a bus problem

[Helvete]

Question: how do you catch a bus when it's dark, in the middle of nowhere? (provided there's a bus stop)

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

how do you get to the middle of nowhere in the first place?

 

[Pyropyro]

It's probably better to find a safe place to spend the night. Who knows what's hiding in the darkness.

 

[redbaron]

Spread your arms wide and stand in front of it. You'll probably die, but at least you caught it!

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

Who knows what's hiding in the darkness.

i am.

 

[redbaron]

Aren't you made of cats? That's not scary at all. Darkness sounds cuddly when you put it like that.

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

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[Pyropyro]

Note to self: Bring catnip at all times. In case of PNB attack, throw catnip at PNB to distract them and then run away.

 

[Base groove]

It's perfectly normal for cat-beasts to not respond to catnip as well.

 

[Rook]

You have to get the bus driver's attention.
Flashing is a good strategy, and has aided many in times of peril.

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

Note to self: Bring catnip at all times. In case of PNB attack, throw catnip at PNB to distract them and then run away.

better bring along a stash of other fine herb(s) just in case cat-nip isn't strong enough to subdue the pnbs.

Flashing is a good strategy.

sooo true.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Provided there will be a bus coming, find a source of light, throw something at the front window, scream, block the road with stuff and boulders, trees, etc.

In many cases you are better off finding a safe place to rest until the sunrise.

 

[Variform]

Yeah great, the bus crashes and you get nowhere. The trick is to catch a bus, not kill it.

As for being alone in the dark...how awesome would it be if you were a psycho with a long knife in your pocket and someone started messing with you. The fun you could have.

You? Attack ME?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlnoa67MUJU

 

[Hawkeye]

If there is a bus stop, you stand by it and wait for a bus.

 

[Variform]

I love how precise that is.

 

[Hawkeye]

I love how precise that is.

Touché

 

[Helvete]

how do you get to the middle of nowhere in the first place?

Any mode of transport available to you. If you break up the word nowhere you get now here, so surely nowhere is any location you happen to be in?

It's probably better to find a safe place to spend the night. Who knows what's hiding in the darkness.

Who knows if anywhere's really safe? What if there's no safe place?

Spread your arms wide and stand in front of it. You'll probably die, but at least you caught it!

Fool.

You have to get the bus driver's attention.
Flashing is a good strategy, and has aided many in times of peril.

Flashing? Peril? What kind? Is getting the driver's attention always enough though?

better bring along a stash of other fine herb(s) just in case cat-nip isn't strong enough to subdue the pnbs.



sooo true.

I hope you'll share these 'other fine herb(s)' when you get them

Provided there will be a bus coming, find a source of light, throw something at the front window, scream, block the road with stuff and boulders, trees, etc.

In many cases you are better off finding a safe place to rest until the sunrise.

Sound advice, I haven't tried this one yet, I'll be sure to test it later on. As I said earlier, where's really safe?

Yeah great, the bus crashes and you get nowhere. The trick is to catch a bus, not kill it.

As for being alone in the dark...how awesome would it be if you were a psycho with a long knife in your pocket and someone started messing with you. The fun you could have.

You? Attack ME?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlnoa67MUJU

How do you do catch a bus without killing it or yourself? As some particularly insightful posters have suggested.

If there is a bus stop, you stand by it and wait for a bus.

I like your simplicity but it sounds too good to be true.

I love how precise that is.

Is precision always correct?

@ all: If it's dark and you're by a bus stop that could be relatively unknown by the average human in a twisted and evil village, how do you catch a bus after the driver has cast a curse of neglect on you?

 

[Hawkeye]

If you wait long enough, you'll be eventually be granted access to the ネコバス

Unfortunately, your life will never be the same after the journey.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Yeah great, the bus crashes and you get nowhere. The trick is to catch a bus, not kill it.

Who said that? If you like getting on the bus and/or getting somewhere don't use your imagination, or set some rules for yourself so that you are safe.

Why would a bus crash into a clearly visible roadblock?
It is a good test for the driver's quality, or the quality of his remains.

If you wait long enough, you'll be eventually be granted access to the ネコバス

Unfortunately, your life will never be the same after the journey.

Totoro would be a life-altering experience most likely.

 

[TimeAsylums]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZAt7t2aTCA

 

[Pyropyro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZAt7t2aTCA

Helvete what have you gotten yourself into?

 

[Helvete]

Helvete what have you gotten yourself into?

So you wait at the stop a few mins early, already anticipating the bus will be late, as usual. Bus turns up 20 mins late, you see it coming and step slightly in the road to flag it down. Then either the driver didn't see me and I'm lucky to be alive or I was plain ignored. Not in quite the same boat as poor spongebob there, plus got a lift home after about 45 mins waiting -.- ... But the prick just left me stranded in the middle of fucking nowhere.

