Looking for reliable IQ test.

[QuickTwist]

Basically there are a ton of IQ tests online and almost all of them are crap. What is a reliable way to find out my IQ by means of a formal test (preferably an official one or at least acknowledged by the professional psychology community). I don't mind going somewhere or shelling out some coin to take the test.

Thanks for your feedback.

 

[snafupants]

What is a reliable way to find out my IQ by means of a formal test (preferably an official one or at least acknowledged by the professional psychology community).

Xavier Jouve's and Ron Hoeflin's tests are pretty well-normed.

http://www.cerebrals.org/wp/tests/

http://www.cogn-iq.org/tests/jcces

http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/

 

[Back2Basics]

How come you have an intrest in IQ?

Seems self-defeating and material, also there are many tests proving that one can actually study for the exam and improve his score. In addition to this, the IQ has a single aim, but an individual may posses skills that prove to be greater than just "IQ." So what does it really prove?

 

[snafupants]

How come you have an intrest in IQ?

Seems self-defeating and material, also there are many tests proving that one can actually study for the exam and improve his score. In addition to this, the IQ has a single aim, but an individual may posses skills that prove to be greater than just "IQ." So what does it really prove?

I'm assuming those questions are intended for QuickTwist but those are perfectly valid questions for anyone. There's actually evidence, which Arthur Jensen forwards, that past a certain point (i.e., between the third and fourth positive standard deviation and beyond), something other than g (e.g., specific skills) is being tapped. But yeah, overall just consider how knowledge or quantification of intelligence will impact your self-image or whatnot. Some folks question the construct validity of intelligence as measured by these tests, which is fine. IQ, according to most measures, is pretty well-established in terms of criterion validity and reliability though.

 

[Coolydudey]

And from here, any of http://www.cerebrals.org/wp/tests/ but mainly the one snafu mentioned (jcces), the jcti, and the tlap-r.

If anything, just do snafu's one.

Also, This (iq>130): http://www.etienne.se/cfnse/
All free, and high quality.

 

[QuickTwist]

Thank you Snafu, those links are very helpful.

@Back2Basics, I have an interest in my IQ because of curiosity. It is uncommon to find true proof of anything in this world. IQ tests, to me, are simply a measurement of ones grasp of reality.

So far I have taken this test: http://www.cogn-iq.org/tests/jcti
I took the test once and my Reasoning Index is 120
It has a mean of 100 and 15 points per standard deviation. This is the Reasoning Index.
An Index of 90-109 is average. A very supirior Index is 130 and 144 is highly gifted in non-verbal figurtive reasoning.

Overall its pretty much what I expected my IQ to be (anywhere between the 110~125); its not great, but it isn't bad for someone with just a high school deploma either. It was also a pretty fun test, I recomend it. Did I mention its free, you can take it online right away and you get your results almost instatly? I will probably take a couple more too, you know, just to be sure

 

[Back2Basics]

I would probably get less than 90 on the test

 

[snafupants]

I would probably get less than 90 on the test

Haha I've seen Wu-Tang twice.

 

[QuickTwist]

I must be missing something, What does Wu-Tang Clan have to do with this thread? They have cool music but I just don't see the connection. Could someone explain?

@Back2Basics, the test is based on pattern recognition not head knowledge so you might do better than you are saying you will get. I don't think there is a time llimit so why don't you take it and we can compare. If anyone else wants to share what their scor was I would like to see what a is normal for INTPs.

 

[Coolydudey]

I must be missing something, What does Wu-Tang Clan have to do with this thread? They have cool music but I just don't see the connection. Could someone explain?

@Back2Basics, the test is based on pattern recognition not head knowledge so you might do better than you are saying you will get. I don't think there is a time llimit so why don't you take it and we can compare. If anyone else wants to share what their scor was I would like to see what a is normal for INTPs.

There was a huge poll on the forum with an average of 120-130... Look for it (search is failing me for some reason)

 

[snafupants]

I must be missing something, What does Wu-Tang Clan have to do with this thread? They have cool music but I just don't see the connection. Could someone explain?

