INTPs you are stupid.

[Ink]

Own8age, why don't you go to the infj boards? Also, I have a higher IQ than you (tested by a psychologist, G) that means I am smarter than you right?

 

[own8ge]

So that 131 counts? Ok, you lose

Now give me your candies!!

It doesn't count. But you are taking it out of context.
The person I directed that message to was making a 'concrete perceptive' (S) argument about intelligence. I merely defied his argument by going down that same weak and silly road to exploit his nonsense.

You arguing IQ doesn't count, is to say Concrete perceptive arguments don't count. So we actually are at the same side.
But then why say: "You lose"? Now that, doesn't make sense to me.

 

[own8ge]

Are you implying that someone with an 131 IQ can't be pseudointellectual.
I myself have a relatively high IQ and suffer form small batches of pseudointelletuallness myself.

Clever remark. (But no, that is not what I was implying)
He argued that he couldn't interpret my post because it is full of: "pseudointellectual bullshit." IMO: No1 is mighty enough to make such judgments. Why? Because if you don't understand something, then how can you possibly make statemented closed judgment? (It is hypocritical innit?)

I.e. John doesn't know what apples are. John points at an apple and says: "I don't know what this object is because it is unhealthy". (This is how much sense his post made to me)

 

[own8ge]

I have a higher IQ than you (tested by a psychologist, G) that means I am smarter than you right?

For the sake of joy, I'll take you serious.
If I was telling the truth about my IQ. And if in your opinion IQ objectively measures intelligence. Then sure, you are smarter than me.
But I would strongly suggest IQ to be full of shit and I doubt you would disagree with me.

Own8age, why don't you go to the infj boards?

(For me) Most of them are to much influenced by emotions. On INFJ boards you constantly have to be exaggeratedly nice and they will refuse logic because they don't feel like it. I am a strong thinker myself, I get pleasure from people who play hardball.

 

[Ink]

Do you like any type? Do you like the INFJs on the INFJ boards? If you dislike us so much, why are you here?

 

[own8ge]

Do you like any type? Do you like the INFJs on the INFJ boards? If you dislike us so much, why are you here?

I like everyone. And I don't dislike you.
(I would only dislike a person for the sake of argument, nothing more nor personal)

 

[Ink]

(For me) Most of them are to much influenced by emotions. On INFJ boards you constantly have to be exaggeratedly nice and they will refuse logic because they don't feel like it. I am a strong thinker myself, I get pleasure from people who play hardball.

Would you say you use less Fe than most INFJs? What would you say about articles like this: http://www.personalitypage.com/html/INFJ_per.html

that says using Fe is part of growth for INFJs?

 

[own8ge]

Would you say you use less Fe than most INFJs? What would you say about articles like this: http://www.personalitypage.com/html/INFJ_per.html

that says using Fe is part of growth for INFJs?

Thanks but no. It doesn't apply to my reason for not wanting to be on INFJ boards. Besides, there is a difference between using the function Fe and hiding behind the function Fe.

 

[InvisibleJim]

Own8age, why don't you go to the infj boards? Also, I have a higher IQ than you (tested by a psychologist, G) that means I am smarter than you right?

That's the last place you want to go for reasonable discussion.

 

[Etheri]

I think we are stupid, but not for the reasons stated.
Then yet again, you have a decent argument.

Is it the reader's task to understand what they're reading, or the writers task to make what he writes understandable? I'm fairly certain it's both?

Then yet again, I might just be rambling offtopic, not having a clue what you really meant to say.

 

[SpaceYeti]

So you wanna play the concrete perception ball, I can play do. I can do that...
My IQ is 131, so you're argument is simply invalid.
There is no link between dyslexia and intelligence. Try again, fool.

Oh shit, son! Your IQ's high! Everybody bow to the prince of INTPs, and cease thine laughing at him. He's no typical dick, he's a royal dick. Show some respect!

 

[Etheri]

On an entirely unrelated sidenote.

I thought INTPs didn't have, or atleast didn't publically display their emotions.
Considering the ammount of mindless and unnecessary mudthrowing in here, I assume we could consider this thread a rare gem, filled with valuable INTP emotions...

Spoiler

(If this post is considered spam, among the other spam, then just remove it.
I'm sorry.)

 

[Jennywocky]

Lol. Drama.

Ps. My IQ's in the 140's and there are others here with higher, I'm sure. Who cares? Someone can be smart while still being stupid.

 

[own8ge]

Lol. Drama.

Ps. My IQ's in the 140's and there are others here with higher, I'm sure. Who cares? Someone can be smart while still being stupid.

