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I didn't see this one coming...had a great Christmas! Presents kept to a minimum, low key and casual atmosphere. Lots of small talk yes, but joking around, games of ping-pong, bowling and guessing games. Laughter-a-plenty and seeing my children enjoying themselves gave me great joy.

LMAO:D

With little energy and little motivation, I got a few gifts. Spent most of my time being with friends so far...a little drinking and toking, lots of good conversation. It's nice to get home and read the forum. Get your Christmas on any which way you can. Peace to all.

I use Fe as part of my top function so a show of inferior Fe via some of the examples told here, is reassuring and a connecting point. It's sweet and makes you approachable. I think it's rather charming and I enjoy reading about your inferior Fe moments:rolleyes:

I'm abstract random (INFJ). There probably is some correlation between personality types and learning styles. ENTP could easily fit the concrete random...

Thanks Dux (hope you don't mind me calling you that). I feel the virtual hug :o and my Ti thanks you and the forum for the exercise!

Like Jenny, I'm speaking from my own experience and not necessarily a theoretical framework. You're young and trying to understand and I commend that but you can't get to true growth through your intellect alone. All my life I've analyzed myself, my family dynamics, my relationship dynamics...

Goodness! That's a lot of INFJs! I have to say that INTPs are one of my favorites. I don't know many irl but they amuse me to no end. Their child-like Fe makes me want to hug them. There is nothing so endearing as their pure (and often hilarious) expressions when they have a bit of romantic...

For real growth (individuation, differentiation, transcendence etc...) to occur, you have to DO (not just think about) something that's usually scary and that takes courage. You have to ask yourself hard questions and own your dark side. How many people want to do that? With maturation, you have...

I was on Reddit INTP one day and an ENFJ female made a post to say hello and offer to answer any questions INTPs might have....It was an onslaught of INTP males tripping over each other to try and 'get in' with her! Hilarious! Blaten Fe allure. I think I'd have to agree with you that INFJ...

The self narration comes across poetic with nuance. Makes me feel for your character. Read all of it so far...you have a talent. Is this an amalgamation of fantasy and personal experience?

INFJs unite! ;) I actually like the diversity (INTJ, ENTP, INFP). Funny too how when I read a number of posts by a particular person, I can usually tell what their type is. I've read the INFJ forum but I like it here instead because of the interesting topics and I hope it helps hone my Ti. I do...

Shakespearean Updo...we need to create this product and market it. That, along with our salicylic acid, and we should do quite well! :smoker:

You get it! It is about loving the imperfect person AND the soaring both are capable of. Why settle for "good enough" when you can shoot for so much more:) As for my language, it tends to be poetic, metaphorical but bald faced facts just doesn't capture what my mind/feeling/being is trying...

Lovely! Thank you.

A willow for sure. I need water to grow. I bend and don't break. I give salicylic acid for hurts, shade for those in need, and my roots are so deep that it's hard to shake me :) Welcome to the clutter and feel free to add to it!

Love IS noble. The pursuit of an ideal. It will probably never come to full fruition but the pursuit and progress toward that romantic goal makes it 'divine' or transcendent. The motivations you have/I have, makes it so. I don't know about you or anyone else, but I want life and love to be MORE...

"A solid sense of self develops from confronting yourself, challenging yourself to do what's right, and earning your own self-respect."

Of course I'm unique and so is everyone else. The fact that I'm writing on this forum, the impact I've had on others, the impact others have had on me, my life experiences and interplays with significant people all contribute to a subtle 'flavor' (no, that doesn't mean you have to lick me ;))

I'm new here too but from what I can tell, there are many atheists, agnostics and a few theists. Welcome from another novice.

For me, when I get excited about someone with potential, I find admirable aspects about them and when they express something they admire in me, I start to fall in love with my reflection. This radiates back on them and the cycle continues. The possibilities for something real are at the...

I don't think so but I'm not familiar (never saw the opera). Googled it and found it to be a love triangle. What do you mean?

Romantic love and committed relationships are for GROWTH. One of my favorite quotes: "Approached in this light, committed relationships become epic dramas of heroism rather than soap operas. The suffering and strife inherent in marriage are as purposeful as its delights. Hugh and Gail Prather...

Ok, I 'outed' no one...so all that's left to do is http://ncrenegade.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Pig-Mud-Wallow-to-Make-Romans-Jealous.jpg

Well going by your rule of thumb, unless you're a neurologist, you shouldn't mention understanding of the brain in a philosophy thread. That's just a ludicrous rule of thumb and I'm not bound by it. I can connect ideas in various fields as I see fit, just as you did in your post. I acknowledge I...

