Nemi by Lise

[Sinny91]

Inspired by 'Your favorite fictional INTP's'.

I always had Nemi down for being just like me, INTP.

http://s1309.photobucket.com/user/Sinny_Dawes/media/ppol_zpspdi5fvkf.jpg.html

 

[Hadoblado]

Could you elaborate on what makes you think this character INTP?

She seems to be very expressive, emotional, fanciful, 'in the moment', is drawn to sensory experience, and identifies strongly with a culture. All of these things make me think INTP is not a good fit.

 

[Minuend]

The author, at least, always seemed very INFP to me. I mean, she looks exactly like a stereotypical INFP:

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EXACT MATCH INFP

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EXACT

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Okay, she might have a tad of sensor to her appearance

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

The author, at least, always seemed very INFP to me. I mean, she looks exactly like a stereotypical INFP:

Though she (the character) doesn't behave like an INFP, too expressive. More matching the ESFX pattern.

If you want an example of introverted behaviour then it would be that girl with blue hair. Yeah, it's a sidekick, but that's the level of interaction one usually gets from introverts in the presence of extroverted person, they just let them take the stage.

 

[Jennywocky]

I consider it a cartoon convention. They're not meant to be MBTI textbook types, they're meant to be funny; and over-the-top reactions to things are pretty typical when it comes to making people laugh. (See "Bloom County" and numerous other famous cartoons.) It's the flat page's version of emotional slapstick.

That being said, it should be understandable why dramatics being expressed by body language and facial expressions is considered more extroverted and/or more F in nature. T is typically flatter/more detached in that kind of expression, although who knows what happens in the inner world?

 

[redbaron]

Pretty hard to type a comic character but I'm going to go with ENFP if anything.

If the author is indeed INFP, maybe the comic serves as a caricatured representation of how she either wants to be or what her internal world would look like manifested externally if she suddenly lost her inhibitions.

 

[Sinny91]

Yea the INTP thing was just a side comment, I've been following the comic for like 7 years, these are selected clips.

Nemi is an introvert, she hates people, but has a small group of about 3/4 people she interacts with, and that's when she's goofiest. I selected the above piks, because they capture some of my own amusing moments perfectly; there's no way in hell I'm ES, so I'm unsure how the ES projection managed to slide in lol.

She could be T or F - I went with T because I've identified with her for a number of years.
But I reckon I'm a closet F anyway haha. There's no doubt in my mind she's INXP.

 

[Sinny91]

Could you elaborate on what makes you think this character INTP?

She seems to be very expressive, emotional, fanciful, 'in the moment', is drawn to sensory experience, and identifies strongly with a culture Sinny: (What culture?). All of these things make me think INTP is not a good fit.

Well you just described me. And I'm a 'certified' INTP lolol.

 

[Seteleechete]

I think she's an ENTP

 

[Jennywocky]

Well you just described me. And I'm a 'certified' INTP lolol.

What, you have your official papers and the matching bar code stamped on your rump?

 

[Brontosaurie]

Nemi is an introvert, she hates people, but has a small group of about 3/4 people she interacts with

no she's a noisy histrionic extravert who identifies with this "goth" subculture where everything dark and sensational is accessorized so you get people screaming about how introverted they are, cozying up to each other about how much they hate mankind, making silly farcical jokes about how dark they are, singing along about how lonely they are, being different in the exact same way.

they love to quote smart and dark "theories" but they don't think; they pose. and you can see this in Nemi. i read the comic throughout childhood. Nemi is a person who interacts with the world much in a Se-Fi fashion. she's not introverted, nor INTP, just because one of the very many things she says to make herself feel special is "i don't say a lot". her self-image is of a brooding, thoughtful, individual nature - but she doesn't act like that. Hadoblado described her very well.

 

[Brontosaurie]

Well you just described me. And I'm a 'certified' INTP lolol.

you're not. you're remarkably, clearly, not. you're one of the most blatantly non-INTP persons i've come across.

whatever "certified" means, it means nothing. no one can be trusted as a "professional MBTI consultant".

