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ProxyAmenRa

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I was in a car accident today. A person on a motor bike veered into my lane. I had little to no time to break. Since I was on a bridge there was no where to swerve to. I put my foot on my break as hard as I could but we still collided. The lady flew over my car. I sat in the car for around a minute before people ran over to yelling at me to turn off the engine and get out. I got out, looked at the woman and proceeded to get off the road. Others ran to aid her.

The motor bike and my car were destroyed. The lady ended up not being able to move her legs. I am fine.

I live 100km away from where I work...I need a new car.
 

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I am glad the lady is not dead. Sadly, she will be in hospital for quite some time.
 

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could she feel her legs atleast?
 

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Sad about the Car.


In sewer ants ? (I assume she'll be the one paying out since it was her veering over into your lane and not vice-versa)


edit: oh, and too bad about the lady... How young is she ?
 

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Sad about the Car.


In sewer ants ? (I assume she'll be the one paying out since it was her veering over into your lane and not vice-versa)

Yes, the woman is liable. It is good that she has insurance. I would hate to think that she would be having to deal with financial issues while in hospital.

She appeared to be around 30.
 

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Then the things will probably work out.

As for now, you'll just have to make due as you can, find out how the whole reimbursement works and get yourself a new car.



Though it is a pity she'll never walk again, but that is among the risks you take on a motorcycle.
Motorcycle = Freedom,
Freedom = Risk.

Part of the allure is precisely the risk involved.

She should have been well aware of the dangers, and, crudely speaking, we are right to imagine it was her being reckless that caused the accident. (it's probably very harsh, but this is life. It's not your fault, and I hope you don't assume responsibility for it.)


If it sounds like I'm condemning her, that's not my point at all.
The mind is not completely aware at all times, and this is just as likely a slight slip of attention on her side, which in this case lead to catastrophic (non-reversible) outcomes.
 

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Bummer, must have been a scene.
 

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Bummer, must have been a scene.

Most definitely. Pieces of the car and bike were everywhere. Quite a large crowed of people appeared. I am glad they did. They all handled the situation quite well. They called police and ambulance services. In addition, a person set up a series of orange cones to prevent traffic from flowing through. This while I was in shock and unable to discern what to do.
 

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Aww. I'm really sad to hear this. Especially the poor woman. Hope she's not paralysed; that'd suck massive balls, no matter whose fault it is. Glad that you're in one, functional piece. Machines are replaceable; body parts are not.

Wonder if we lost anyone in the Norway shooting?
 

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I was in a car accident today. A person on a motor bike veered into my lane. I had little to no time to break.

I feel zero sympathy for people that drive motorcycles like this. Your experience is why. It's not only unsafe for them, but harder for you to drive safely. There's no reason why someone can't drive safely on a motorcycle and still enjoy riding it.

I'm sure I'm being an asshole, but it's true. I really don't care if she is paralyzed from the waist down. I'm more concerned that you have lost time and money over her deliberate recklessness.
 

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I feel zero sympathy for people that drive motorcycles like this. Your experience is why. It's not only unsafe for them, but harder for you to drive safely. There's no reason why someone can't drive safely on a motorcycle and still enjoy riding it.

I'm sure I'm being an asshole, but it's true. I really don't care if she is paralyzed from the waist down. I'm more concerned that you have lost time and money over her deliberate recklessness.

The economics of the situation is quite interesting. I bought the car for $8000. I will receive around $1500 from their insurance agency. Minus $1000 due to depreciation of the value of the car. That means I'm $5500 out of pocket there. I must buy a new functioning car that won't break down all the time, so that will be around $8000. I loose income for this week ($1450, in addition income from week to week is not guaranteed) and must spend $50 on a taxi ride to get to an uni exam. All in all, I have lost around $15000. Did I mention that I'm rather poor at the moment? The whole thing about working as an engineer part time.

