Law of Accelarating Returns as evidence of evolution

[ToddRyler]

I have had really annoying debates on the validity of evolution with creationists, and the one point where they seem to believe they have looked past science into the work of a god is the lack of our understanding of a mechanism for there to be an increase in the amount of genetic material from uni- to multi-cellular beings.
I have recently come across the LOAR, which mainly applies to Information Technology by the looks of it. My question is, can it be applied more generally, to information itself? And, can this be used as a valid argument against creationism?
All views are welcome.

(PS: Also, what do you think about Ray's predictions?)

 

[Intolerable]

This may or may not help:

I've come to my own conclusions on the whys and hows of Evolution and my belief as of this time is that Nature does nothing out of wanting to. Rather everything is driven by force. If a thing exists it must exist because of some other condition. Example a fire burns because the conditions become impossible for it not to. When we 'create' the fire what we're really doing is forcing the environment to catch fire.

I believe Evolution functions in the same way. This can even be observed on a particle level where given the right forced conditions particles will take up new relationships making something entirely new. Not because they want to but larger forces have forced them to.

In this way sentient organisms (humans, other animals) would come into being immediately filling the void that necessitated their arrival. Because the void existed prior to their arrival they're clueless to it. They can only then imagine their purpose.

In truth, nature even human nature is driven by larger forces. Cosmological in nature. We're not exactly puppets on a string but cogs in a very wild machine.

 

[Black Rose]

Cells have metabolisms so they need to eat.
Variation in proteins and enzymes will help metabolism.
Also viruses are a threat so junk dna absorb errors made by them.
Junk dna can become new proteins and new enzymes that help cells eat food.
Evolution is about those organisms that were able to eat and survive.
Metabolism it is all about metabolism.

 

[ToddRyler]

This may or may not help:

I've come to my own conclusions on the whys and hows of Evolution and my belief as of this time is that Nature does nothing out of wanting to. Rather everything is driven by force. If a thing exists it must exist because of some other condition. Example a fire burns because the conditions become impossible for it not to. When we 'create' the fire what we're really doing is forcing the environment to catch fire.

I believe Evolution functions in the same way. This can even be observed on a particle level where given the right forced conditions particles will take up new relationships making something entirely new. Not because they want to but larger forces have forced them to.

In this way sentient organisms (humans, other animals) would come into being immediately filling the void that necessitated their arrival. Because the void existed prior to their arrival they're clueless to it. They can only then imagine their purpose.

In truth, nature even human nature is driven by larger forces. Cosmological in nature. We're not exactly puppets on a string but cogs in a very wild machine.

That's one way of saying everything follows laws, and can directly be derived from them. I totally agree.
But your comment about human nature sounds a lot like astrology. I do not agree with that. It is conceivable to think that things far away can in fact have a causal relationship to observable phenomena, but i don't see why there needs to be a "want" in any case. Higher laws are derived from lower laws, and are entirely dependent on them. Everything can arise spontaneously from laws and set initial conditions, just like the game of life.
I couldn't understand your stand on this matter...are you saying that god becomes a necessity for creation? Or that laws themselves give rise to everything? I'm confused..

 

[ToddRyler]

Cells have metabolisms so they need to eat.
Variation in proteins and enzymes will help metabolism.
Also viruses are a threat so junk dna absorb errors made by them.
Junk dna can become new proteins and new enzymes that help cells eat food.
Evolution is about those organisms that were able to eat and survive.
Metabolism it is all about metabolism.

I understand this...I'm interested in knowing how you think LOAR would apply here.

 

[ToddRyler]

I'm not sure if LOAR has caught up with a majority of the people...here, i'm posting a link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zihTWh5i2C4

 

[Architect]

Yes LOAR is a direct result of evolution, as we take it from the physical realm into our own hands. Not that it will help you with arguing the creationists; by definition people who choose willful ignorance will not be swayed by reason and evidence.

 

[ToddRyler]

...Not that it will help you with arguing the creationists; by definition people who choose willful ignorance will not be swayed by reason and evidence.

I guess this pretty much says it..!
Thanks