@Back2Basics, the test is based on pattern recognition not head knowledge so you might do better than you are saying you will get. I don't think there is a time llimit so why don't you take it and we can compare. If anyone else wants to share what their scor was I would like to see what a is normal for INTPs.

Google image "Wu-Tang Clan Chess" and reexamine the thread.

Spoiler

Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothin' to fuck wit'.

 

[Synthetix]

I've taken 3 online, two paid for. No biggy, wasn't a ridiculous amount. My three scores had a range of ten points. I'm not sure how accurate they were though.

 

[Back2Basics]

I must be missing something, What does Wu-Tang Clan have to do with this thread? They have cool music but I just don't see the connection. Could someone explain?

@Back2Basics, the test is based on pattern recognition not head knowledge so you might do better than you are saying you will get. I don't think there is a time llimit so why don't you take it and we can compare. If anyone else wants to share what their scor was I would like to see what a is normal for INTPs.

If it is based upon pattern recognition, does that mean that ENTP's would do better than INTP's?

If yes, does that mean some personalities generally score higher than other personality types?

 

[snafupants]

If it is based upon pattern recognition, does that mean that ENTP's would do better than INTP's?

I would say nope because Ne isn't perfectly commensurate with fluid intelligence or general aptitude. So, clearly, there are retarded ENTPs out there (yeah, literally retarded) as well as brilliant ESFJs (hard to believe).

 

[Coolydudey]

If it is based upon pattern recognition, does that mean that ENTP's would do better than INTP's?

If yes, does that mean some personalities generally score higher than other personality types?

Yes, some types tend to way out score others. In one study, it was of found that INTJs are 37% of the high IQ population they tested, while INTPs 20% (the respective amounts in all society are about 1-5% each). It's always a spectrum though... (It wasn't the most reliable study but the numbers are still significant...)

 

[QuickTwist]

If it is based upon pattern recognition, does that mean that ENTP's would do better than INTP's?

To answer your question directly, I think you made a poor assessment of the situation or are not as well informed about the MBTI. The INTP to ENTP comparison is not a good one for a couple of reasons that I don't feel like explaining except to say they are both NTs and in the grand scheme of things, their results will probably not have as much varience between the two as you would think. One could make the case that it would be pretty much even steven because Ne might be better at seeing possibilities Than Ti while Si is better at observing details. Basically its on an individual basis.

If yes, does that mean some personalities generally score higher than other personality types?

I would say there is definitely truth to the statement that some personality types are more logical thinkers (or smarter in this case) than others, although the INFJs seem pretty bright for not being NTs.

 

[QuickTwist]

I retook the same test for the second time. The results I got said there is a 95% chance that my Reasoning index is between 116 and 126. Mostly the same results I've gotten in the past.

 

[Brontosaurie]

ok.

 

[Harmony]

Also, This (iq>130): http://www.etienne.se/cfnse/
All free, and high quality.

This one was pretty challenging. I scored a 10/10 which I was really surprised about considering the statistics they have. (It might be a bit off, because the values are of previous official versions, not the self assesment.) Took me some time though and I worked really hard on it. My two mistakes were the Lost Lines 2 and 4, my best guesses all don't seem to be correct. Some of the others took me a lot of time, but I always got to a logical result.

How much does time play into IQ? This test was clearly not meant to focus on efficiency but rather on the absolute maximum you can get out of yourself. What is the best thing you can do to get your "real" IQ?

 

[UfarkTheRipe]

Basically there are a ton of IQ tests online and almost all of them are crap. What is a reliable way to find out my IQ by means of a formal test (preferably an official one or at least acknowledged by the professional psychology community). I don't mind going somewhere or shelling out some coin to take the test.

Thanks for your feedback.

What are you going to do with the number when you get it?

 

[Valentas]

Are you going to put a poster on the wall with your IQ score?

 

[Cherry Cola]

How come you have an intrest in IQ?