It is interesting how one person's mistake costs another quite a substantial amount of money. I'm not angry, just somewhat annoyed. It is as what Cheese states: 'Machines are replaceable, lives are not.'
 

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You should buy a Vespa. They are sexy.

Ohh dear god no.

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I am buying a BMW with a turbo. XD In addition, after seeing the lady bounce of my wind screen I have been put off the whole motor bike/scooter idea.
 

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I am glad to hear you are okay. Have you checked to see if her insurance will pay for a rental? I am not sure how it works over there, but I believe you can get them to pay for a rental. Keep your taxi cab reciepts, Her insurance shoud reimburse you for the expenses you have incurred do to her negligence.
 

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Ohh dear god no.

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I am buying a BMW with a turbo. XD In addition, after seeing the lady bounce of my wind screen I have been put off the whole motor bike/scooter idea.

BMW FTW!! Now you have to swerve around without indicator lights and badly park your car in the supermarket.

The only BMW I know that has a turbo would be 2002. After that it is all aftermarket stuff. I don't think you can get yourself a new 335i 135i Z4 or X6 at $8K. But who knows I was browsing on an American forum and there were E34 525is bought for $500!

WTF. Insurance shells out only $1500? Was the wrecked car cheap?

You can always get a motorbike, ride it recklessly, and crash it just like she did just for the sake of foreshadow.

Getting a motorbike is practically putting Death's job on the line. Everyday you don't die his boss is yelling at him.
 

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I am glad to hear you are okay. Have you checked to see if her insurance will pay for a rental? I am not sure how it works over there, but I believe you can get them to pay for a rental. Keep your taxi cab reciepts, Her insurance shoud reimburse you for the expenses you have incurred do to her negligence.

They have not filed a claim yet. I am on the run around.
 

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All this scary vehicle talk is over the head of my simple, public train taking self. :phear:
 

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The economics of the situation is quite interesting. I bought the car for $8000. I will receive around $1500 from their insurance agency. Minus $1000 due to depreciation of the value of the car. That means I'm $5500 out of pocket there. I must buy a new functioning car that won't break down all the time, so that will be around $8000. I loose income for this week ($1450, in addition income from week to week is not guaranteed) and must spend $50 on a taxi ride to get to an uni exam. All in all, I have lost around $15000. Did I mention that I'm rather poor at the moment? The whole thing about working as an engineer part time.

It is interesting how one person's mistake costs another quite a substantial amount of money. I'm not angry, just somewhat annoyed. It is as what Cheese states: 'Machines are replaceable, lives are not.'


sue the lady.
 

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I didn't even know you'd said that Phoenix. Oh well, repetition isn't always a bad thing.
 

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I feel zero sympathy for people that drive motorcycles like this. Your experience is why. It's not only unsafe for them, but harder for you to drive safely.

Assuming she is a bad driver because she veered into Proxy's lane? We don't know the reason(s) yet as to why she swerved? Could happen to anyone. She could have had a black-out, or something could have gone wrong with the bike. And yes, she could be a "bad" driver.

I am sorry this happened to you Proxy.
 

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Proxy, two things.

Don't assume this is all going to end with her culpable. Be very careful what you say and what you post. It is very difficult to predict what will boomerang on you.

Second, you are fucked up, dude. Your verbal patterns and syntax are uptight and stilted and your attempts to deal with this all rationally are so structured they're like brick walls. It's all a long way from your normal posts. I don't know what resources you have available, but consider just talking about this with someone ( not a police officer). No long range diagnosis here, but if you suspect this is more than a casual incident in your psyche, let me assure you that's reflected in your, umm, cyber demeanor.

As it should be. Accidents are real life-shakers. Just don't let it sneak up on you and whack you.

If you already know that, let me add that as time goes by the turmoil inside subsides.

Good luck working this out.
 

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Proxy, two things.

Don't assume this is all going to end with her culpable. Be very careful what you say and what you post. It is very difficult to predict what will boomerang on you.

