BIG bang!

[Coolydudey60]

firstly, did you notice what I did in the title?
just out of interest,how many of you know how we think the big bang happened (some detail)?

 

[Lostwitheal]

In the beginning there was Nothing.

Nothing was a cool kinda guy, who enjoyed hanging out by himself and doing Nothing. Now before you go judging this poor dude, bear in mind that he was literally the only thing in existence, so doing himself was pretty much the only option for things to do.

Because there was only Nothing, and due to a funny little quirk of space-time which means Something is required for time to actually exist, Nothing just did himself for all of time. And for no time at all. And every amount of time inbetween. Honestly it's all a little confusing, and when Nothing tried thinking how long he'd been doing Nothing, and whether he was or wasn't sore because of it, he got bored thinking about it and divided by himself. Or 0, as we now know it.

Since Nothing was the only thing in existence at this point, the fact that he divided by himself, 0, could hardly be called his fault. Honestly if a guy decides he wants to divide by something for kicks, and the only thing he has is 0, can you really blame him? The fact that he did it at all was both incredibly impressive, and monstrously disastrous. In this catastrophic event, Something was created. And not *just* something, but a whole hell of a lot of Something.

Something, by the very act of existing, and by no fault of his own, then forced Nothing into non-existence. Nothing had had better days. Except that he hadn't really had better days, since before Something came into existence there were no days.

Nothing cared not about such things, though. All Nothing knew was that he no longer existed, and that he had an inexplicable desire for custard. Except, because he no longer existed, he didn't really know that he didn't exist.

Only the desire for custard remains.

 

[Coolydudey60]

In the beginning there was Nothing.

Nothing was a cool kinda guy, who enjoyed hanging out by himself and doing Nothing. Now before you go judging this poor dude, bear in mind that he was literally the only thing in existence, so doing himself was pretty much the only option for things to do.

Because there was only Nothing, and due to a funny little quirk of space-time which means Something is required for time to actually exist, Nothing just did himself for all of time. And for no time at all. And every amount of time inbetween. Honestly it's all a little confusing, and when Nothing tried thinking how long he'd been doing Nothing, and whether he was or wasn't sore because of it, he got bored thinking about it and divided by himself. Or 0, as we now know it.

Since Nothing was the only thing in existence at this point, the fact that he divided by himself, 0, could hardly be called his fault. Honestly if a guy decides he wants to divide by something for kicks, and the only thing he has is 0, can you really blame him? The fact that he did it at all was both incredibly impressive, and monstrously disastrous. In this catastrophic event, Something was created. And not *just* something, but a whole hell of a lot of Something.

Something, by the very act of existing, and by no fault of his own, then forced Nothing into non-existence. Nothing had had better days. Except that he hadn't really had better days, since before Something came into existence there were no days.

Nothing cared not about such things, though. All Nothing knew was that he no longer existed, and that he had an inexplicable desire for custard. Except, because he no longer existed, he didn't really know that he didn't exist.

Only the desire for custard remains.

not too bad... you're gonna need some quantum mechanics to give an accurate answer though

(also in BIG bang! (thread title) BIG is in capital letters, and bang in smll. the exclamation mark was by accident)

 

[mke2686]

In the beginning there was Nothing.

Nothing was a cool kinda guy, who enjoyed hanging out by himself and doing Nothing. Now before you go judging this poor dude, bear in mind that he was literally the only thing in existence, so doing himself was pretty much the only option for things to do.

Because there was only Nothing, and due to a funny little quirk of space-time which means Something is required for time to actually exist, Nothing just did himself for all of time. And for no time at all. And every amount of time inbetween. Honestly it's all a little confusing, and when Nothing tried thinking how long he'd been doing Nothing, and whether he was or wasn't sore because of it, he got bored thinking about it and divided by himself. Or 0, as we now know it.

