I wish I had found this place years ago

[ShameFace]

but I'm here now.


hello, I'm Danny. I'm 35 years old and I hail from the mean streets of Downtown L.A. by way of the oppressive suburbs of Los Angeles.

I'm a common laborer, GED recipient with a modest community college education, hoping to start earning a modest living gambling. I have a studio apartment I've been living in for the past 5 years, but have not paid this months rent, so that I can start saving money by living in my Dodge camper van.
I have a few hobbies that I'm currently doing as well as some things I look forward to trying out in the near future.
I recently resumed training in the martial arts, at a MMA school nearby. I practice jui-jitsu, mostly. It's a lot of fun, great exercise and really is more cerebral than most people realize.
I like to read but love writing more. Short stories and comedy being my two favorite types of writing.

I've recently become very interested in the idea of homesteading/farming/off the grid living.
I hope to one day leave the city and start my own tiny farm somewhere in AZ or possibly NM, where I can regulate my social interactions, noise pollution and hear my self think (and thus write more/better stuff).

No wife or kids, but I am lucky enough to have a lesbian friend who allows me to feel connected (to her vagina).

I was raised Catholic, but ditched that stuff when I was in my late teens. However, I have always retained a devotion to probing existential questions and have always tried to keep an open mind when it comes to this matter.
So I'm no longer a true atheist, but have come to the conclusion that the universe has some sort of order to it. People would probably never know it by looking at me, but I'm kind of hippy (who are really just new age Indians) at my core.

It's very rare that I ever come across people who seem to be INTP's, so it's really nice to have stumbled onto this forum.

I think I covered the basics with regards to me. Feel free to ask me anything you want.

 

[SpaceYeti]

On a 1-10 scale, where do you place Adventure Time?

 

[ShameFace]

Never watched it. Sorry.

 

[EditorOne]

"I am lucky enough to have a lesbian friend who allows me to feel connected (to her vagina)."

Now, that's interesting and I'm pretty sure we have not encountered any such solution - because it is, when you think about it, a solution to a number of INTP-troubling issues - in any previous introduction.

So you've made your mark already.

Welcome aboard. Expect some inanity.

 

[ShameFace]

Thank you, Editor.

I didnt plan on blazing any new trails, but I'm glad to share any insights about living as an INTP that I may have.

 

[Nick]

Welcome aboard, I'm in the new boat too.

Any recent ideas or thoughts that you might have had that many people would have a hard time grasping or following?

I love to hear the randomness that comes of INTPs and the intricate details.

 

[ShameFace]

Thank you, Nick.

I can't think of any unique insights I have. at the moment. Most of my musings probably just seem like common sense to most INTP's.

 

[JASSY]

but I'm here now.


hello, I'm Danny. I'm 35 years old and I hail from the mean streets of Downtown L.A. by way of the oppressive suburbs of Los Angeles.

I'm a common laborer, GED recipient with a modest community college education, hoping to start earning a modest living gambling. I have a studio apartment I've been living in for the past 5 years, but have not paid this months rent, so that I can start saving money by living in my Dodge camper van.
I have a few hobbies that I'm currently doing as well as some things I look forward to trying out in the near future.
I recently resumed training in the martial arts, at a MMA school nearby. I practice jui-jitsu, mostly. It's a lot of fun, great exercise and really is more cerebral than most people realize.
I like to read but love writing more. Short stories and comedy being my two favorite types of writing.

I've recently become very interested in the idea of homesteading/farming/off the grid living.
I hope to one day leave the city and start my own tiny farm somewhere in AZ or possibly NM, where I can regulate my social interactions, noise pollution and hear my self think (and thus write more/better stuff).

No wife or kids, but I am lucky enough to have a lesbian friend who allows me to feel connected (to her vagina).

I was raised Catholic, but ditched that stuff when I was in my late teens. However, I have always retained a devotion to probing existential questions and have always tried to keep an open mind when it comes to this matter.
So I'm no longer a true atheist, but have come to the conclusion that the universe has some sort of order to it. People would probably never know it by looking at me, but I'm kind of hippy (who are really just new age Indians) at my core.

It's very rare that I ever come across people who seem to be INTP's, so it's really nice to have stumbled onto this forum.

