How do you know you are not an ISTP

[david251]

I myself am suspecting whether I am an ISTP, but I m not referring to ISTPs description which fits keirseys theory of temperaments. I am referring to cognitive functions according to which an ISTP could be interested in thinking abstract matters as much (or closely as much) as INTPs (which stands in big contrast to keirseys description of ISTPS). Thia is possible since ISTPs and INTPs share the same dominant function Ti. How do you know you are not an ISTP?

 

[Pizzabeak]

Highly doubt it.

How do you know you are not an ISTP?

Simply put, I do not. Maybe a practitioner can tell me though.



Mostly just assume that if I were I'd be better (probably have capability though) and more drive for sports and activity, although that seems like a simple way of looking at it. I can reasonably enough say that my interest in a thing stems from a want of perfectionism rather than an excitement for pure participation, which again is an admittedly insubstantial distinction... If one were Ti-Se what would be prioritized?

All I can say is I'd probably care more about certain things than I do now, although as it is I most likely don't care about Ti-Ne stuff enough and certainly not Fi-Ne or Fi-Se either.

 

[RaBind]

The difference is in their Auxiliary and Tertiary. Extraverted Sensing and Introverted Intuition for ISTPs while Extraverted Intuition and Introverted Sensing for intps. Correct me if Im wrong but I think in this case the Auxiliary dictates the area in which the Dominant function is most utilized. The prevalence of Ne over Se to feed my Ti is pretty plain to see.

 

[scenefinale]

I myself am suspecting whether I am an ISTP, but I m not referring to ISTPs description which fits keirseys theory of temperaments. I am referring to cognitive functions according to which an ISTP could be interested in thinking abstract matters as much (or closely as much) as INTPs (which stands in big contrast to keirseys description of ISTPS). Thia is possible since ISTPs and INTPs share the same dominant function Ti. How do you know you are not an ISTP?

The Mu and Zeta dyads are quite different. With sufficient observation one can notice the blatant differences between the two.

http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=20395
If you use that thread to your advantage you can learn the difference.

 

[Sockrates]

The Mu and Zeta dyads are quite different. With sufficient observation one can notice the blatant differences between the two.

http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=20395
If you use that thread to your advantage you can learn the difference.

Any chance you could explain the Zeta and Kappa dyads in relation to each other?

 

[OrLevitate]

I'm curious about why you want to know what type you are, you and everyone actually. Is it because you think there are more variables of identity that you think you don't understand?

 

[Anktark]

Easy- I start making a cup of tea, but end with existential crisis and my right hand as my secret overlord which grew me for the purposes of more sensory input and communication over distance with other right hands.

 

[Sockrates]

I'm curious about why you want to know what type you are, you and everyone actually. Is it because you think there are more variables of identity that you think you don't understand?

I think I am an INTx. This is because as perceiving as I may be, once I have a set opinion it generally doesn't change. These opinions are deep understanding even if they appear to be shallow since I don't care to explain them much. I/E is a fair standard, S/N doesn't seem ideal, T/F is fair, I think more evolved people are T.

 

[scenefinale]

Any chance you could explain the Zeta and Kappa dyads in relation to each other?

Yes, but unfortunately it is part of a larger presentation which is still in the works. Stay tuned!

 

[david251]

The difference is in their Auxiliary and Tertiary. Extraverted Sensing and Introverted Intuition for ISTPs while Extraverted Intuition and Introverted Sensing for intps. Correct me if Im wrong but I think in this case the Auxiliary dictates the area in which the Dominant function is most utilized. The prevalence of Ne over Se to feed my Ti is pretty plain to see.

I have difficulties recognizing whether I use Ne or not. I read that Ne is all about unconsciously striving to see possibilities in situations whether Se stribes for actuality. I do think I think of possibilities a lot but I m not sure if this is Ne because Ne is supposed to be a an unconscsious proccess whereas when I m thinking of possibilities or of relations of things to one another I do it in a very conscious way which makes me think this is Ti and not Ne. I am referring to Jung's description of Ne because in my opinion he gives theost accurate descriptions of functions.

Also this happens rarely but there are some short periods of time when I m using Se. I suddenly become consciously aware of the superfices of things around me

. These two reasons make it difficult to decide whether my auxilliary is Ne or Se, hence : whether I am an INTP or a mistyped ISTP.

 

[david251]

I'm curious about why you want to know what type you are, you and everyone actually. Is it because you think there are more variables of identity that you think you don't understand?

I guess mbti gives you the impression that you can understand yourself better if you know whats your type and the potential that this holds makes it worthwile to squeeze your brain in a constant effort to understand what your type is.

 

[Teffnology]

Yes, but unfortunately it is part of a larger presentation which is still in the works. Stay tuned!

Your typing methods seem to have a considerable amount of thought and research put into them.
I am curious on the sources you have used to build your typing knowledge foundation.

 

[Architect]

How do you know you are not an ISTP?

It's quite obvious

INTP vs ISTP

The auxiliaries are intuition versus sensation which is a glaring difference. INTP's have no Se in their stack but ISTP's have it second, and vice-versa on Ne. ISTP's generally have strong interest in sports, are usually larger/more muscled physically, and usually have little patience for theory. Oh they'll be able to get through the theory classes just fine due to their Ti, but they're more hands on and practical results orientated people.

Stand yourself next to an ISTP or two and you'll know, they're easy to find. My brother and many of my colleagues are members of that team.

 

[scenefinale]

Your typing methods seem to have a considerable amount of thought and research put into them.
I am curious on the sources you have used to build your typing knowledge foundation.

Mostly raw observation. I don't trust anyone else's opinion. I've had professors even who teach class on personality and not have the first clue about Type. So I try to analyze people the way Darwin analyzed the finches. Just careful observation and slow theory building.

 

[Pizzabeak]

I'm wondering if this dude is a model example of ISTP

http://youtu.be/4B6E-XJvjow