Drinking Alone...and drinking in general.

[Dicomedy]

Grim topic for an introduction, I know.

For some reason anytime I bring up the fact that I like to drink alone, people get all bent of shape. I even have things I call whiskey nights where I just drink a bunch of whiskey and reflect onto my self. I personally consider it healthy to do this, others are worried about me, for whatever reason. But I only do this once a month at most. But I love to disconnect my internet turn my phone off, light a candle and just sip booze until I'm sleepy thinking about everything and anything.

I think it may be because I tend to get pretty damn drunk when I go out with friends at a bar. But it tends to be that way because the social lubricant that alcohol offers seems to work so well! But I'm thinking they might consider me a drunk. Regardless of what I say they're still worried about this.

I guess what I'm trying to say is if anyone else have had to deal with this bizarre topic.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

You reference the electric boogaloo. I like you.

I see nothing wrong with your actions so long as you aren't in the midst of denial about addiction, etc. Reflection is beneficial.

I noticed that I drink in the classic alcoholic/depression pattern in an attempt to comfort myself, hence I now refrain from drinking entirely except for social affairs. Though I hate whiskey. I'm more of a gin/absinthe/everclear tincture kind of guy.

 

[Magus]

Grim topic for an introduction, I know.

For some reason anytime I bring up the fact that I like to drink alone, people get all bent of shape. I even have things I call whiskey nights where I just drink a bunch of whiskey and reflect onto my self. I personally consider it healthy to do this, others are worried about me, for whatever reason. But I only do this once a month at most. But I love to disconnect my internet turn my phone off, light a candle and just sip booze until I'm sleepy thinking about everything and anything.

I think it may be because I tend to get pretty damn drunk when I go out with friends at a bar. But it tends to be that way because the social lubricant that alcohol offers seems to work so well! But I'm thinking they might consider me a drunk. Regardless of what I say they're still worried about this.

I guess what I'm trying to say is if anyone else have had to deal with this bizarre topic.

I was thinking about making a thread about this very topic!

I do it quite often, maybe once a week/fortnight for the last month or so but usually only once a month at most (I'm in a relatively stressful period at the moment).

I likewise enjoy thinking by myself, put on some ambiant music in the background and its nearly my idea of a perfect evening. It isn't something I raise with others because there is definitely a strong stigma attached to it.

On the other hand, I don't often drink with others, despite living at a university college, so perhaps it balances out. I know it isn't a healthy habit to develop but I find it such a pleasant way to unwind from stress while still being able to think about whatever it is that is bothering me, just in a slightly more detached way.

Rumour has it that I'm sipping at a bottle of Glenlivet 12 as we speak. Also welcome to the forum!

 

[walfin]

I drink nightly to help me sleep (but only a little). Does that count?

Nothing so strong as you folks though. Only wine.

 

[Absurdity]

I did this when I was living in Virginia recently. Difference was I was broke and in VA you can't buy liquor at the grocery store (and the liquor store was too far of a walk), so I would pick up a $2 bottle of Argentine wine. Wasn't all that bad.

I'd drink about half the bottle, have a few cigarettes, and write. Journaling mostly. Helped me work through some things.

Now I'm back at school living on campus and sitting outside drinking and chain smoking is generally frowned upon if not illegal, so I don't do it. I do miss it sometimes though.

 

[Cherry Cola]

INTP's can be pretty hilarious or pretty damn annoying once they are drunk to the point that their inferior Fe takes over and they become as emotional (if not more than the avg) as any other drunk. From my observation it requires quite a lot of alcohol for an INTP to reach that state though.

Also Alcohol fucking sucks and people should smoke weed instead. Seriously. Alcohol kills in many different insidious ways, alcohol damages in many insidious ways, alcohol tastes like a poison because it is one, alcohol makes you fucking stupid, alcohol ruins half the next day.