Seems self-defeating and material, also there are many tests proving that one can actually study for the exam and improve his score. In addition to this, the IQ has a single aim, but an individual may posses skills that prove to be greater than just "IQ." So what does it really prove?

If you do a test like the WAIS one then there are several different sections which test different mental capabilities. Can be useful getting a clearer picture of your weaknesses and strenghts.

For example I performed in the 98-99th percentile on most things, but my working memory was only average, I had suspected this but it was nice getting it confirmed anyway, suppose it has to do with my ADD.

 

[viche]

Basically there are a ton of IQ tests online and almost all of them are crap. What is a reliable way to find out my IQ by means of a formal test (preferably an official one or at least acknowledged by the professional psychology community). I don't mind going somewhere or shelling out some coin to take the test.

Thanks for your feedback.

Your local book store might have a few of the more "official" IQ tests around. I've found an IQ test from MENSA on shelves of Barnes&Nobles which at first glance looked much more challenging than what they offer you online (oh and bring a watch with you, it requires you to time yourself).

 

[QuickTwist]

If you really want to know, yes I'm going to put my IQ on the wall... wait what? Are you trolling or are just being a douche? If I was going to put it on my wall it wouldn't be all that different then putting a degree on the wall.

Maybe I am just wondering if there is a relationship between intellectual work throughout your lifetime and IQ scores, I can't tell.

 

[UfarkTheRipe]

I used to be concerned about my IQ when I needed validation. So I thought.

I'm not trolling; I really wanted to see what you would say. Many high IQ folks are true tools not worth a kick in the nuts- myself included(about 10 years ago) Worthless arrogant peckerwoods- have you discovered that you are one? And after that question is answered, I have another.

 

[QuickTwist]

I used to be concerned about my IQ when I needed validation. So I thought.

I'm not trolling; I really wanted to see what you would say. Many high IQ folks are true tools not worth a kick in the nuts- myself included(about 10 years ago) Worthless arrogant peckerwoods- have you discovered that you are one? And after that question is answered, I have another.

I guess I am just a bit curious how I measure up to the rest of the world so I guess I still need validation if that is what that is.

I guess I wasn't really calling anyone a troll in particular; I just didn't like the responses that I was getting. It was more like yelling at air or cursing god.

I guess I don't really understand the question "have you discovered that you are one?" If you mean that I feel like I am one years old and that there is a great big world to discover, then yes I suppose I have those thoughts from time to time. If you mean do I feel like I am one, a single entity, I would say my body and mind function as a whole so yes. The other possibility I care to talk about if the question means do I feel like one; in other words, do I feel like I am small, singled out or without a voice, I would say I try not to think about those kinds of thoughts very much. The other option I see is if I feel one with the universe and I'm not really sure what I think about that. I give this less thought then most things I think about and it really doesn't guide me into any kind of action I wouldn't normally take. Still it is there and I'm not sure what to do with it.

Anyways thoughts? Comments? And your question of course.

 

[UfarkTheRipe]

Heh, that could have been written, "Have you discovered that you are a worthless arrogant peckerwood," but I can see from your response that you are not. I will assume that if you are looking for tests to prove yourself of then you suspect a higher IQ because you find yourself understanding more than those around you. Sadly pride is always insecurity and it's far more laudable to have confidence over pride- which leads into my question.

What are you going to DO with your higher intelligence what ever the number may be? Also don't forget there are like 7 different types of IQ so identifying yours will help answer that question.

 

[QuickTwist]

To tell you the truth I'm not as concerned about my IQ as you might think. I keep getting these Mensa emails (which I never open) and I have no desire to get my IQ scored by them. What I mean to say is that I am satisfied with what I have found out about my IQ and have determined that I am a little above average. Nothing is stopping me from accomplishing my goals, I may just have to work harder than someone who has a higher IQ. I have found that many things can be learned; you can even increase your reasoning ability with the know how to increase it and with practice.

 

[UfarkTheRipe]

But you were concerned enough to make a thread about it, but the questions remains- what are you gonna do with it?

 

[defghi]

I used to be concerned about my IQ when I needed validation. So I thought.

