Hyperconsciousness / Revelation / Deep fear / Disturbance

[EyeSeeCold]

Have you ever had that feeling of a disturbing ghostly presence in the room? Like something was about to happen? What about religious scripture or aliens, does the thought of prophecies & otherworldly beings truly existing make you uneasy? Have you experienced sleep paralysis? What is the source of these feelings and why do they occur?


Sleep paralysis has been brought up before, but I think that's only one of the ways these associated feelings manifest. Personally I get the feeling when discussing esoteric subjects such as theosophical Christianity or aliens, I consider it "hyper-consciousness", where your mind is aware of reality as it always has been contrasted with the personal anxiety of the paradigm shift that would happen if any such paranormal, spiritual, or esoteric stuff was real; my eyes also start to water when I discuss these topics with people.

 

[The Void]

Some hours ago, I got bored a downed my head and my eyes got pressed, and something in me made me wanted to focus, and silence the mind, and as I got my head up, I saw small white balls moving all around. Sparkling particles small but not too small, may be about firefly size,
but white lights, all around, I was creeped up, and my mother came to distract me at the same time, thats why I should live alone. And then I lost my vision, and stop pecieving all that after 2-3 seconds. Stuffs happens. Because of woerd feelings and anxiety about this esoteric stuffs, I spend time distracting in games, but I could'nt leave it, and I did stuff, saw stuff, now I am used to it.
Though I never had too dastric experiences (like seeing ghosts and stuff).

I don't understand much about them, and most of the knowledge about these stuff I find to be hollowish, so I don't think much about them anymore.

But still stuffs happen, like now a days something feels like moving in my spine, and if I focus on it, it brings intense exotic like feelings.

WHatever.

I guess the anxiety arises from the sense of unknown. The mind fears the unknown. But may be in the end unkown is just Void. Who knows?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

You really don't even have to believe in ghosts, aliens, religion etc I know that stuff is flimsy, but it's just this irrational state that you can get it when you discuss those kinds of topics. I would agree with fear of the unknown, I just don't want to focus too much on fear since personally it's never been the "emotionally scared" type of fear for me but something more psychological and spiritual.

That feeling in the spine sucks though if you mean what I think you mean(not the shivers).

 

[Base groove]

Who hasn't sprinted up a flight of stairs in fear when you consciously know it's silly because you're alone?

 

[Jennywocky]

Who hasn't sprinted up a flight of stairs in fear when you consciously know it's silly because you're alone?

I used to have to walk the dog when I was young, along the cemetary next to our house, in the dark, to the back field.

Sometimes I felt totally at one with the night, no fear. other times (no distinct reasoning why), I would feel very anxious and run pell-mell back to the house with the dog racing with me.

Everyone gets these kinds of feelings. I haven't determined whether they're just a remnant of some physiological + psychology state that we try to attribute meaning to as conscious organisms or whether we're actually tapping into something else. There seems to be no rhyme or reason, and our state of mind at the time can contribute to what we experience.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

I have had these moments, like sleep paralysis or the feeling of being followed or shrouded by darkness.

I focus on my sense of "rightness" to overcome it. I have an inner explosion of anger and hate towards anything that would try to supress me and in a split second I become even more calm than I was, certain that nothing will happen and if something was to happen I will challenge it.

Also I have had the thing with watering eyes since I was a kid. Some of my friends pointed it out to me. I learned how to control it, but I don't escape the emotions that are associated, I embrace any emotion, because I rarely have the chance to feel something that wasn't induced by my conscious need for such emotion.

 

[Base groove]

our state of mind at the time can contribute to what we experience.

No it's probably paranormal.

 

[TimeAsylums]

mania

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

I experienced that sort of thing a lot more when I was younger, say... birth through 13 or so. Now it's much less frequent but much stronger when it happens (stronger as in I swear to fucking god I have a statue that's possessed).

Why is trypophobia so widespread?

 

[Absurdity]

Have you ever had that feeling of a disturbing ghostly presence in the room?

Only when I visit family in Maine, because Maine is creepy as shit.

 

[Cherry Cola]

I thought Maine was this cool place were it's easy to score some nice drugs and people are chill

 

[Absurdity]

I thought Maine was this cool place were it's easy to score some nice drugs and people are chill

Dude... Chad is from Maine.