Second, you are fucked up, dude. Your verbal patterns and syntax are uptight and stilted and your attempts to deal with this all rationally are so structured they're like brick walls. It's all a long way from your normal posts. I don't know what resources you have available, but consider just talking about this with someone ( not a police officer). No long range diagnosis here, but if you suspect this is more than a casual incident in your psyche, let me assure you that's reflected in your, umm, cyber demeanor.

As it should be. Accidents are real life-shakers. Just don't let it sneak up on you and whack you.

If you already know that, let me add that as time goes by the turmoil inside subsides.

Good luck working this out.

The second paragraph pretty much sums up what I wish I could have put in words. I suppose I'm lacking in the articulating department.

When I first read it I was thinking along the lines of selfishness or a lack of compassion. Either that or the happening of this accident had such an effect that the mind has become sort of desensitized.

Stuff happens. What can I say?

Stay positive perhaps.

By the way, I thought the laws of karma applied only when an action was carried out?

Now I have to watch out for a tidal wave of wrongs.
 

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Second, you are fucked up, dude. Your verbal patterns and syntax are uptight and stilted and your attempts to deal with this all rationally are so structured they're like brick walls. It's all a long way from your normal posts. I don't know what resources you have available, but consider just talking about this with someone ( not a police officer). No long range diagnosis here, but if you suspect this is more than a casual incident in your psyche, let me assure you that's reflected in your, umm, cyber demeanor.

I could not sleep for two nights after the event. I have had no training in crisis management when in a state of shock. Does this make you happy?
 

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Proxy, two things.

Don't assume this is all going to end with her culpable. Be very careful what you say and what you post. It is very difficult to predict what will boomerang on you.

wtf.

I am pretty sure it is.

Can these forum posts boomerang back at you??? I hope not. I don't see too many ways it can.

Besides, a person who uses motorbike to commute on highways is indeed partially insane.

Would proxy have to see someone find their way on to his windscreen if they were driving a car?

I don't think so.

In other countries it is illegal to use motorbikes on highways for this very damned reason.

It's hard to be warm and caring when people are trying to figure out how to go over car roofs spontaneously.
 

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I could not sleep for two nights after the event. I have had no training in crisis management when in a state of shock. Does this make you happy?


Nope. Makes me think you might want to get an appointment for counseling. INTPs can brood for a long time without input from a third party. With input, the experience can be normalized more quickly. Powerful and corrosive emotions are released by events like you've gone through. We aren't good with even the benign emotions. Acknowledge the obvious and supplement your ability to get through this.

All said with best wishes, dude.
 

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wtf.

I am pretty sure it is.

Can these forum posts boomerang back at you??? I hope not. I don't see too many ways it can.

Besides, a person who uses motorbike to commute on highways is indeed partially insane.

Would proxy have to see someone find their way on to his windscreen if they were driving a car?

I don't think so.

Spend some time in civil court and you'll see the sometimes unpredictable results when reality, perception, deceit and emotions come into play. And comments made in cyber forums fall into the same category as "statements you make without concern for who hears them." If you have no reasonable expectation of privacy, it can end up raising issues in both criminal and civil trials.
 

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Spend some time in civil court and you'll see the sometimes unpredictable results when reality, perception, deceit and emotions come into play. And comments made in cyber forums fall into the same category as "statements you make without concern for who hears them." If you have no reasonable expectation of privacy, it can end up raising issues in both criminal and civil trials.

So sometime in the future someone can trace this and use it in front of the jury?
I don't know how legal that would be considering the agreement and terms of use or how legitimate would it be in court. That is scary enough for me to not be on this forum altogether. "xxxx xxxxx by username xxxxx confessed to have had drug problems."
Doesn't seem likely after all the people who confessed drug use.

I agree about civil courts and Americans suing each other. We don't have that here.
 

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Hope you do well proxy, for me in times like yours time has always seemed so irrelevant even though I truly knew it was its own remedy to itself. I hope you have a speedy, easy path.

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