Inferior Fe? Or you secretly love to wallow in emotions.

That's a nice neat package you represented but maybe you're not taking into account what could be a boundary/limitation that all the universe is subject to. Namely the act of observation changes what is perceived. As in quantum physics experiments.

I think you bring up a good question. The question becomes is intelligence necessary and/or sufficient. You could infer that intelligence is not sufficient to proliferation. It's not even necessary when you think about all the organisms such as krill, amebas, etc..Intelligence is only one...

Spot on. As an INFJ, and a mature one at that (aka "old"), I do feel deeply but I've learned to modulate emotions using Ti. I'm not ruled by feeling...it may be my 'go to' reaction but I can choose to give sway to both thinking and feeling. Often this comes out as empathic carefully thought out...

Another thought in the mix. Underneath this question is the notion of right or wrong course of action. Whose to say if acting on a projection will lead to poor results? Maybe the more important thing is the process of examining yourself (motivation, intent etc...) and having the courage to act...

Yes, projection can masquerade as intuition. I think you're referring to the role of the inferior function. Intuition is always coupled by a judging function (Ti or Fe in the INTP case). I think you have to use your other functions to double check if projection or intuition. Your first clue is...

I'm not INTP but when I have an emotional problem I think about it and come to my own conclusions but the act of sharing my thought process and feelings ends up clarifying the situation. It's not so much needing advice but it's a similar process when I debate an issue. I may start out having a...

I'd say they are better at orchestrating and structuring how things get done through management of people who do the work. It's not that ENTJs aren't doing work, they most certainly are. It's just they excel at pushing other's to get shit done. I've only known one ENTJ in a dating situation and...

On a basic level, fantasy is preparation for possibilities. That has survival value. Children pretend play and get lost in fantasy as a way to try on different roles in preparation for life. Fantasy can also be used to ease the tedium and boredom of life. Personally, my own fantasies are most...

If ENTJs are better suited for leadership positions such as CEO's, CFO's or Chief ___ of corporations then one of the reasons for high salary is the fact that leadership positions are just much better compensated especially in the US. If degree of compensation was based on societal impact...

My idea isn't practical. I just went with the thread and threw out an admittedly idealistic thought. If pressed on this maybe the way libraries do? Public funds. Research will still be compensated through grants and standard ways currently. Authors, fiction or non-fiction, are maybe sponsored?

Going off of RaBind, make access to the Internet available for all and have the Internet house ALL books, articles, etc...in other words all recorded information.

My INTJ brother and I were quite close and similar too.

Re: INTP Parents Sparrow is banned but I quoted because my mom would fit this description to a degree. I'm INFJ so not totally in line with the intent of the thread but...My family: Mom: INFJ I don't think I EVER heard her back down or admit she was wrong or sorry about something she said...

Re: INTP Parents I loved the way you wrote this...I felt like I really got a sense of what's it was like to live in your family. The love seems evident:)

Thank you for your description. I know for me it's difficult to describe and the allegory does capture the stark difference before and after the experience. It's also true that to try and convey this experience to those who haven't experienced something similar, will fall on deaf ears. As I...

I've not studied Buddhism but thank you for the information! Funny how I said nothing new as the phrase goes...it's all been said/experienced before! Onward :elephant:

Indeed. I think this is highly probable. Most of humanity is driven to chase after falsity or go down paths that lead to dead ends. This is because of how imperfect and self-deluding we are or neurosis as the Jungian concept talks about. This is our attempt to be whole and usually includes...

In the immortal words of Homer Simpson, Doh! :facepalm:

Grayman, I think tools are a good way to look at calm/passionate so I agree with you. What about my last part didn't fit? I'm truly interested...

Huh? School me.

I'll throw another wrinkle in this...the most interesting arguments (in my humble opinion) are not about true/false but about what we value. Ex: Seat belt laws. Most arguments are not about whether or not seat belts save lives (many studies support that they do) but should the government dictate...

It's a paradox. To live enlightenment is at once humility and power at once. It frees oneself and at the same time empowers you. Intent is key here. You can't have intensions of power in gaining enlightenment. The power comes AFTER.

I think what's behind this post is the fear of being manipulated by emotion. Given a particular charismatic person impassioned by his/her pleas, can easily manipulate the masses. There is good reason to be skeptical but it doesn't have to be the case that the intent is to manipulate. We as...