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MLK's "I have a dream" speech gives a good example. He was passionate and his argument was full of feeling along with good reason for his stance and plea for change.

Aren't you assuming there is a true/false in a debate or dinner-table argument? Most things that are argued ARE value judgements (right/wrong) and highly subjective. When taking a stance on a topic, there is always pros and cons. Seems to me having strong convictions with feelings attached to...

If there's money to be made, they'll do it. The tyranny of the lowest common denominator rules in popular consumption. Of course we all have the choice to consume or not. And we can voice our opinion but I find whenever I say something to my friends that debunks the shit they are into, I'm not...

Are you yourself inhabiting the real world? If so, then you affect it. The act of struggling, of seeking, pondering and searching IS the action that affects both the individual and others. The experience (rather than the delineated philosophy) I believe to be the energy that sends ripples and...

This is very late in the game as I wasn't registered as a participant but if you haven't found someone, here are some of the things to look for. BTW, interviewing a therapist is a good way to go about it. *Stay away from therapists who tell you what to do. Any therapist worth their weight will...

I'm not INTP and I doubt this has anything to do with type. You have interesting things to say...I'm pointing out how you say things can be as important as what you say. But enjoy your steak...

As soon as I get my shit together, I'm spinning off your comment and making a post on self-hood, maturity and differentiation. I think this needs an in-depth look.

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You have a point...but the result is defensiveness. If you want to make a point, you may want to re-think put-downs and sarcasm. It may feel good to vent your irritation but you'll eventually be on the defensive as others attack you all the while your good point gets lost.

Here's another thought...in our quest for the objective truth, we attempt to divorce ourselves form our subjectivity. What if this detachment is the very thing that leads to a lack of objectivity?

You are essentially asking the meaning as to why humans want meaning. All questions of "why" imply meaning. Consciousness begets the drive for meaning. It's who we are. We are "meaning-makers". I don't think we can get away from it. Even the thought that there is no meaning makes me wonder about...

Would my consciousness retain memory of my past in a sensing, deteriorating body? If so, that might be the definition of hell. A type of "I must scream but have no mouth". The memories of physical touch and the craving of touch would drive me mad as my robot body could in no way connect and my...

I would add those who are unwillingly to see their own evil or nasty side are the most pernicious especially to those they love.

This...Others are a mirror to our evil as I am a mirror to their evil.

We all extrovert certain aspects of ourselves to the delight or detriment of others. My Fe could exert warmth for others to bask in and you feel particularly understood but it could feel manipulative or critical when I over step my self assurance. Both is in my nature. I am to be both accepted...

If experience/interacting is the essence, then the question is rendered to a statement. Experience informs and transforms the world and myself. You're immortal and dead at the same time.

This and I'll add that although I'm more calm in the face of difficulties or successes, it never gets easier. What I mean by this is no matter what age you are, you're placed in a position where you grapple with difficult choices. You're confronted by your limitations and time itself impacts you...

I've had the very same thoughts. It's almost like a downward spiral that feeds on itself with the outcome being the end of the value it started out with. I wonder if this process you reference is the testing ground of what becomes a "classic" with lasting value over time?

I saw one of his video's on introversion and he specifically said he was INTP. If I find it, I'll direct you to it.

Maybe it's an illusion when you contemplate the question but is real through experiencing life. Experience is a leap of faith possibly...As a child doubts not it's existence. If you experience life, you're taking a leap of faith. Why did you ask the forum? The act itself belies some faith.

Math? Consciousness? Sex? My brain hurts:confused:

Wow, and all within one sentence!

Ha! Some would find that irresistible and adorable (the awkward expression of affection, not masturbating in public...that's creepy) :o

I applaud Eisen! My estimation of NASA has gone down even understanding that NASA probably received money from Science Mag. Shame on the Science magazine too!

Nothing wrong with Idealists:) When you hold tightly to the outcome, you lose yourself and become a slave to the outcome. Totally agree, enjoying the process and journey of striving (fill in the blank) is the way to be free. This seems to be particularly relevant to INTJ and INFJ. The Ni-Se...

I think you've answered your original question...You're ambivalent but you don't REALLY want to change. When you really WANT something different, you'll know what to do.

You want to be wanted but you don't want to want! You laude your ability to manipulate and get attention, sex, feeling desired by women. At the same time you lack respect for the women because they allowed themselves to be manipulated. YOU set the dynamic up with your INTENSIONS. Maybe this is...

It's alright to analyze it but DO enjoy it. My wish for you is that you keep on discovering more facets of yourself.

You want to be wanted but you don't want to want. To really let yourself want someone, you have to be vulnerable and exposed to being hurt by them. Power is much easier then desire. You can't have both connection and safety, they are mutually exclusive. You decide...

The trap many fall into is the easy fixes. Beware. It's enticing but false. As much of the advice you've been given is spot on, I won't go on except to say I was married to an alcoholic. The downward spiral of a good person is devastating.

Re: Self Entitlement? Can't it? It's a higher order of freedom that can be achieved within the individual found in mutuality.

Re: Self Entitlement? It most assuredly does. Is there anything wrong with that?:D

Re: Self Entitlement? Freedom cannot just reside within the individual but has to be conceived by the juxtaposition of self to others. Freedom comes from mastering yourself to make room for others' freedom.

I guess what I was saying is the ability to set aside emotion and use thinking is laudable and very useful but sometimes emotion can and should be used. In your example, you set aside feeling unjustly accused to focus on the solution and didn't compound matters by interjecting hurt feeling into...

No, you're right there. The punishment is for those that have been lied to, stolen from and bullied by. Some form of retribution for the victim rather than the perpetrator. Laws sometimes have the paradoxical effect of aiding the perpetrator to concoct better ways to circumvent punishment. I...

So are we saying the same thing? There are situations that call for you to act on emotions and those that call you to act based on thinking. You could be wrong in either case. Any decision you make has to be made in doubt. You can't know if your thinking based decision is any better than a...

I'd like to ask...is there a fear of emotions with INTPs and if so, why? Is it because you fear loss of control? If so, how do you expect to master control if you push them aside? Emotions are useful if harnessed and given a voice (along with thinking) in decisions or actions. There are...

I would imagine liars, bullies and thiefs when lied to, bullied and stolen from vindicates their behavior and provides justification to continue in like fashion. There are those unfortunates who need fear of punishment to help keep them in check.

Love: The expression of inner beauty and the palpable awareness of the beauty in others Integrity: A solid flexible "self" that is in dynamic flow Courage: Ability to face what is to be faced and transcend

I'm a bit messed up right now but I'd paint my type on my naked body as a conversation starter...easy for me to say behind a computer screen. Should have posted on the drunken thread.