Ti vs Ni?

[Nihilmatic]

Differentiating between the introverted and extroverted of a function seems to be the best way to reduce confusion within the cognitive functions. But instead of Ti vs Te, how would you differentiate Ti and Ni, both seem extremely detached while one is the foundation of logic while the other is the foundation of subconscious creativity how can you tell one from the other in real life. Ti user behavior vs Ni user behavior. These two functions (in my opinion) are quote similar on a logical basis and how people deduct conclusions, so how would you see these in a extremely well developed Ti user vs an extremely well developed Ni user?

 

[Black Rose]

Ti will structure its constructs by the relation is has to perception Pe. Se and Ti are systems where the parts are deconstructed then combined. Ne and Ti are systems where abstractions are done the same but where abstraction is a principle as part not objects.

Ni is a holistic awareness of the representation inside the subject. This means when combined with judgment (Je) the actions are pertinent to the qualities of rearrangement of those representations. Te and Ni seek out the best ways to construct totalistic representations or formulas derived from impressions of the causal relations seen. Fe and Ni will do the same but with people or more the flow of environmental conditions that impact them directly but both will be explicit formula or can be explained formally as objective.

The big difference between Ni and Ti is that well Ti reasoning is subjective or more informal, its end product is expressed through extroverted perception. Ni is a gathering of knowledge from extroverted judgment. So both are reflective but an Ni reflection merges ideas first then externalizes them well Ti sorts ideas with and internal formula for how to reason and then gathers perception to refine its constructs.

Ti alone trying to understand Ni will not evaluate Ni as it does Ne. Ne with Ti will surmount a relationship which Ni adds to Ne as Ne perceives the subject with Ni but that data the Ni user gives is a random assortment which new Ti formulas are developed to understand. The Ni subject is a component Ti-Ne looks at as being defined or micro accuracies. Ni subjects follow this pattern as collected data suggests and anomalies in situations they behave is counter the probability of past predictions.

Ni-Ti is a meta construct that can tell when a reasoning process has been made that the perception of it is redefined in light of the new references it has made. In other words Ti meta evaluations are perceived as having a relationship to the subject where Ni ideas abstracted as in the context of the subjects Ti formulas. Ti is applied to the perceptions as a summation of the perception as metadata which then becomes part of the perception.

 

[scorpiomover]

A poster on INTJf summed it very succinctly as:

Ni = idea > logic.

Ti = logic > idea.

Hope that helps.

 

[Grayman]

A poster on INTJf summed it very succinctly as:

Ni = idea > logic.

Ti = logic > idea.

Hope that helps.

Ni unvalidated idea > validated idea

Ti validated idea> unvalidated idea

Ne = Ideas to be explored
Ni = Idea to be accepted as true

 

[Hadoblado]

A Ni user arrives at their conclusion quickly from the vast undercurrent of knowledge and concepts being tapped at a subconscious level.

A Ti user arrives at a conclusion less quickly, but at a more conscious level -> Is able to articulate many arguments for or against any conclusion on the topic, demonstrating evidence of an extensive process of semantic refinement.

 

[Architect]

All the introverted functions go deep. Taking some subject and continually working it. Intuition goes deep on an idea, Thinking goes deep on a thought (like a theory).

Ni likes to focus on a single idea, bringing in support and continual development of it. Ne likes to aggregate many ideas in support of a theme. Ni is interested more in the personal idea. What is useful to me? For example, a Ne-Fe (INFJ) will focus on ideas that will affect their lives and those they know, such as a health or psychology idea.

Ti likes to whittle away at a thought process, going deep and throughly understanding it. Te likes to work more on a series of ideas, as in a process. Ti is also more personal, preferring ideas that work or make sense to the individual. For example, a Ti-Ne (INTP) will be in search of how to live more effectively.

 

[Nihilmatic]

How does Ti Ne creativity differ from Ni Te creativity?

 

[Grayman]

Ni is interested more in the personal idea. What is useful to me? For example, a Ne-Fe

Ni is selfish and manipulative? Hmmm...