Weed kills no one, it does some insidious damage by passivising some people (although this factor is likely enhanced by its illegal status, prompting reclusiveness during consumption, and if consumption is somewhat regular... yeah go figure), weed is harmless to smoke and barely tastes anything if you use a vaporizer, weed makes your memory worse but other than that it changes your cognitive state rather than turn you into a reptile like alcohol, weed gives you a chilly buzz and very slight fatigue the next day. Its not good if youre gonna work, but if you can chill it really does nothing.

Fuck alcohol

 

[Duxwing]

INTP's can be pretty hilarious or pretty damn annoying once they are drunk to the point that their inferior Fe takes over and they become as emotional (if not more than the avg) as any other drunk. From my observation it requires quite a lot of alcohol for an INTP to reach that state though.

Also Alcohol fucking sucks and people should smoke weed instead. Seriously. Alcohol kills in many different insidious ways, alcohol damages in many insidious ways, alcohol tastes like a poison because it is one, alcohol makes you fucking stupid, alcohol ruins half the next day.

Weed kills no one, it does some insidious damage by passivising some people (although this factor is likely enhanced by its illegal status, prompting reclusiveness during consumption, and if consumption is somewhat regular... yeah go figure), weed is harmless to smoke and barely tastes anything if you use a vaporizer, weed makes your memory worse but other than that it changes your cognitive state rather than turn you into a reptile like alcohol, weed gives you a chilly buzz and very slight fatigue the next day. Its not good if youre gonna work, but if you can chill it really does nothing.

Fuck alcohol

To nitpick:
Weed is more harmless to smoke than cigarettes.
Permanently, oftentimes erasing long term memories of the time during which it was consumed.

I'd say that neither ought to be consumed in the first place.

-Duxwing

 

[Montresor]

I'm drunk. I'm drinking with my buddy. He's INTJ. It's fun.

It's Saturday at 12 PM and the weather is super beautiful, finally.

Lawn drinking in the sun: Love it.

Old Milwaukee, Old Milwaukee BEer!

 

[Brontosaurie]

Grim topic for an introduction, I know.

For some reason anytime I bring up the fact that I like to drink alone, people get all bent of shape. I even have things I call whiskey nights where I just drink a bunch of whiskey and reflect onto my self. I personally consider it healthy to do this, others are worried about me, for whatever reason. But I only do this once a month at most. But I love to disconnect my internet turn my phone off, light a candle and just sip booze until I'm sleepy thinking about everything and anything.

I think it may be because I tend to get pretty damn drunk when I go out with friends at a bar. But it tends to be that way because the social lubricant that alcohol offers seems to work so well! But I'm thinking they might consider me a drunk. Regardless of what I say they're still worried about this.

I guess what I'm trying to say is if anyone else have had to deal with this bizarre topic.

wish i could focus like that

 

[Cherry Cola]

To nitpick:
Weed is more harmless to smoke than cigarettes.
Permanently, oftentimes erasing long term memories of the time during which it was consumed.

I'd say that neither ought to be consumed in the first place.

-Duxwing

I'm sorry that was stupidly written by me, should have specified that I meant that it was more or less harmless for the lungs.

Also you I'm not so sure you can say that weed actively erases memories, it probably has more to do with that they form less clearly. Seeing as your mind jumps around on weed there's not the same coherency in theme to a recollected event where one is high.

Remember that there are upsides to weed, in my mind its something that people could and should decide over on their own. Personally I think the positives outweigh the negatives for me. The relaxement, creativity, joy, and curiosity that weed brings me win over the passivising effect, occasional paranoia, and small temporary effects on my memory. Know I couldnt have drawn my avatar without the 4 or so substances involded. And tons of other stuff. I don't see how you can't see why anybody would do that. Its really not like it doesn't let you lead a completely normal life, or well it is in some aspects, namely those that are due to its illegality in most of the goddamn world.