 

[Ex-User (11125)]

from what i see from the samples you provided, I know I wouldn't want to engage in any type of conversation with someone like this nemi

Edit: +1 for post #11

 

[Seteleechete]

you're not. you're remarkably, clearly, not. you're one of the most blatantly non-INTP persons i've come across.

whatever "certified" means, it means nothing. no one can be trusted as a "professional MBTI consultant".

I'd say she's INTP/ENTP or INFP so close enough *shrug*.

 

[Alias]

I'm not sure the type, probably INXP, but she's definitely a Slytherin with a likeness to Sinny91, I can tell you that.

 

[Sinny91]

no she's a noisy histrionic extravert who identifies with this "goth" subculture where everything dark and sensational is accessorized so you get people screaming about how introverted they are, cozying up to each other about how much they hate mankind, making silly farcical jokes about how dark they are, singing along about how lonely they are, being different in the exact same way.

they love to quote smart and dark "theories" but they don't think; they pose. and you can see this in Nemi. i read the comic throughout childhood. Nemi is a person who interacts with the world much in a Se-Fi fashion. she's not introverted, nor INTP, just because one of the very many things she says to make herself feel special is "i don't say a lot". her self-image is of a brooding, thoughtful, individual nature - but she doesn't act like that. Hadoblado described her very well.

Well, it's all about perspective. I assume Nemi to be an Introvert, who's main moments are captured when socialising - would be a fairly dull comic if she didn't interact with anyone, right? Also, how are you in a position to judge whether the 'look' is a genuine reflection of herself, or a projected one? It's my understanding that P's express themselves for there own sakes, and not that of others? Am I straying into lala land? Because I still have much to learn in regards to typology. When does Nemi ever pose? If she's always posing, she's not flattering anyone lol. Nemi is so not Se. A cursory glace at the comic's history demonstrates this, she's entirely abstract.

Hadoblado described her very well.

As I said, he described me to.

 

[Sinny91]

you're not. you're remarkably, clearly, not. you're one of the most blatantly non-INTP persons i've come across.

whatever "certified" means, it means nothing. no one can be trusted as a "professional MBTI consultant".

Luckily for me, your opinion pales in comparison to the MBTI test.

 

[Sinny91]

I'm not sure the type, probably INXP, but she's definitely a Slytherin with a likeness to Sinny91, I can tell you that.

Alias gets it

 

[Jennywocky]

Unlike bronto and others, I don't scan Nemi as an extrovert, although she does seem far more likely to be Feeling and/or e4.

I also agree with those who say your type isn't likely to be INTP; you have a lot of values-ridden threads and posting, including how you approached the topic of indulgent/offensive British guy. Not a lot of detachment there in your thinking, manner, or posting style ... for a protracted amount of time... but very VERY much like what I have seen from my FP friends repeatedly once they get obsessed with an issue of someone's perceived (im)morality.

I also don't place stock in "certified" tests either. It's like criminal profiling: Just because you have practice or a degree doesn't mean you're good at it... "good" is defined by your results. But MBTI isn't very well-regulated and how can you check your "results"? At least with criminals, you either catch the guy who did it (or have a close profile to the actual guy) or you do not, so it can be evaluated by one's results. I'm more inclined to think the test results you got are inaccurate and the tester was off.

But anyway, aside from all that... I thought the cartoon was amusing. So thanks for that. I've done some cartooning and liked the style.

 

[Sinny91]

What can I say, that British guy 'gets my goat'. I've left the thread as it is for the mean time, because I'm aware that I need to be in a more objective frame of mind to continue it. I stand by my cause, but that's a topic which I find emotionally draining. Politics and world affairs fuel me and drain me, make of that what you will. I've taken MBTI 5 times, results 4x INTP 1x INFP.

I have stated previously, I identify with both, depending on what mood I'm in. More so INTP, but I feel like I absorb both.

In regards to 'value ridden threads', what else would I make threads about? (rhetorical). In honesty, I was quite disappointed to find how 'immature' some of the folks and content on/of this forum are.. I soon clocked on to the younger contributors.. But Don't I qualify as one of them? lol.

