own8ge

[own8ge]

I'm impossible to understand. This is not because I'm irrational, but I'm nothing like universal human beings. I could write a book about myself using only but logic, and no1 would still understand. (Don't take "nothing like human beings" in the wrong context)

I get frustrated with human beings their simplicity. In general their judgement sucks and they make no sense or don't make a point. They also jump to conclusion of which I think: "Can't you just THINK?!". It makes me frustrated because I can do nothing but ignore this frustration, if I would help the other by explaining his nonsense they consider me arrogant, aloof, hateful or rebellious.
(Don't get me wrong, even though I get frustrated with them, I do understand them and have a sense of love for them)

I don't watch TV because I would get frustrated with it's stupidity. TV makes stupid.

I don't commit to sexual drives

My intentions are always good. But I'm a real pain in the ass. Nevertheless, I can't seem but to keep on bothering.

 

[own8ge]

Oh hey own8ge!
I totally understand that 2nd part, and TV does make stupid huh... Lets have sex?

 

[Latte]

:3

 

[DrSketchpad]

Welcome bretheren...

 

[Hadoblado]

A lot of TV makes stupid, but not all. It is fundamentally a facilitator of visual and audio information, how could that necessarily make people stupid?

And yes, you do come off as a tad arrogant

People suck, I believe wisdom is the acceptance of this.

 

[Tony3d]

People are simply what they are, if you don't like that, then it is your expectations of them that is stupid, not the people themselves.

If I put bread into a toaster and expect to get scrambled eggs as a result, then I am the stupid one, not the toaster.

 

[Etheri]

I get frustrated with human beings their simplicity. In general their judgement sucks and they make no sense or don't make a point. They also jump to conclusion of which I think: "Can't you just THINK?!".

• I'll induce this feeling through this post.
• I might get some heat for stating this, but when did that ever stop me?
• I am very aware of how invalid and generalised my argument is. *I also may be exagerating.

Are these people typically sensors? I can't help it, but sometimes talking to them just induces this misanthropic feeling inside me where I think humanity is doomed. Somehow, they always* think they understand what I'm trying to say, and yet they're never* even close.

 

[Minuend]

Sometimes life is difficult to understand. I believe this man gave it a philosophical underpinning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkBVDh7my9Q

 

[Psychic Child]

By no1 you underestimated meh.
you hurt meh so much.
cry cry

 

[Latte]

By no1 you underestimated meh.
you hurt meh so much.
cry cry

hit me right in the heart

 

[Solitaire U.]

The X-box Live comms would be impressed. Welcome!

 

[own8ge]

Responding to Posts.

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@DrSketchpad

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Welcome bretheren...

Thank you sir

@Hadoblado

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A lot of TV makes stupid, but not all. It is fundamentally a facilitator of visual and audio information, how could that necessarily make people stupid?

Perhaps.

And yes, you do come off as a tad arrogant

Thanks for the honesty.

People suck, I believe wisdom is the acceptance of this.

Wise words. Wise words indeed.

@Tony3d

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People are simply what they are, if you don't like that, then it is your expectations of them that is stupid, not the people themselves.

If I put bread into a toaster and expect to get scrambled eggs as a result, then I am the stupid one, not the toaster.

Nice.
But your theory doesn't imply to what I was trying to convey. The frustration doesn't come from over estimating their abilities or whatnot. Just everything around that. (Making sense? I hope so.)

@Etheri

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• I'll induce this feeling through this post.
• I might get some heat for stating this, but when did that ever stop me?
• I am very aware of how invalid and generalised my argument is. *I also may be exagerating.

Are these people typically sensors? I can't help it, but sometimes talking to them just induces this misanthropic feeling inside me where I think humanity is doomed. Somehow, they always* think they understand what I'm trying to say, and yet they're never* even close.

Typically, yeah. But not limited by.
And oh god, yes. YES!

@Minuend

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Sometimes life is difficult to understand. I believe this man gave it a philosophical underpinning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkBVDh7my9Q

lol, ENFJ alert?