I'v already made a complaint to the company and told them I had to pay 40 pounds for a taxi. Recompense should come I think.

 

[Absurdity]

Don't be a peasant and get a car.

 

[Helvete]

Don't be a peasant and get a car.

I'm a peasant in a monetary sense but over 90% of my income is disposable so I could easily get a car. unfortunately I don't have time to learn so in the meantime I'm a bus-wanker.

 

[Helvete]

Ok so it happened again, like literally exactly the same thing happened: Same time, place, day and almost definitely the same driver... Time to demand some money from this company I think to compensate me for leaving me stranded, after purchasing a return ticket, forcing me to spend on a taxi. From the last time it happened I complained and received a letter of apology saying it would also give the driver in question a disciplinary. Clearly this hasn't happened.
So I'll demand payment for both taxi's, a refund of fares spent which will come to around £85, but I'm going to try rounding it up to £100.

I can only see what happens I guess.

 

[Red myst]

Did you do anything differently from the first time? Follow any of Blarrraun's advice?
You know the quote about doing the same thing over and expecting different results right? Perhaps the driver was reprimanded, which is why he did it again?
What I don't understand is why you would lay your travel needs in the trust of public transportation. You said you have enough money to buy a car. And waiting on transportation waist a lot of time anyway, so why don't you learn how to drive? You would be educating yourself, adding to your toolbox of skills. It would make you more versatile, give you more options, flexibility, and mobile freedom. I feel handicapped without an automobile. Sure I can always get around, I can take cabs, buses, trains, bum rides, carpool, etc...... But I feel stifled and dependent in those situations. I like picking up and leaving where and when I please, and going where I want to go whenever I want. I never have anyone else to blame for not getting where I need to be. I am responsible for myself, not laying the responsibility on anyone else. If my car breaks, I am responsible for fixing it, no one else.

 

[Helvete]

Did you do anything differently from the first time? Follow any of Blarrraun's advice?
You know the quote about doing the same thing over and expecting different results right? Perhaps the driver was reprimanded, which is why he did it again?
What I don't understand is why you would lay your travel needs in the trust of public transportation. You said you have enough money to buy a car. And waiting on transportation waist a lot of time anyway, so why don't you learn how to drive? You would be educating yourself, adding to your toolbox of skills. It would make you more versatile, give you more options, flexibility, and mobile freedom. I feel handicapped without an automobile. Sure I can always get around, I can take cabs, buses, trains, bum rides, carpool, etc...... But I feel stifled and dependent in those situations. I like picking up and leaving where and when I please, and going where I want to go whenever I want. I never have anyone else to blame for not getting where I need to be. I am responsible for myself, not laying the responsibility on anyone else. If my car breaks, I am responsible for fixing it, no one else.

No, nothing was different apart from the bus was only 3 mins late this time as opposed to 20.
I do know what saying you're referring too and I didn't follow Blarraun's advice; I would need to take half a day off work to cut a tree down for that, it wouldn't be worth it.
What you say makes a lot of sense and are conclusions I have already come to. But what of the people who cannot learn to drive for whatever reasons? then there is a need for reliable public transport services.

FYI I am learning to drive now, I am 5 lessons in and have my theory complete, but the process isn't instantaneous so in the meantime I am still having to wait on this appalling service.

 

[Red myst]

But what of the people who cannot learn to drive for whatever reasons? then there is a need for reliable public transport services.

There is a place for mass transit where it makes sense to do so. I don't support the idea that it must be in place for people who cannot learn to drive. But if it is an integral part of the city infrastructure, then it should be well run and maintained.

FYI I am learning to drive now, I am 5 lessons in and have my theory complete, but the process isn't instantaneous so in the meantime I am still having to wait on this appalling service.

Nice. Now you can chase that bus driver down and give him a piece of your mind!!!

 

[Helvete]

There is a place for mass transit where it makes sense to do so. I don't support the idea that it must be in place for people who cannot learn to drive. But if it is an integral part of the city infrastructure, then it should be well run and maintained.

Ok so what of disabled people who do not live in a city?

Nice. Now you can chase that bus driver down and give him a piece of your mind!!!

I'm not interested in speaking with that low life piece of turd. I would much rather have my recompense and have the driver removed.
Although the latter could be a longshot.

 

[Red myst]

Ok so what of disabled people who do not live in a city?

The short answer is, they should move to the city.

 

[Helvete]

The short answer is, they should move to the city.

Funny. Not really a viable option though.

 

[deadpixel]

Question: how do you catch a bus when it's dark, in the middle of nowhere? (provided there's a bus stop)

Where I live buses run on a schedule, usually a bus will come for each route at least 3 times an hour. If it were me I would see what time the next one is coming and when I see it coming down the road I would pull my cell phone out and flag it down with the phones LCD backlight or perhaps camera flash if your phone has one.