Since Nothing was the only thing in existence at this point, the fact that he divided by himself, 0, could hardly be called his fault. Honestly if a guy decides he wants to divide by something for kicks, and the only thing he has is 0, can you really blame him? The fact that he did it at all was both incredibly impressive, and monstrously disastrous. In this catastrophic event, Something was created. And not *just* something, but a whole hell of a lot of Something.

Something, by the very act of existing, and by no fault of his own, then forced Nothing into non-existence. Nothing had had better days. Except that he hadn't really had better days, since before Something came into existence there were no days.

Nothing cared not about such things, though. All Nothing knew was that he no longer existed, and that he had an inexplicable desire for custard. Except, because he no longer existed, he didn't really know that he didn't exist.

Only the desire for custard remains.

i thoroughly enjoyed reading this

 

[Coolydudey60]

i thoroughly enjoyed reading this

me too, it was quite funny. I do genuinely love custard though.
but let's try to stay on topic

 

[Fukyo]

So, what is the point of this thread? Are you looking for information about the big bang (which you can easily google), or do you have an actual question, or point to make with this?

 

[Yet]

Spoiler

In the beginning there was Nothing.

Nothing was a cool kinda guy, who enjoyed hanging out by himself and doing Nothing. Now before you go judging this poor dude, bear in mind that he was literally the only thing in existence, so doing himself was pretty much the only option for things to do.

Because there was only Nothing, and due to a funny little quirk of space-time which means Something is required for time to actually exist, Nothing just did himself for all of time. And for no time at all. And every amount of time inbetween. Honestly it's all a little confusing, and when Nothing tried thinking how long he'd been doing Nothing, and whether he was or wasn't sore because of it, he got bored thinking about it and divided by himself. Or 0, as we now know it.

Since Nothing was the only thing in existence at this point, the fact that he divided by himself, 0, could hardly be called his fault. Honestly if a guy decides he wants to divide by something for kicks, and the only thing he has is 0, can you really blame him? The fact that he did it at all was both incredibly impressive, and monstrously disastrous. In this catastrophic event, Something was created. And not *just* something, but a whole hell of a lot of Something.

Something, by the very act of existing, and by no fault of his own, then forced Nothing into non-existence. Nothing had had better days. Except that he hadn't really had better days, since before Something came into existence there were no days.

Nothing cared not about such things, though. All Nothing knew was that he no longer existed, and that he had an inexplicable desire for custard. Except, because he no longer existed, he didn't really know that he didn't exist.

Only the desire for custard remains.

OP
how it happened -->
I think it might have something to do with instability of material ... I read a very interesting paper on that once. I can't find it now

 

[Coolydudey60]

No, I'm looking to see how many know about the subject and if so how accurately. If not, it can also trigger some learning (never boring for us) if your interested in the subject. Other than that, there wasn't much point.

 

[crippli]

Maybe anti-matter and matter got together somehow, I think that is the idea. Not sure I believe in baryogynesis. It's an idea that causes me headache.

Why or how would matter be favored over anti matter?

/my knowledge is sadly lacking.

 

[The Gopher]

<--- look at my profile.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Nobody really knows what "caused" the Big Bang, and it almost seems silly to presume that term accurately portrays what happened. With the Big Bang came both space and time, so since there was no time prior to it it seems silly to say there was such a thing as causes back then. There may have been, but in a strange, quantum mechanical way. Anyhow, then space began expanding, the energy of the universe cooling and eventually forming bosons and what-not, which were drawn together by gravity and formed stars and galaxies and galaxy clusters, and now we're just riding along as the universe continues to expand.

... in a nutshell.

 

[mke2686]

heres a really crazy idea, space and time existed before the big bang suddenly black holes popped up everywhere destroying singularity and spread everything out. I was extremely stoned when i thought of this so please dont think less of me ;p

 

[SkyWalker]

I like Mr. Lostwitheal, nice jokes, the bottom line: nothing can never become something.

The big bang theory is as dumb as a flat earth theory.

Expansion YES
Single point beginning NO

The universe has always been diverse, just smaller. Diversity expands into more diversity.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Sky.... what about entropy?

