPS are more into the theoretical part of things they also do not really concern themselves with actually putting an idea into use once it is complete, rather they jump to another idea so they can continue theorizing.

This is not all bad though as this makes our Thinking the most creative. I suggest getting into work which allows you to put your most powerfull function into use (see here).
Apart from that you can just try really hard to stop procrastinating, force yourself into a good routine, behavioural conditioning etc

 

[BigApplePi]

Carl jung argues that it is nature or at least shaped very early, I agree because I have been an INTP my whole life.

The final letter of the four is used to show the which functions are extroverted and introverted. The INTP's Primary function is Introverted Thinking, if we had a J instead of a P it would be Introverted iNtuition. What makes a type assertive, pratical and all the characteristics typical of J's is whether there first Extroverted function falls on a Judgment function (T or F) or a Perceiving function (S or N). Since an INTP's first Extroverted function is Extroverted iNtuition we are a P type.

To begin, Introversion means a concern with your subjective world first and gets energy from within, compared to Extroversion which is concerned with the objective first and gets the energy from the outer world.
A INTP is more inclined to procrastinate than most other types as the primary function Introverted Thinking has them thinking deeply and developing theorys/ideas only with subjective goals in mind, not caring for there application or whether there of any practical use in the real world. Since INTPS are more into the theoretical part of things they also do not really concern themselves with actually putting an idea into use once it is complete, rather they jump to another idea so they can continue theorizing.

This is not all bad though as this makes our Thinking the most creative. I suggest getting into work which allows you to put your most powerfull function into use (see here).
Apart from that you can just try really hard to stop procrastinating, force yourself into a good routine, behavioural conditioning etc

Not sure if you have answered your own Q about J and nature or nurture. If one assumes introversion and extroversion have a nature origin, then anyone who spends time looking inward focuses on inward decisions. They do plenty of choosing when it comes to thinking. If one's external situation puts pressure on one, then one will be inclined to take up external action to solve it or resist if one doesn't care to be controlled by taking no action. That would point to J being nature (external forces) acting with internal temperament. If ones external situation puts no pressure on one, there is no need for action.

Once one's world becomes a world of action, one may take pleasure in continuing that. That would be neither nature nor nurture.

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