I'm not really a fan of 'certified' either, hence the [' '] My fingers typed the word without much thought.

Your welcome, was supposed to be about the cartoon and not type anyway, I really should pay more attention to the commentary in my OP's. Now I realise how annoying it is for others when I pick apart their narrative haha.

 

[Brontosaurie]

thank you post 13 you're not so bad yourself.

 

[Jennywocky]

Your welcome, was supposed to be about the cartoon and not type anyway, I really should pay more attention to the commentary in my OP's. Now I realise how annoying it is for others when I pick apart their narrative haha.

This site is notorious for derails over side details. It's like posting a picture of a vehicle where someone asks whether others will think the car is a good vehicle, and the majority of the discusson ends up revolving on whether the vehicle will be a high-profile target for thievery and thus an irrational choice (versus how the car actually functions when driving).

Was this just a webcomic? I didn't see a site in the few pics I checked, it just looked like photobucket pics. Hmm... doh, I guess I could just actually Google it. But hell...

 

[Sinny91]

Yea that's my bucket. Keep well away, cuz you will think I'm barmy by the time your done browsing haha. (Speaking of which I've only used bucket to paste, so I'm not aware of my settings or access by others).

I know it's printed in the Metro News Paper over here, and maybe some publications in Europe. Seems to have an online fan base tho..

 

[Alias]

Your welcome, was supposed to be about the cartoon and not type anyway, I really should pay more attention to the commentary in my OP's.

Yeah, since it's a cartoon I can go without knowing her exact type. INTP or not, it was still funny and relatable.

 

[The Gopher]

I'm not going to psychoanalysis a comic but... Ahh who am I kidding. It's written not for people who are like that to relate to but for people who want to be like that and identify with the somewhat idealistic state they wish they were perceived as.

A lot of people have the type they are and the type they want to be. Not even in mbti terms just simply the type of person. In this particular comic I would say it's focused around anxiety and frustration.

INFP's (or any other introverted anxious type of person) could identify with this as they want to take pride in their weirdness and allow their frustrations to be heard. Also they like appearing mysterious, different and cynical.

Would they ever imitate a frog in an interview? No but that symbolizes that they are weird and FREE. They don't care about what other people think and are confident in themselves.

In particular the SFP's would relate due to being mystical and different. Breaking the mold and not being SJ like. Along with the anxiety stuff. As far as actually acting like the comics SFP's would likely be closer particularly extroverted ones however they would relate less than the introverted ones who are like that in brief moments or with good friends and wish they were free to be more like that in general cherry picking the parts of the personality they are interested in.

I will now stop talking nonsense.

 

[Sinny91]

Well, I'll be on my way re-reading up on SFP's.
In regards to interviews.. My INTP cousin done something daft at the end of one not long ago. Can't remember it exactly, but I was like OMFG, as if you said that lol

 

[The Gopher]

Heh was it intentionally daft or accidentally though? Also a little exaggeration makes stories more interesting.

 

[Jennywocky]

I will now stop talking nonsense.

Never stop.

 

[Sinny91]

Heh was it intentionally daft or accidentally though? Also a little exaggeration makes stories more interesting.

Intentional, I think. I think my cousins a head case lol.

 

[Brontosaurie]

Good nonsense though i think you covered it pretty well though it got messy at the end but that's part of it.

 

[eagor]

i like it, kinda reminds me of jthm except nny was male and wildly unstable

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edit: upon further reading i'd like to stress the word kinda

 

[Lapis Lazuli]

Wild flower

...
I'm a wolf child, girl
Howlin' for you
Wild flower
Star of my dreams
The most beautiful thing, yeah
...

 

[onesteptwostep]

Ohh this is like a much more realistic version of the explosm comics.

 

[Cherry Cola]

If you think Nemi is an INTP your conception of the INTP-type is wrong, mainly cause Nemi is a feeler :S

Moreover maybe like add some actual content before making a thread? this just looks like an attempt to make people read a comic you like and which represents you, sort of like a second introduction thread. Nothing wrong with that in itself, its just its not really interesting when there's no substance to go along with it.

its like a hamburger with only the bread, not nasty in anyway but also not a complete dish :P

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

there's no way in hell I'm ES, so I'm unsure how the ES projection managed to slide in lol.