@Psychic Child

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By no1 you underestimated meh.
you hurt meh so much.
cry cry

I don't know you, how could i underestimate you then? Well Well, Your post was quite sad though. Well done, I suppose.

@Solitaire U.

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The X-box Live comms would be impressed. Welcome!

X-Box Live comms?
The Xbox live communities? -Just because my name is own8ge, you assume I play Xbox? Or...?

@Latte

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I'M NOT YOUR FUCKING PUSSY GIRL YEAH!? -Just kidding. I love you too. Not being sarcastic right now, Thank you. Thank you indeed.

 

[Solitaire U.]

It has little to do with your username, and much to do with your apparent...

condescending arrogance, for lack of a better description.

No problem for me personally, but you might incur some difficulties nonetheless.

 

[own8ge]

condescending arrogance, for lack of a better description.

Thanks for your honesty, I suppose.
You are a little quick on the conclusions I'd say.
Going from that, I'd add that you have been adjusting yourself to "the society"; Following the rules at school, and staying in line. Just so you could graduate.

But that just is, to draw conclusions. Just saying, to draw conclusions.

 

[Tony3d]

Nice.
But your theory doesn't imply to what I was trying to convey. The frustration doesn't come from over estimating their abilities or whatnot. Just everything around that. (Making sense? I hope so.)

You're silly

 

[own8ge]

You're silly

True. But what's your point?

 

[Tony3d]

True. But what's your point?

Well, there is no point, it doesn't matter to me if you are frustrated or not. I am just stating that you are simply the cause of your own frustration, and your inability to look at people for the interesting and magnificant anomily that they are is simply silly and childish in my eyes.

But hey, whatever floats your goat.

 

[redbaron]

I hope English isn't your native language.

 

[pjoa09]

But hey, whatever floats your goat.

Not trying to get at you, but holy fuck that was a good laugh.

 

[Tony3d]

Not trying to get at you, but holy fuck that was a good laugh.

Goats do in fact float, try it some time.

 

[koan]

People are simply what they are, if you don't like that, then it is your expectations of them that is stupid, not the people themselves.

If I put bread into a toaster and expect to get scrambled eggs as a result, then I am the stupid one, not the toaster.

Have you ever put eggs in a toaster and tried shaking it while it heats?
I haven't. I'm just curious if it turns out any better.

Haven't seen flying goats but there's a picture book on flying frogs that rocks.
http://www.hmhbooks.com/authors/wiesner/books/books_tues.shtml

 

[own8ge]

I AM So stupid! I mean, if I can't even understand myself. How stupid must I be? And how can I know what I can trust? How can I then ever know, what the actuality now actually is?!
I just don't know who to trust anymore. I'm in an infinite Debate between the extern and myself. Whereas my only goal is to better my judgement towards knowing who and what to trust. (Even how I will be interpreted is on a lower priority)

So stupid am I. God.
Please help me understand.

---
And who am I, to trust my god damn intuition. I hate my personality.

 

[Cognisant]

I AM So stupid! I mean, if I can't even understand myself. How stupid must I be?

Self perception is inherently biased, there's probably some Buddhist/Zen proverbs I can quote but suffice to say it's best not to dwell upon one's proverbial reflection, the feedback loop will only drive you mad.

 

[Solitaire U.]

Thanks for your honesty, I suppose.
You are a little quick on the conclusions I'd say.
Going from that, I'd add that you have been adjusting yourself to "the society"; Following the rules at school, and staying in line. Just so you could graduate.

But that just is, to draw conclusions. Just saying, to draw conclusions.

Never graduated high school. In fact, you've got me completely backwards, but that's not surprising.

What I actually am is an aftermarket certified ESL instructor. Hence, (and as I've been told) I'm rather adept at picking up nuances of personality in people's writing. I was indeed being completely honest, but I really only repeated what you yourself admitted in your OP.

I reiterate, no personal issues about that whatsoever. I was merely implying a friendly advisement that attitudes such as you might tend to display might tend to equate to short posting lifespans on this and other forums.