 

[crippli]

Maybe it's a hearth. And right now, the thingy is breathing outwards. Hence the expansion. And at the moment it contracts(x number of billion years still left)We experience the big bang, over and over. Until the thingy dies, and the universe with it.Apparently. But hopefully copulated, and the improved variant makes a few bazillion strokes as well. And so on.

So what we are experiencing may be one a fraction of one outgoing breath of cosmic dust.

 

[Coolydudey60]

simply said,from a bunch of nothing (space is pretty close to nothing), you can obtain a bunch of matter and an equal bunch of antimatter. now the likelihood is that these two things will not only be of small quantity, but they will also appear close to each other, cancelling themselves out. because there is no time though, an infinite amount of this will happen, and at some point (effectively instantly, cause of the lack of time) two of these things of matter and antimatter will not only appear far away enough but also they will be dense enough (big enough, whatever) so that the matter part explodes into the universe we know today. not sure what happens to the antimatter. anyways, if we com in contact with it, we're doomed.
all this also means that there should be an infinite number of other universes.

 

[SpaceYeti]

.... Space is space. Space is not nothing.

 

[Coolydudey60]

space is pretty much a void (but not quite). in a void there is nothing. what differentiates space from just nothing (apart from the fact that it has some molecules floating around) is that it obeys space,time and other natural laws

 

[jdnel99]

.... Space is space. Space is not nothing.

Very true, empty space does have energy and mass, simply negative. I'm not sure about the rules to posting links to other sites because I just joined but here is a fantastic lecture by Lawrence Krauss that explains A LOT about the universe and developing theoretical models. One of my favorite physicists btw.

http://www.youtube.com/user/richarddawkinsdotnet#p/c/D62809AD452EDB98/2/7ImvlS8PLIo

 

[DirtyBit]

Analysis of the available evidence points towards a particular beginning event, and the big bang theory is the current best bet as to what could have happened that would lead to the current evidence being what it is, using the currently accepted laws of physics. The big issue that makes it impossible to be 100% certain about the nature of the moment of the big bang is that the conditions we believe existed just prior to the big bang are such that would render the laws of physics null and void, and other evidences suggests that the laws actually arose as a result of the big bang.

I am pretty certain that the string theory suggests that there are multiple plains of existence that we are unable to observe, and that only certain forces can act between these plains (namely that gravitons can pass between them when significant force is present, which is what the LHC was trying to prove, unsuccessfully thus far) and that something caused two of these plains to collide, which provided the energy for the big bang to occur.

 

[A22]

I know that it was the beggining of everything - including time. I just can't understand that - which makes hard for me to accept it.

 

[SpaceYeti]

I know that it was the beggining of everything - including time. I just can't understand that - which makes hard for me to accept it.

Our senses and faculties were not created for the purpose of understanding, they were simply useful tools in remaining alive long enough to reproduce.

 

[A22]

Our senses and faculties were not created for the purpose of understanding, they were simply useful tools in remaining alive long enough to reproduce.

That's... sad but true. Although understanding is the the basis for knowledge, which is what made our species what it is today, don't you agree?

 

[SpaceYeti]

That's... sad but true. Although understanding is the the basis for knowledge, which is what made our species what it is today, don't you agree?

A fortunate side-effect.

 

[jdnel99]

Our senses and faculties were not created for the purpose of understanding, they were simply useful tools in remaining alive long enough to reproduce.

The evolution of sentient biology is the Universe's way of learning how to understand itself, not to only merely reproduce. Although our senses aided our evolution, as sentient beings, we give ourselves (as well as our faculties) our own purpose in the universe.

 

[DirtyBit]

Our senses and faculties were not created for the purpose of understanding, they were simply useful tools in remaining alive long enough to reproduce.

Interesting to think about. It reminds me of a video I once saw in which some guy was trying to explain to others that the universe as we understand it (in a visual sense at least) is actually just our brain turning light waves into a 3D image inside our brains, and that the universe in fact probably "appears" (in the sense of how we understand that word) quite different from how we perceive it. Interesting stuff.