Did you see where weed ranked in that major brittish university project ordered by the government; thereafter carried out perfectly, but; however; thereafter rejected by the very same government. All despite the study is known to have been carried out methodically sound. They might just not have gotten a message that could serve their purpose; moreover, they must've believed they would 've gotten the right result before sponsoring it, seeing as it was directly counterproductive for them. I believe it should be somewhat easy to find but as I am myself, under formerly mentioned substance, in this moment according to your view under the influence of something you could not see why anyone would want to consume anyway. Thats when I get the flow to be able to write what I want, I find the words come easier; nonetheless, I admittedly am guilty of writing somewhat lenghty sentences.

Also countries where weed is very common there is some evidence that alcohol consumption sinks, now take into account how little damage and the positive effects. Those are individual, -however I did account for mine earlier in my post as an example; however, medical marijuana needs of course also be considered- and you should, if you are willing to think somewhat rationality about the topic, end up with the conclusion that: Alcohol sinking less than weed rises doesn't mean that the deal is necessary bad at all for society in anyway. I don't get how people cant see that. And there is a pretty clear cut way to calculate this. Just compare these two:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annual_cannabis_use_by_country

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption

And if you'd like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis or although there's plenty of sources concerning the subject.

It's pretty indicative. Also please don't say wikipedia sucks, in the example of the aforementioned articles they would be put as possibly inaccurate if they could have. Besides guy who runs wikipedia is one I believe to be an INTP, tis perfect. Anyway now look how weed stands specifically in britain, here's the aforementioned study ordered by the aforementioned countrys government? Well here's two of them:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/11/drugs_cause_most_harm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6474053.stm

And that's just alcohol. There are also indications that cannabis being legal reduces the usage of heavy drugs and mortality rates. The netherlands (a western country and therefore more comparable to ours) being one case.
Here is more though this one's a tad extensive:

http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/91/2/12-108282.pdf

The rest of the post is mainly about Sweden so probs even more off topic. In sweden I think the government could in the very least handle it themselves like they do the alcohol: with a monopoly, indeed I wouldn't even mind that much if they put a monthly limit on the stuff and you had to goddamn go and order it directly from them at first. Filling out formularies and crap, being informed of there being a severe punishment involved in selling it to someone else.

But the question isn't even investigated by those that are against it in sweden, instead they go directly against all levels of logic accusing weed of this, and promising the general populace to reduce its usage among them. And, lastly not to forget spreading disinformation in general, a specific example being: schools, another being on television, although television (and here I mean the two swedish states channels) the papers aren't that good either, but they too have been improving. Lately they do let the side that is for legalisation speak, giving them room to counter the lies. The problem is their view is so much simpler, everything must be the way its been or at least is, oh, so safe and comfy it is! All the while the mortality rate among heavy users also continues to rise, while the right wing parties with the majority like to oppose damage reduction by saying no to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Needle_exchange_programme

And yet they they dare claim monopoly on being the good guys, despite their quite apparent lack of concern for human lives.

Ok post too long sorry

EDIT: ok had tons of errors again but is somewhat fixed hehe

 

[Dicomedy]

So...I was sort of embarrassed that I posted this as my first entry, and kind of refused to return to the topic because of it. However it's nice to see that people agree to an extent. That is - that intoxication is a form of release to center one's thoughts whether it be booze or weed.

Regarding the topic of weed. I think it distracts me too much. I find that it causes me to want to do anything other than what I'm doing regardless, I usually end up just cleaning things or rearranging my room, I don't get the lethargic feeling most get from it. If I drink and smoke weed, I pretty much become a static mass that can only listen and not do much else.

If I drink alone I feel concentrated on my own thoughts and ignore the rest of the world, but if I drink with others I'm enthralled by all and anyone's life, however I realize that I lack sincerity towards it, it's just something to listen to and absorb for my own considerations for future applications. Which I guess is an INTP thing.

Oh, and thehabitatdoctor, every "II" should be followed by "Electric Boogaloo"!

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

So...I was sort of embarrassed that I posted this as my first entry, and kind of refused to return to the topic because of it.

I'd wager that many have discussed far worse. We're mostly perceivers instead of judgers after all...

Oh, and thehabitatdoctor, every "II" should be followed by "Electric Boogaloo"!

Okay, now you're not allowed to leave.

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