 

[Hawkeye]

I had a strange static interference pattern come through on my headphones once. It was directional and panned from left to right a few times; however, it also depended on where I positioned my head. If I turned 90 degrees, the effect practically disappeared.

The following day I found out the that my neighbour had been robbed. They must have had some kind of electrical equipment on them.

 

[Base groove]

When I stare into a compound reflection I eventually see myself violently attacking myself.

[Edit]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrophobia

 

[EyeSeeCold]

When I stare into a compound reflection I eventually see myself violently attacking myself.

[Edit]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrophobia

With emphasis on your reflection, or just mirrors? I would agree that being aware of your reflection is an example hyper-consciousness, possibly related to the uncanny valley.

Why is trypophobia so widespread?

That's a whole different kind of fear, those lotus pod photoshops are viscerally repulsive...

I used to have to walk the dog when I was young, along the cemetary next to our house, in the dark, to the back field.

Sometimes I felt totally at one with the night, no fear. other times (no distinct reasoning why), I would feel very anxious and run pell-mell back to the house with the dog racing with me.

Everyone gets these kinds of feelings. I haven't determined whether they're just a remnant of some physiological + psychology state that we try to attribute meaning to as conscious organisms or whether we're actually tapping into something else. There seems to be no rhyme or reason, and our state of mind at the time can contribute to what we experience.

From sleep paralysis it's suggested that your body anticipates the evolutionary predator/intruder upon awakening, based on environmental disturbances; so the fear of a ghost or presence etc wouldn't be totally irrational, even if untrue.



You have to watch the movie from the start to be in the mood, but this film(Signs) once evoked the feeling for me(hyperconsciosness + watery eyes).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RGtC2S22Z0

Oh and also Mulholland Dr.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmu71H_6UAA

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

That's a whole different kind of fear, those lotus pod photoshops are viscerally repulsive...

I think it's because of the same reason though; a product of genetic memory.

Spoiler

Thought this spoiler was going to be a lotus pod photoshop, didn't you?

 

[Base groove]

Honestly now that I think about it I used to get spooked a lot. Not so much now, although it does still happen.

Not really sure if it's related to the phenomenon you're trying to identify overall, but, nevertheless, it's really hard to stay rational when your mind starts to look for reasons to be scared of nothing.

Regarding the mirror thing, it's like if you look at a framed picture on the wall with another picture behind it (or mirror or whatever) so it produces "compound" reflections (a term I apparently made up) ... and it's sort of like, if I look any deeper than what is readily apparent it becomes uncanny, as mentioned. Not an exact example of the 'uncanny valley' (which requires objective stimulus of a certain specific variety) but similar subjective experience perhaps.

It probably is mild spectrophobia, as posted above, which isn't necessarily the fear of mirrors or your own reflection ... but a strange amalgamation of both combined with a potent imagination and a fear of the 'uncanny' effects that one supposes are sort of ... just around the corner. It's like the "bloody mary" game.

 

[The Void]

I guess, in the end it is fear of the void within, the void, in knowledge, the gap,
which makes us compel to make all sorts of stories.
We are scared of the 'new' that we don't know anything about.
Our perspectives are limited, and we feel the void of knowledge about the beyond.
We cling to stories, even while learning science, we try to use science to fill the gaps which are not exactly supposed to be filled by the current knowledge.
Then we run behind spiritual theories, and religions, to fill it, we grow a sense of certainty and knowledge, cling to it tight, so that we can escape it.
But the void is inescapable. It is always there.
If you start living in somekind of haunted house (just a hypothetical scenatio) and stay in in, face all the hauntings (which may injure you, but not powerful enough to kill you)...and then you get used to it, fear will reduce...the ones with stronger mind, can even manipuate the mind, to laugh at it, and get accustomed completely.
But the first time facing the supernatural (or just unexplored natual) can spook ya becoz it is 'new'.
I am not saying there is supernatural, just an example.
Since the uncertainty, the darkness, the void haunts us, we take hold of stories.

Story type 1: That it is all BS, irrational, science, chemicals, mental disorders to classify the supernatural, and it can be no other thing.

Story type 2: It is God, ghost, possession, all true.

Both stories, the truth is we don't know shit. Our experience is too limited.

The stories of the unknown, reminds our subconscious, about the void, about the lack, that we don't know....and the fear of the unknown....brings that spooky feeling.

FAce the void. Kill the Void with more Void.