 

[Tony3d]

I AM So stupid! I mean, if I can't even understand myself. How stupid must I be? And how can I know what I can trust? How can I then ever know, what the actuality now actually is?!
I just don't know who to trust anymore. I'm in an infinite Debate between the extern and myself. Whereas my only goal is to better my judgement towards knowing who and what to trust. (Even how I will be interpreted is on a lower priority)

So stupid am I. God.
Please help me understand.

---
And who am I, to trust my god damn intuition. I hate my personality.

Start off by not being so judgmental of yourself and others.

 

[Latte]

I AM So stupid! I mean, if I can't even understand myself. How stupid must I be? And how can I know what I can trust? How can I then ever know, what the actuality now actually is?!
I just don't know who to trust anymore. I'm in an infinite Debate between the extern and myself. Whereas my only goal is to better my judgement towards knowing who and what to trust. (Even how I will be interpreted is on a lower priority)

So stupid am I. God.
Please help me understand.

---
And who am I, to trust my god damn intuition. I hate my personality.

Every time we kiss, I feel the drifting ambiance of your soul

 

[own8ge]

Well, there is no point, it doesn't matter to me if you are frustrated or not. I am just stating that you are simply the cause of your own frustration, and your inability to look at people for the interesting and magnificant anomily that they are is simply silly and childish in my eyes.

But hey, whatever floats your goat.

I do have to note, that you take the frustration I meant, in a total wrong direction. (Not saying it's your fault, as it would be mine.) Frustration is a product of stress that can occur by the inability to control. (Or at least, that's a subjective definition of it) So in that sentence it is my fault, but that doesn't mean that it's not legitimate for me to want to control it. Specially if the matter affects me, or even limit my "soul".

-Inb4 how you perceive inabilities in life, is your own choice.
Sure it is, but that doesn't mean you may not have principles.

I hope English isn't your native language.

I hope so as well

Start off by not being so judgmental of yourself and others.

lol. Whatever your intentions may have been, I hope you understand that it makes no sense what you just said. (Ok, perhaps it does make sense as you were referring to what you know of me. But do note, that its highly probable, that nothing of what you seem to know. Is the actual truth. As everything I've said is not a reflection of me but a chosen perception of me) (And that doesn't change the fact you're being a total hypocrite, IMHO...)

Never graduated high school. In fact, you've got me completely backwards, but that's not surprising.

What I actually am is an aftermarket certified ESL instructor. Hence, (and as I've been told) I'm rather adept at picking up nuances of personality in people's writing. I was indeed being completely honest, but I really only repeated what you yourself admitted in your OP.

I reiterate, no personal issues about that whatsoever. I was merely implying a friendly advisement that attitudes such as you might tend to display might tend to equate to short posting lifespans on this and other forums.

The post you are replying to now, was nothing more then to reveal the hypocrite in you. I still love you though

Every time we kiss, I feel the drifting ambiance of your soul

Even though I don't know how to place this or what you actually mean. But it does make me, want to love you.

Self perception is inherently biased, there's probably some Buddhist/Zen proverbs I can quote but suffice to say it's best not to dwell upon one's proverbial reflection, the feedback loop will only drive you mad.

That makes sense, you are highly appreciated.

 

[Tony3d]

lol. Whatever your intentions may have been, I hope you understand that it makes no sense what you just said. (Ok, perhaps it does make sense as you were referring to what you know of me. But do note, that its highly probable, that nothing of what you seem to know. Is the actual truth. As everything I've said is not a reflection of me but a chosen perception of me) (And that doesn't change the fact you're being a total hypocrite, IMHO...)

You said that you don't understand yourself and that you don't know who or what to trust.

So in order to help yourself overcome it, you need to stop being so judgemental and just take things for what they are.

It is not a matter of making judgements being inherently wrong, I judge people and things all the time, I have the right to and so do you. But, in your particular instance that you have put before me, I think you would be benificial for you to withhold your judgement of people.

And just to be clear, the frustration I refer to is this part of your original post.