I think I covered the basics with regards to me. Feel free to ask me anything you want.

Finding this Forum is such a relief . Are finding other INTPs that rare ? It seems as though ive never come across other INTPs. I wonder how much of a percentege of us are around.

 

[JASSY]

Welcome aboard, I'm in the new boat too.

Any recent ideas or thoughts that you might have had that many people would have a hard time grasping or following?

I love to hear the randomness that comes of INTPs and the intricate details.

Nick , is it just me or are we (INTP) random ? or is it others who percieve us as random ?

 

[ShameFace]

Finding this Forum is such a relief . Are finding other INTPs that rare ? It seems as though ive never come across other INTPs. I wonder how much of a percentege of us are around.

I think INTP's represent a very small percentage of the population. Pretty sure I recall reading that, at some point.

How did you find this forum?

I came across it on accident, while I was doing a Google search on Nicotine patches and vivid dreams.

 

[JASSY]

ive heard different numbers being thrown around but not out of a credible source.
wow ! i wonder how you went from nicotine patches to intp forums. well i wanted to learn more about intp and stubbled upon this by accident

 

[BigApplePi]

Hello. I'm here too. I've heard that INTP's are clumsy people who don't know if their heads are screwed on strait. That doesn't seem right for those I've come across here who at least know how to say something. You seem like you know what your talking about and have a good program of what to do. Is that right? Welcome to this board again.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Never watched it. Sorry.

Why not?! It's awesome!

Seriously, though, welcome to the forum. You'll get your fill of both fun and serious.

 

[ShameFace]

Why not?! It's awesome!

Seriously, though, welcome to the forum. You'll get your fill of both fun and serious.

I'll take your word for it or wait for the universe to work its way into my consciousness.

Thanks for the welcome.

 

[Da Blob]

Living off the grid works if one gets the title on the property first, to reduce the overhead. Sheriff's Auctions are one of the best ways to purchase marginal farmland. One might wish to extend one's search a bit farther east, as there are a lot of opportunities here in Oklahoma for Homesteading. A supply of fresh water is an absolute must, for any prospective homestead, and such is relatively scarce in the Western states.

There are volumes of DIY projects concerning homesteading. One of my favorite sources of information are old copies of The Mother Earth News. One can begin a slow accumulation of the objects necessary for a successful homestead. Here in Oklahoma there are local auctions in small rural towns where one can pick up such for pennies on the dollar, I do not know if such exist out west.

Anyway, welcome and good luck escaping from the Inner City, few make it out alive from that prison camp, to live in the freedom of the God-made world.

 

[Montresor]

I daydream all the time about living off-grid in a densely forested area in the Rocky Mountains.

All the things I would build out of the trees I had to cut down to clear out my lot.................................

 

[Da Blob]

Seriously, just search Keywords: Sheriff Auction State (of interest)

One can get on mailing lists to be notified about upcoming auctions. We had a property adjacent to us, comprised of 200 acres of beautiful virgin woods with a dozen ponds and with a decent house sell for $14,000 dollars at a sheriff's auction. No one wanted it because it would have taken too great of an investment to make a significant financial profit.

The old man who bought it, wasn't looking to make money, just find a wonderful home to live in the rest of his life...

EDIT: Target properties are small places bordering a state or national park, one gets a very large back yard that way...

 

[ShameFace]

Living off the grid works if one gets the title on the property first, to reduce the overhead. Sheriff's Auctions are one of the best ways to purchase marginal farmland. One might wish to extend one's search a bit farther east, as there are a lot of opportunities here in Oklahoma for Homesteading. A supply of fresh water is an absolute must, for any prospective homestead, and such is relatively scarce in the Western states.

There are volumes of DIY projects concerning homesteading. One of my favorite sources of information are old copies of The Mother Earth News. One can begin a slow accumulation of the objects necessary for a successful homestead. Here in Oklahoma there are local auctions in small rural towns where one can pick up such for pennies on the dollar, I do not know if such exist out west.

Anyway, welcome and good luck escaping from the Inner City, few make it out alive from that prison camp, to live in the freedom of the God-made world.