 

[Cavallier]

Perhaps this is plebeian of me but have you considered standing there waving money in the air when the bus comes by?

Then give the guy your ticket and put your money away.

 

[Cavallier]

There is a place for mass transit where it makes sense to do so. I don't support the idea that it must be in place for people who cannot learn to drive. But if it is an integral part of the city infrastructure, then it should be well run and maintained.


Nice. Now you can chase that bus driver down and give him a piece of your mind!!!

The short answer is, they should move to the city.

Ouch. Gasoline/petrol costs money. It's class exclusive to not provide some kind of alternate form of transportation. I don't expect there to be a full service bus station on every corner but there should be some kind of link between each town big enough to have a post office. Otherwise it's a cruel society that does not allow options for the poorer classes.

 

[Red myst]

Ouch. Gasoline/petrol costs money. It's class exclusive to not provide some kind of alternate form of transportation. I don't expect there to be a full service bus station on every corner but there should be some kind of link between each town big enough to have a post office. Otherwise it's a cruel society that does not allow options for the poorer classes.

Perhaps I should have said that they should situate them selves strategically nearby mass transit routs. Not necessarily in the city. The point I was trying to infer with my statement is that I don't think it is societies responsibility to accommodate individuals who choose to live in isolated areas. There has to be a reasonable need for the service. Gas\Petrol cost money. I am not basing my statements on the poorer class. If there is a sufficient population of people of any class to warrant the service I think it makes sense. I don't think I said anything that is discriminatory of a particular class of people. Well..... except maybe the ones that can't learn how to drive for what ever reason.

 

[Cavallier]

Perhaps I should have said that they should situate them selves strategically nearby mass transit routs. Not necessarily in the city. The point I was trying to infer with my statement is that I don't think it is societies responsibility to accommodate individuals who choose to live in isolated areas. There has to be a reasonable need for the service. Gas\Petrol cost money. I am not basing my statements on the poorer class. If there is a sufficient population of people of any class to warrant the service I think it makes sense. I don't think I said anything that is discriminatory of a particular class of people. Well..... except maybe the ones that can't learn how to drive for what ever reason.

Got it. I figure riding a bicycle to the closest bus station and then riding from there is good enough. You and sexy Spock are persuasive indeed.

 

[Red myst]

I figured we were in agreement. And that is COOL Spock, I think SEXY Spock is in that alternate universe.

 

[Helvete]

Perhaps this is plebeian of me but have you considered standing there waving money in the air when the bus comes by?

Then give the guy your ticket and put your money away.

Hmm I can't see how waving money at a guy who probably gets paid by the hour, or even less appealing on a salary would make it any more likely for them to stop. For this to have any real effect surely you have to wave money at an employer/owner rather than an employee?

Ouch. Gasoline/petrol costs money. It's class exclusive to not provide some kind of alternate form of transportation. I don't expect there to be a full service bus station on every corner but there should be some kind of link between each town big enough to have a post office. Otherwise it's a cruel society that does not allow options for the poorer classes.

I agree about the frequency of transportation if not there should be slightly more. I disagree with it having anything to do with class though, as from where I'm from anyway there's little difference in money between driving your own car and using public transport. I suppose you could argue that some couldn't afford the initial costs of having a car...

Perhaps I should have said that they should situate them selves strategically nearby mass transit routs. Not necessarily in the city. The point I was trying to infer with my statement is that I don't think it is societies responsibility to accommodate individuals who choose to live in isolated areas. There has to be a reasonable need for the service. Gas\Petrol cost money. I am not basing my statements on the poorer class. If there is a sufficient population of people of any class to warrant the service I think it makes sense. I don't think I said anything that is discriminatory of a particular class of people. Well..... except maybe the ones that can't learn how to drive for what ever reason.

I am not really sure what you mean by isolated places? As I don't see rural places as isolate; they have a smaller population spread across a bigger area compared to most cities but I can't see them as being isolated.
For example a typical bus route in the UK would start off in a city/town and would end up in another city/town, stopping through lots of small villages, hamlets and sometimes places of specific interest; Farms, science parks etc.

 

[Red myst]

Hmm I can't see how waving money at a guy who probably gets paid by the hour, or even less appealing on a salary would make it any more likely for them to stop. For this to have any real effect surely you have to wave money at an employer/owner rather than an employee?



I agree about the frequency of transportation if not there should be slightly more. I disagree with it having anything to do with class though, as from where I'm from anyway there's little difference in money between driving your own car and using public transport. I suppose you could argue that some couldn't afford the initial costs of having a car...



I am not really sure what you mean by isolated places? As I don't see rural places as isolate; they have a smaller population spread across a bigger area compared to most cities but I can't see them as being isolated.
For example a typical bus route in the UK would start off in a city/town and would end up in another city/town, stopping through lots of small villages, hamlets and sometimes places of specific interest; Farms, science parks etc.