I get frustrated with human beings their simplicity. In general their judgement sucks and they make no sense or don't make a point. They also jump to conclusion of which I think: "Can't you just THINK?!". It makes me frustrated because I can do nothing but ignore this frustration, if I would help the other by explaining his nonsense they consider me arrogant, aloof, hateful or rebellious.

So hypocritical or not, I think that it is healthy for me to judge people and not so healthy for you to judge people simply based on the stress that other humans create for you (or so it seems from what little information you have presented to me).

I personaly am fascinated by humans and respect them for being complex.

You are in fact wrong when you talk about their simplicity.

The more crazy stuff I see people do, the more uncontrolable, unpredictable the people around me are, the more of a challenge I get when I start putting those behaviors into systems inside my own head and trying to understand it. I like a challenge, thefore I like people.

Me judgeing them is simply part of how I read the data presented to me and organize it into logical systems inside of my head. My judgment is not one of stress of frustration, but one of observation and logic, and one that brings much peace and happiness to my brain.

 

[pjoa09]

Y U NO PUT CUSTOM USERNAME TOO?

I don't understand the fuss.

It's a teenager that found a computer and liked it better than T.V .

 

[own8ge]

Y U NO PUT CUSTOM USERNAME TOO?

I don't understand the fuss.

It's a teenager that found a computer and liked it better than T.V .

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You said that you don't understand yourself and that you don't know who or what to trust.

So in order to help yourself overcome it, you need to stop being so judgemental and just take things for what they are.

It is not a matter of making judgements being inherently wrong, I judge people and things all the time, I have the right to and so do you. But, in your particular instance that you have put before me, I think you would be benificial for you to withhold your judgement of people.

And just to be clear, the frustration I refer to is this part of your original post.




So hypocritical or not, I think that it is healthy for me to judge people and not so healthy for you to judge people simply based on the stress that other humans create for you (or so it seems from what little information you have presented to me).

I personaly am fascinated by humans and respect them for being complex.

You are in fact wrong when you talk about their simplicity.

The more crazy stuff I see people do, the more uncontrolable, unpredictable the people around me are, the more of a challenge I get when I start putting those behaviors into systems inside my own head and trying to understand it. I like a challenge, thefore I like people.

Me judgeing them is simply part of how I read the data presented to me and organize it into logical systems inside of my head. My judgment is not one of stress of frustration, but one of observation and logic, and one that brings much peace and happiness to my brain.

I could "Diss" you, and you could most probably Diss me as well. But before this turns into an endless discussion. Lets just agree we are both right..? EDIT: I love you.

 

[Tony3d]

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I could "Diss" you, and you could most probably Diss me as well. But before this turns into an endless discussion. Lets just agree we are both right..? EDIT: I love you.

I am not about to agree that you are right... that would go against my inner logic.

But if you don't wish to continue this discussion, then I can definatly agree to that.

 

[own8ge]

I am not about to agree that you are right... that would go against my inner logic.

But if you don't wish to continue this discussion, then I can definitely agree to that.

It's not whether or not you agree with your inner logic, but your judgement. One must know, he himself is only right in specific circumstances (The variables that have been chosen to make judgement on). Our discussion would eventually end up something as "Yes you are right, but you should have written it different." Or "I don't agree with your definition of ...., but in that case, I do agree with you".
We would probably be both just as right, and even agree with each other.
Be able to doublethink and I will love you even more.

But sure, I'm always open for discussion. But I think it will eventually breaks down to my hypothesis.

 

[Tony3d]

It's not whether or not you agree with your inner logic, but your judgement. One must know, he himself is only right in specific circumstances (The variables that have been chosen to make judgement on). Our discussion would eventually end up something as "Yes you are right, but you should have written it different." Or "I don't agree with your definition of ...., but in that case, I do agree with you".
We would probably be both just as right, and even agree with each other.
Be able to doublethink and I will love you even more.

But sure, I'm always open for discussion. But I think it will eventually breaks down to my hypothesis.

I can only judge based on the context you have given me.

If the context is not as it seems, that doesn't change the validity of my logic.