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Need help with a iq question

IntpWish

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Hi

I was struggling with finding the solution to a iq question even tho I know the answer was hoping someone could find the solution.

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The answer is the figure in the middle column bottom row, but why?
 

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The only pattern I could find is: If each step is based on the 2 before it, it seems that 2 squares on the bottom (step 3) is an instruction to vertically flip what came before it (step 4 is a vertically flipped version of step 2; and step 8 is a vertically flipped version of step 6 (because step 7 is the 2 bottom squares again)).
 
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Nope. In general terms because I don't want to give my thinking away: Look for a higher order trend/trends/dimension in rotation, identify which directions those trends are moving, and then it's actually a process of elimination.

It's incorrect to assume everything is read left to right and top to bottom like English text...
 

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The first thing I saw was a matrix. It appears to be antisymmetric, but it isn't. (1,3) and (3,1) are identical rather than anti. Which means rage. Rage. RAGE. Why, oh why, would they screw over such elegance. :(
 

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thehabitatdoctor, are you saying you actually see the pattern, or you just eliminated the rest for not following a previously seen trend? Because in that case we still can't eliminate the answer in the third column of the first row, since it's a vertical flip of an existing element, which we have seen.

I did consider rotation as well as "reading" in different directions but couldn't see anything consistent that way.

Another thought was that it's a table, where the first row and first column are headers, but that doesn't work since the 2 column headers are identical.

I'm thinking the center must have some relation to the top left since they both have a unique trait (top left is empty, center has mixed sizes on the left).
 
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Maybe what you're really looking at is a set of silhouettes in 3-D space, and maybe there is an additive pattern...

EDIT: Also consider that large silhouettes effectively hide smaller ones from view.
 

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The only pattern I could find is: If each step is based on the 2 before it, it seems that 2 squares on the bottom (step 3) is an instruction to vertically flip what came before it (step 4 is a vertically flipped version of step 2; and step 8 is a vertically flipped version of step 6 (because step 7 is the 2 bottom squares again)).

Yeah I think we see the same thing.

This is the pattern I found(flipped / mirror images), plus the grammar mistake:

http://i.imgur.com/Q8Us7.png

Eh, nevermind. It doesn't work if the correct answer is the bottom middle, because it would not be a mirror flip.
 

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The only pattern I can see is that every time I think of a possible pattern, I find an exception within seconds...

*looks at task hopefully*

*realises this was the exception*

*... and therefore not!*

*cries*
 

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Hope you'll give out the whole solution eventually thehabitatdoctor cause this I think I wont manage this one even with the hints :P
 

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I'm going to be angry if it turns out not to be continuous or fully dependent on itself and we all wasted our time looking for 100% consistency (i.e each row is a self-contained pattern or something).

Maybe what you're really looking at is a set of silhouettes in 3-D space, and maybe there is an additive pattern...

If it's 3D rotations, it could only be around the Y axis, or only by 180 degrees around the X and Z axes. Otherwise the horizontal line would become a square (around X) or a vertical line (around Z).

Are the rows rotations around Y, and the columns 180-degree rotations? The "additive pattern" would then have to be through columns, or else each row would be identical but flipped...
 

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Row 3 = [row 1 + row 2]*(-1)

Max = big square (meaning big square plus little square still equals big square)
 

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The first thing I saw was "Pick a answer" on the form itself (Not OP's typo). That was kind of a surprise on an IQ test. I found this so disconcerting I couldn't tackle the actual question. :o
 

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This is getting complicated, but I think I found one pattern.

One thing I thought is how there might be those two big blobs at the end. If we take for granted that there are two types of blobs at these sticks. There are the standard small blobs at the other end (except for the first one, more on that later), and then there is the possibility of small or big blobs at the other end.

Now, if we divide these squares into four groups of four squares, we get the following. In the groups of four, the bottom right square seems to indicate how many squares in that group have the standard small blobs at the other end. For example, in the top left group, only three squares have the standard small blobs at the other end. This means, that in the bottom right square of the top left group the other blobs indicate this by having one small blob and one big blob, these indicating the number 3, if we count one big blob as having the value of two squares with standard small blobs. In a similar way, the bottom left group has the standard small blops in all four squares, meaning that the bottom right square in that group has the two big blobs indicating the value 4.

This would mean, that because the upper row and the left column have no blobs other than the two standard blobs, their purpose is only to indicate the value for the bottom right square of their group, hence the empty line at the top left corner.

Am I grasping at straws here? :confused:
 

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I can spot about 4 different ways of looking at this. It appears that the top right answer is correct, but I can see how it can also be the bottom left. If I had to pick one, I think I would go with the top right.
 

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I'm not sure, but shouldn't it say pick an answer instead of pick a answer?

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