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F and T swing common?

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Lately I have been noticing a swing in my personality. In Social situations in every day thought and life and ineracting with others I seem to fit the ENFP personality perfectly however when I step in to work when in a serious confrontation when competing and my overall view on the world and society fits the ENTP.

Weather an introvert or extrovert does anyone else experience this swing back and forth between F and T. Is it common?
 

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Lately I have been noticing a swing in my personality. In Social situations in every day thought and life and ineracting with others I seem to fit the ENFP personality perfectly however when I step in to work when in a serious confrontation when competing and my overall view on the world and society fits the ENTP.

Weather an introvert or extrovert does anyone else experience this swing back and forth between F and T. Is it common?
I don't think it's common for a personality type to swing, but your role identification certainly can. I'm assuming you're a man. I think extroverted men with F-type personalities are likely to develop skills in appearing more "T". If you are an ENFP, for example, you'd have the auxiliary Fi, (which Fi users sometimes mistake for a source of logic) and the tertiary Te, which, if given a sufficient work-out, allows you to be organized and efficient when you need to be. This would allow you to be more T-like for a few hours a day, in order to get your work done, and present a good, professional image.
 

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It's difficult to understand specifically what you mean by "fitting the ENFP personality perfectly."

It's pretty basic type quirks that the ENTP uses tert Fe, for example, to connect with people in person. It's what can make them good at selling things (ideas, objects, plans, etc.) and can be very attractive to the people who interact with them. (The male ones I've known IRL can be huge flirts, for example.) IOW, they can seem more F than they actually are underneath. But they're not values-driven, they actually take the detached position.

So you would have to provide more detail of what exactly you are experience for us to properly evaluate it.
 

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I'm still a noob to MBTI so can't help much, but I have wondered about 'swings' from T-F.
I'm most certainly an INTP, however depending on my mood, I do also fit into INFP.

I am logical, but more I also follow my gut a lot and disregard logic for the fun of it; , I do wonder if that equates to following one's 'feelings', or drawing on intuition?

I think I feel a lot. Or is that a paradox? Lol
 

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This sounds like inferior acting out. It comes and goes in spurts for all the types. INTP Si may manifest as pangs of nostalgia. When Fe is let loose, it can manifest as a longing to "help" others among other things.

Both ENTP and ENFP have the same Si inferior, which can manifest through withdrawal, depression, focus on the body, obsessiveness, and basically being anal/perfectionistic.

T and F have nothing to do with emotions btw.
 

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I'm still a noob to MBTI so can't help much, but I have wondered about 'swings' from T-F.
I'm most certainly an INTP, however depending on my mood, I do also fit into INFP.

I am logical, but more I also follow my gut a lot and disregard logic for the fun of it; , I do wonder if that equates to following one's 'feelings', or drawing on intuition?

I think I feel a lot. Or is that a paradox? Lol

Emotions belong to any type. They just process and prioritize them differently. It's just that natural T detachment (used to process data) tends to bleed emotion away from the decision making because of the detachment. But it can still exist on some levels and T's are very capable of having emotional responses to things. Meanwhile, Fi can be more personal-valuing (versus Fe, which tends to rely on the social/group mores) and as you've noted, it often comes in the shape of a "gut instinct" so that one Fi person might not share the same values as another. In any case, "personal" and "instinctive" tends to tie into emotions easily IMO. That's probably why the sloppy equating of emotions = F occurred, but it's not really accurate.

Does any of it really matter? I think we overemphasize type too much. "Know yourself" is the rule, and MBTI is merely a tool, not the ultimate box. At some point I really stopped caring what "type" I was and saw chasing after a definitive answer to be counterproductive to just being myself.
 

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Thanks, that helped.

Why is it when I look up an MBTI type, INTP for example, there are only descriptions for four functions? And not eight like on Socionics? Am I over looking sosmething obvious?
 

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Both ENTP and ENFP have the same Si inferior, which can manifest through withdrawal, depression, focus on the body, obsessiveness, and basically being anal/perfectionistic.

T and F have nothing to do with emotions btw.

From my personal experience inferior Si is more about being deeply worried about not having anything on the horizon to fight for, no new projects and experiences, like stepping into the swamp and getting sucked by quicksands, if Si doms are about recollecting facts to resist the thunderstorm of the future, Ne doms need to be sucked in by it and destroy the bunker Si dom have built. If future doesn't happen our passion would be reduced to a concrete metal structure, caged spirit, passiveness, our Si coffin, the boredom that present is.
Imagine you are going to travel, you missed the airplane because your mind was already there, in a passive way not awake yet, like chutulu, waiting sleeping, your body was a machine finishing the procedures required to complete the transition to the new stage. But once it turned up, it realized it had failed in an important task (Inferior Si)
So auxiliary Fi activates tertiary Te and this starts making economic charts, calculating costs, hours, human beings into trampolines, material conveyors, and then... is it worth all the effort? the ultimate question before Ne reactivates. Damn yes.
But as soon as future begins to happen you are already worrying about the next challenge.
In conclusion, Si is negative about future, Ne is possitive.
 

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From my personal experience inferior Si is more about being deeply worried about not having anything on the horizon to fight for, no new projects and experiences, like stepping into the swamp and getting sucked by quicksands, if Si doms are about recollecting facts to resist the thunderstorm of the future, Ne doms need to be sucked in by it and destroy the bunker Si dom have built. If future doesn't happen our passion would be reduced to a concrete metal structure, caged spirit, passiveness, our Si coffin, the boredom that present is.
Imagine you are going to travel, you missed the airplane because your mind was already there, in a passive way not awake yet, like chutulu, waiting sleeping, your body was a machine finishing the procedures required to complete the transition to the new stage. But once it turned up, it realized it had failed in an important task (Inferior Si)
So auxiliary Fi activates tertiary Te and this starts making economic charts, calculating costs, hours, human beings into trampolines, material conveyors, and then... is it worth all the effort? the ultimate question before Ne reactivates. Damn yes.
But as soon as future begins to happen you are already worrying about the next challenge.
In conclusion, Si is negative about future, Ne is possitive.

It's one interpretation. Considering you are INTJ, that sounds an awful lot like inferior Se, not Si.

The manifestation of inferior Si is different from that of dom Si.

As for the last part, maybe in general this is true between an Ne dom and an Si dom like ENTP vs. ISTJ/ISFJ, but within the same individual this doesn't strike me as being accurate. From what I've read it's more like a tug-of-war between openness to new possibilities and also wanting to preserve the past at the same time. Big conflict there.
 

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im not an intj lol, im more likely an enfp, i'm just fooling around, but yeah i actually thought of that before, i think my post is more about N/S overall
 

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im not an intj lol, im more likely an enfp, i'm just fooling around, but yeah i actually thought of that before, i think my post is more about N/S overall

Ah. I see. Why don't you write ENFP on your profile? I don't get why people do that.
 

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