I'm not trolling; I really wanted to see what you would say. Many high IQ folks are true tools not worth a kick in the nuts- myself included(about 10 years ago) Worthless arrogant peckerwoods- have you discovered that you are one? And after that question is answered, I have another.

Yea, anyone who takes an IQ test needs validation. I'm glad you're above such petty things now. And I must offer my congratulations on no longer being an arrogant douche

 

[UfarkTheRipe]

Don't get all jealous of my massive humility.

 

[QuickTwist]

But you were concerned enough to make a thread about it, but the questions remains- what are you gonna do with it?

Why do you ask?

 

[UfarkTheRipe]

Really just curiosity and if you don't know, then I am goading you to use your powers for something. Smart folk do cool stuff.

 

[QuickTwist]

Well I knew the first time you asked me and I thought my answer was sufficient but apparently you are not as shallow as I originally thought.

I don't believe the way you phased the question that I am able to give an accurate answer because you make it seem like you think that because I discover I have a high IQ by some test that this will alter what goals and aspirations I have and what I will accomplish. To me, the knowledge that I have a high IQ is not the motivating factor that drives me to accomplish whatever it is that I set goals for. Instead, it only indicates that I will have a higher chance of succeeding intellectually in my pursuits, not necessarily in confidence but in ability to solve problems and reason through things. As I have said before, and I think you will concur, IQ is only a partial cause to ones success in the goals they set forth for themselves and the rest is determined by dedication to ones goals for them to be successful.

I suspect this answer is still not one that would satisfy you and that you might persist for longer then I care to elude the question so I will give you an answer that I believe to both have merit in terms of what goals I have set forth and have the ability to do granted I have a high enough IQ to do so.

I would like to develop a new kind of technology in the electronics field or at the very least improve upon one that already exists. I want to invent things.

 

[UfarkTheRipe]

A satisfactory response.

My first post in your thread was born from my own experience. I took a bunch of tests as I suspected that I was the smartest person alive. I got a reasonable high score and bragged about it many years while accomplishing nothing.

So I got my number and I too was interested in invention, but I talked more about what I could do then actually accomplishing something. It makes you bitter when you know you can change the world but are working jobs everyone else can do.

Where I am now, I have abandoned invention(my interest with in robotics and constant velocity transmissions) in favor of just straight programming as patents cost >$7000 to get and the ROI is contingent upon your marketing skills. Funding is my only barrier as I don't like answering to someone else or lowering myself to mundane for very long.

My point of all of this discourse is this:

Make sure you are accomplishing something towards your goals, everyday.

 

[QuickTwist]

I'm in school for electronics. I have discovered that most of my life I have been under challenged. about a year and 3 months ago I was on a forum and couldn't help but read about people who were either upgrading a part of their computer or getting a new one and custom building it. I was fascinated. You may ask why I was just coming to the realization that people build their own computers and that I love technology. The answer lies in two answers: 1) I have lived a mostly secluded life and I enjoyed my sad laziness. 2) In my seclusion, I always gave some mysticism to knowledge and thought only people who were smarter than myself could "get it." One year later I find myself in school and its not until my 2nd month that there may be a future for me in school. In my first month of school I realized I can do it intellectually. My first week into my second quarter I realized that this stuff is really fun.

Anyways, do I "know" that I will develop or improve upon an old technology in the electronics field, no but that is still my dream. Working for Intel and helping to develop microprocessors is a close second.

 

[UfarkTheRipe]

Powerful you will be, if learn how to learn you do! - YodaTheRipe

 

[Zero989]

JCTI is probably the best.

 

[John_Mann]

It's impossible to make a single test ONLINE based on Gardner's multiple intelligences.

 

[Zero989]

It's impossible to make a single test ONLINE based on Gardner's multiple intelligences.

Maybe because general intelligence theory is a better theory? All my scores correlate positively, as expected. Verbal and spatial.

 

[Hawkeye]

Why waste time taking IQ tests in order to grade your intelligence on a standardised model? To me these tests are nothing more than "dick swinging" exercises.