Here is an article on just what we are talking about. I feel for the people who lose something they have become accustomed to, but I don't think transportation companies should be forced to carry unprofitable routs. I also think smaller more efficient companies will take up some of the slack here. http://articles.philly.com/1986-10-15/news/26062057_1_bus-service-new-bus-routes-trailways-bus

 

[Helvete]

Here is an article on just what we are talking about. I feel for the people who lose something they have become accustomed to, but I don't think transportation companies should be forced to carry unprofitable routs. I also think smaller more efficient companies will take up some of the slack here. http://articles.philly.com/1986-10-15/news/26062057_1_bus-service-new-bus-routes-trailways-bus

Well at the end of the day it's a business providing a service for profit and nothing that they do is mandatory. So to cut a route in favour of profit us an easy decision for a business to make. Which begs the question, especially from the public/consumers view: why are these services privatised? They aren't really out to help you, as is clearly seen, they just out for profit.this is arguably a different debate though as it's so easily generalised into other areas, for example the privatised health service...

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[TheManBeyond]

Ph´nglui mglw´nafh Cthulhu R´lyeh wgah´nagl fhtagn

 

[Helvete]

Ph´nglui mglw´nafh Cthulhu R´lyeh wgah´nagl fhtagn

Explain yourself.

 

[Red myst]

Well at the end of the day it's a business providing a service for profit and nothing that they do is mandatory. So to cut a route in favour of profit us an easy decision for a business to make. Which begs the question, especially from the public/consumers view: why are these services privatised? They aren't really out to help you, as is clearly seen, they just out for profit.this is arguably a different debate though as it's so easily generalised into other areas, for example the privatised health service...

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I have some experience with government interaction in the transportation industry. I was just entering the aviation industry at the time the airlines were being deregulated. They were being deregulated in part because airline tickets were very expensive. The airlines were mandated to fly certain routes. Many of these flights would leave the airport with only 3 or 4 people on a regular basis. The other flights that were full had to pay for the empty ones and the airlines were in a strangle hold from regulation. When regulation was removed, the airlines dumped the money loosing routes and was able to drastically lower fairs for everyone. Many people who could never afford to fly could now do so. The airlines were able to become more profitable through efficiency. As another benefit to myself, because the major airlines dumped so many flights out of my local airport, a new commuter service was born. It was my first job, and we started out with 4 mechanics and 3 commuter aircraft. It grew to a total of 12 aircraft and about 18 service technicians, let alone flight crew, gate workers and ticket counter workers. To me, this is now it is supposed to work. The governments' role here is to maintain safety standards. Not dictate how you should run your business. And if it was not efficient for a private company to maintain particular transportation routes, how can the government do it any better? Airline profit margins are slim as it is. So then to me the question is weather it is acceptable for the government to use public funds to perpetuate an inefficient endeavor because it believes that everyone should have access to air transportation.

 

[Helvete]

I have some experience with government interaction in the transportation industry. I was just entering the aviation industry at the time the airlines were being deregulated. They were being deregulated in part because airline tickets were very expensive. The airlines were mandated to fly certain routes. Many of these flights would leave the airport with only 3 or 4 people on a regular basis. The other flights that were full had to pay for the empty ones and the airlines were in a strangle hold from regulation. When regulation was removed, the airlines dumped the money loosing routes and was able to drastically lower fairs for everyone. Many people who could never afford to fly could now do so. The airlines were able to become more profitable through efficiency. As another benefit to myself, because the major airlines dumped so many flights out of my local airport, a new commuter service was born. It was my first job, and we started out with 4 mechanics and 3 commuter aircraft. It grew to a total of 12 aircraft and about 18 service technicians, let alone flight crew, gate workers and ticket counter workers. To me, this is now it is supposed to work. The governments' role here is to maintain safety standards. Not dictate how you should run your business. And if it was not efficient for a private company to maintain particular transportation routes, how can the government do it any better? Airline profit margins are slim as it is. So then to me the question is weather it is acceptable for the government to use public funds to perpetuate an inefficient endeavor because it believes that everyone should have access to air transportation.

I agree that the government should be enforcing safety standards and not dictating where the airlines have to fly to. I also agree that if it was government run they shouldn't be throwing money into bad wind to uphold public fairness. I don't think there is anything unfair in a situation like this anyway, as everyone has access to the flights still going, then the redundant inefficient flights is where you'd ask yourself, is there a more efficient way to get to that destination apart from flying? Most people don't fly for the sake of flying, it's usually because of long distance journey where flying is the quickest, easiest option. I think all modes of transport should be based on efficiency as the aim is to get from point A to point B rather than providing a full blown luxury service from point A to point B.