Thank you for the welcome and your suggestions. I definitely hope to buy a small (1-2 acres) piece of land for cash if possible.
So far I've been limited to web searches, but have heard from homesteaders online that auctions were a good place to purchase cheap land compared to most realty companies.

I've never been to Oklahoma. I'm kind of partial to the southwest, but I never know how things might change. If it gets humid there though, count me out.

I was looking into the mountainous region of Arizona, where the elevation is higher and they get more snow and rainfall. That way I could catch at least a portion of my water supply.
Figured I'd have a couple raised gardens, so I wouldn't have to give any consideration to whether the soil on the land was fertile or not. Although it would be nice to have some pecan trees
For meat, I was thinking mostly fish and rabbits I'll either trap or raise. But not opposed to eating any other game I might catch deer, elk, quails, rattlesnakes, etc
Egg laying chickens and goats for my milk, butter, yogurt, cheese, etc.

If anyone has any insight or personal experience with this kind of stuff, please feel free to critique or add to my plan.

 

[ShameFace]

I daydream all the time about living off-grid in a densely forested area in the Rocky Mountains.

All the things I would build out of the trees I had to cut down to clear out my lot.................................

I'm the same. I'm either researching the subject or day dreaming about it.

I'd like to have a sweat lodge/sauna made of adobe.

 

[Da Blob]

The problem with some western states is that wealthy people divested water rights from property rights long ago. A landowner may not have legal title to any of the water on his or her property, not even rainfall and have to try to buy water rights in addition to surface rights, (not to mention mineral rights).

The size of a property needed to sustain life varies from region to region. while it is true that given enough resources, good soil and plenty of water, 2.5 acres can be enough for a family to survive on ( one can grow a tremendous amount of food in a one acre garden), generally it takes a lot more land. However, in sparsely populated areas it is often possible to lease property long term from out of state owners for just a pittance per acre. I know one wealthy person that just owns the 10 acres where his home has been built, but he leases 1800 acres for less than the annual interest on the loan, that would be required to buy that land.

BTW - the Chinese provide a very good model to imitate when it comes to getting the most out of a small piece of land...

 

[MichiganJFrog]

The problem with some western states is that wealthy people divested water rights from property rights long ago. A landowner may not have legal title to any of the water on his or her property, not even rainfall

Happened in Bolivia, too: Leasing the Rain.

Anyway, wilkommen. Probably the most interesting intro I've seen in a while.

 

[ShameFace]

The problem with some western states is that wealthy people divested water rights from property rights long ago. A landowner may not have legal title to any of the water on his or her property, not even rainfall and have to try to buy water rights in addition to surface rights, (not to mention mineral rights).

The size of a property needed to sustain life varies from region to region. while it is true that given enough resources, good soil and plenty of water, 2.5 acres can be enough for a family to survive on ( one can grow a tremendous amount of food in a one acre garden), generally it takes a lot more land. However, in sparsely populated areas it is often possible to lease property long term from out of state owners for just a pittance per acre. I know one wealthy person that just owns the 10 acres where his home has been built, but he leases 1800 acres for less than the annual interest on the loan, that would be required to buy that land.

BTW - the Chinese provide a very good model to imitate when it comes to getting the most out of a small piece of land...

Interesting.

I guess thats one more thing I'll have to look into, when researching properties.


If a family can live on 2.5 then 1-2 acres should be more than enough for just myself. As I don't plan on starting a family any time soon. The only family I could see living there would be my dear ole mom. And I'd force her to eat light.

Anyway, wilkommen. Probably the most interesting intro I've seen in a while.

Thank you for the welcome, and glad you found my intro interesting. Wanted to give a thorough survey of who I am.

That's a very grim story you posted about Bolivia but interesting. And here, I thought if things didnt work out for me in the states, I could move down to South America.

 

[Kuu]

I've recently become very interested in the idea of homesteading/farming/off the grid living.
I hope to one day leave the city and start my own tiny farm somewhere in AZ or possibly NM, where I can regulate my social interactions, noise pollution and hear my self think (and thus write more/better stuff).

It's somewhat of a recurrent topic among some people here.

Welcome and whatnot.

 

[ShameFace]

It's somewhat of a recurrent topic among some people here.

Welcome and whatnot.

Thank you for the welcome.


And to everyone else who responded as well.