So what if a person has an IQ of 140, or 200... It means jack shit in reality.

 

[QuickTwist]

Ahhh... entertainment.

 

[defghi]

Why waste time taking IQ tests in order to grade your intelligence on a standardised model? To me these tests are nothing more than "dick swinging" exercises.

So what if a person has an IQ of 140, or 200... It means jack shit in reality.

You don't plug yourself into the Matrix and receive a grade- you actually challenge the limits of your ability and then get graded on that. Telling everyone your scores may be a dick swinging exercise, but taking the test itself is a brain exercise.

Ask why anyone would brag about their IQ score, sure. Ask why they would take the test in the first place... what? Clearly all the haters are low IQ peasants who can't understand this.

 

[Hawkeye]

You don't plug yourself into the Matrix and receive a grade- you actually challenge the limits of your ability and then get graded on that. Telling everyone your scores may be a dick swinging exercise, but taking the test itself is a brain exercise.

Ask why anyone would brag about their IQ score, sure. Ask why they would take the test in the first place... what? Clearly all the haters are low IQ peasants who can't understand this.

I'll ignore the trolling irony.

The primary purpose of an IQ test is to grade yourself against the norm; dick swinging is inevitable.

I don't hate IQ tests, I just find them pointless. They are no more challenging than any other puzzles you can exercise your brain with. The only difference is that IQ tests are standardised so you can compare and boast.

You end up with people like Snafupants. *shudders*

 

[UfarkTheRipe]

I'm a low IQ peasant.

 

[defghi]

I'll ignore the trolling irony.

Thank you

The primary purpose of an IQ test is to grade yourself against the norm; dick swinging is inevitable.

I don't hate IQ tests, I just find them pointless. They are no more challenging than any other puzzles you can exercise your brain with. The only difference is that IQ tests are standardised so you can compare and boast.

You end up with people like Snafupants. *shudders*

I don't think brain exercises are pointless though. And I don't think rankings are pointless either, they can be used as a motivator to improve, boasting and dick swinging optional. I suppose it depends on whether you think the exercises in whatever specific test you took are "useful".

My purpose is always to learn; rankings are additional information

 

[TrumanB]

Looking for an old online iq test

I am hoping that someone could help me with this. Maybe 15 years ago I ran to a very interesting iq test. I remember that it had a picture of alien and questions were pretty hard and atypical for these kind of tests. Also, scale was lower and for example 70 was an average. Also the result with go with a thematic description. If you scored a very good result you would receive a message "you have alien iq" or smth like. I tried to find this test on the internet but without any success. If anyone could help me with this I would appreciate. The problems in this test were very interesting so I would like to test myself again.
I apologise for my poor English.

 

[Jungle]

Any IQ test that has binary 'correct' and 'incorrect' answers will most likely be testing Ni-Te or Te-Ni capabilities. It is like doing a Sudoku puzzle where somebody else has designed a system but they haven't told you the hidden logic of how their system works, and your task is to intuitively work out what the principles are and then follow them. Personally I find that quite tedious.

In contrast, Ti-Ne or Ne-Ti cannot be assessed in a standardised way because by definition these functions are about creating something independent and new. The way to assess these capabilities would be to give someone a problem that has no known solution, and then see how far they get with it. Impossible to test in a formal way.

 

[Jungle]

Re: Looking for an old online iq test

I am hoping that someone could help me with this. Maybe 15 years ago I ran to a very interesting iq test. I remember that it had a picture of alien and questions were pretty hard and atypical for these kind of tests. Also, scale was lower and for example 70 was an average. Also the result with go with a thematic description. If you scored a very good result you would receive a message "you have alien iq" or smth like. I tried to find this test on the internet but without any success. If anyone could help me with this I would appreciate. The problems in this test were very interesting so I would like to test myself again.
I apologise for my poor English.

Well to be fair this does sound like it is a bit different to the others. Post the link if you find it!

 

[redbaron]

Have an argument with me and I'll tell you your IQ.