So you respond to a projection with a projection? At best both are wrong.
There's always a successful way that leads through hell.

 

[Sinny91]

If you think Nemi is an INTP your conception of the INTP-type is wrong, mainly cause Nemi is a feeler :S

And you know this as fact do you? T/F has already been discussed.

Moreover maybe like add some actual content before making a thread? this just looks like an attempt to make people read a comic you like and which represents you, sort of like a second introduction thread.

That's exactly what it is.

 

[Sinny91]

So you respond to a projection with a projection? At best both are wrong.
There's always a successful way that leads through hell.

How is saying 'I'm unsure' making a projection? If anything it's offering you invite to further explain your reasoning.

 

[Jennywocky]

I get the impression you're not allowed to extrovert anything, especially emotion, or suddenly people think you're an ESF.

But type is more complicated than that.

 

[Sinny91]

I agree Jenny.

 

[Brontosaurie]

And you know this as fact do you?

why are you saying this with sarcastic triumph when your own opinion is equally subjective?

 

[Sinny91]

Because my opinion was presented as an opinion - Cola's was not.

Why do you care? ha.

 

[The Gopher]

I get the impression you're not allowed to extrovert anything, especially emotion, or suddenly people think you're an ESF.

But type is more complicated than that.

Yeah I get this a fair deal. I'm OBVIOUSLY an ESFP! (you know I kinda wish I was) Remember kids don't hate on S types hate on SJ types.*


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[Brontosaurie]

Because my opinion was presented as an opinion - Cola's was not.

Why do you care? ha.

how convenient. i see you presenting that as fact.

why do you care if i care?

 

[Sinny91]

Because it is an observable fact, in the context defined by the construction of the English language. I don't care, half your posts are trollish (IMO). I'm only replying because I'm bored and my other forum is currently down, and I enjoy roundabouts.

 

[Cherry Cola]

And you know this as fact do you? T/F has already been discussed.



That's exactly what it is.

Yup, as a fact. Dont see why I should bother to make an argument, its rather obvious, she doesn't fit the INTP-bill. You still havent said anything sensemaking to support INTP either, so why so intent on questioning others?

Say something that actually warrants arguing against. Until then I dont see why I should write an argument about something this obvious, Nemi isn't an intp, and Nemis not portrayed as an intp. You have access to Nemi and to info about intps, so do your own homework. It's not particularly interesting arguing that a peach isn't a pear with someone who can't tell fruit apart.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Because it is an observable fact, in the context defined by the construction of the English language. I don't care, half your posts are trollish (IMO). I'm only replying because I'm bored and my other forum is currently down, and I enjoy roundabouts.

Lol

How is saying 'I'm unsure' making a projection? If anything it's offering you invite to further explain your reasoning.

Yeah, don't expect people to reason with you after putting up such a show.

You made a statement of fact, that you were unsure how the projection happened. I noted you already accepted it was a projection, while it might be a part of discussion. The sentence structure already was decided, you were unsure how it happened, not whether it did happen.

Another thing is arguing subjective impressions on a pseudo-scientific model, when it's already been said that typing fictitious characters doesn't work, good luck with that. It's like palm reading and then guessing that person's tarot setup.

I get the impression you're not allowed to extrovert anything, especially emotion, or suddenly people think you're an ESF.

But type is more complicated than that.

False crowd is dangerous, it's autoimmune response of introverts I guess.

 

[StevenM]

So far, all I've got is extroverted judging, and possibly feeling over thinking. Very rough, but maybe IxFJ. But that's just my subjective viewpoint. *For sinny, that is.

Remember kids don't hate on S types hate on SJ types.*
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[Sinny91]

You made a statement of fact, that you were unsure how the projection happened. I noted you already accepted it was a projection, while it might be a part of discussion. The sentence structure already was decided, you were unsure how it happened, not whether it did happen.

Oh yea. Ha. Sinny's eating her own shorts.