I don't think you understood the context of IQ do you? It was purely argumentative (as I explained in previous posts aswell)

 

[own8ge]

Oh shit, son! Your IQ's high! Everybody bow to the prince of INTPs, and cease thine laughing at him. He's no typical dick, he's a royal dick. Show some respect!

You also?! It wasn't a statement, it was an argument. (as I've explained already)

 

[MichiganJFrog]

we could consider this thread a rare gem, filled with valuable INTP emotions...

of the unresolved kind

 

[TheScornedReflex]

This post will account for 90 percent of the people on this forum.
A lot of miscommunication takes place whenever I post something on this forum. A typical INTP prejudgment would be that I either am stupid, can't make sense or am mentally ill. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

This is my thesis.
You can't interpret my posts as I intended them to be interpreted, thus you assume a prejudgment and reason this with adaptiveness (Pness). (Adaptive/P is the combination of Pe and Ji.) Which could be considered rational, but the irrational part is that you then take confidence in your stance thus actually believing it (until proven else) whilst you don't reflect it with the live subject you are judging (Je)! How could this be justified?! To a rational mind, it couldn't.

So: You blame the environment rather than yourself for your lack of understanding. Then you strongly defend your made up judgment without reflecting it with environment to test it's reliability. Instead, you back up your argument by observing that others came to the same judgment as you did.

Oh god you are stupid.

This makes sense.. If you think about it. If we don't find enough information from an outside source we will make an assumption based off the data that is given. Then when others reach the same conclusion its icing on the cake. We may not understand what was meant but we will blame the environment (being the source of information or lack of in some cases) for our misunderstanding. As it is the source of our misunderstanding. But once more information comes to us, we will revise and hopefully understand the true meaning behind something.

A rather astute observation @own8ge.

And yes if there is a god he is stupid


... Unless I am wrong in which case... YOUR FAULT, FUCK YOU!!!

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

So you wanna (I spell it this way a lot, too, but if you're trying to assert your intellectual dominance, spelling "want to" out would probably be more prudent.) play the concrete perception ball, I can play do (too*). I can do that...
My IQ is 131, so you're (your*) argument is simply invalid.
There is no link between dyslexia and intelligence. Try again, fool.

Also the fact that you have a (what I'm assuming is) high IQ really has little to do with the problem you seem to have. So-called "smart" people are just as capable of being asses as them stoopid folk.

And you, sir...

... are an ass.

 

[Duxwing]

The only true way to be wrong is always insist that you are right all the time.

You may be right sometime but you will be wrong eventually its just a matter of time and statistics.

So that's why he spends so much time making sure that his decisions are right.

-Duxwing

 

[joal0503]

*proud of my own stupidity

 

[The Gopher]

Hey in a thread accusing people of being stupid I am more than happy to come in and be stupid!

Aw, poor thing. We just need to understand you better.



(I'm supposed to have become an INFP now.)

Same here! We can all group hug and everything will be ok! (but not really because we will never forget this and judge you based on it for all your days as it festers away in our minds never forgetting, never forgi... hold up what was I talking about?) Flowers!

 

[Jennywocky]

I don't think you understood the context of IQ do you? It was purely argumentative (as I explained in previous posts aswell)

I was on my cell phone, so probably not. But it looks like you're getting your ass pwned anyway, please don't waste more time on my off-hand comment when you've got other far more delightful things to address.

 

[Hawkeye]

Plot twist - people understand, but disagree

 

[own8ge]

Plot twist - people understand, but disagree

Yeah I had thought of that before aswell. I could never know... Perhaps that is true indeed. And am I too stupid to interpret it like that.

But neither could you know. Because how could you really know if you understand me? You can't. (Or can you? Are you perhaps not human? Maybe I'm a test subject in a laboratory and that this world doesn't exist but is nothing more than a lab-test)

This world confuses me so unbelievably much. It's very embarrassing if I would care about what others think of me. At this moment I'm very confused aswell. I don't even know the date, or let the external world sink in. I just do things, without knowing how that impacts other people or whatever. I feel so silly! But I can't change it. Idk... So what I do is act on impulses. Does that make me an egomaniac? Perhaps I am... How could I know?!

 

[walfin]

stupid (adj.)
1540s, "mentally slow," from Middle French stupide, from Latin stupidus "amazed, confounded," literally "struck senseless," from stupere "be stunned, amazed, confounded," from PIE *(s)tupe- "hit," from root *(s)teu- (see steep (adj.)).

Native words for this idea include negative compounds with words for "wise" (cf. Old English unwis, unsnotor, ungleaw), also dol (see dull), and dysig (see dizzy). Stupid retained its association with stupor and its overtones of "stunned by surprise, grief, etc." into mid-18c. The difference between stupid and the less opprobrious foolish roughly parallels that of German töricht vs. dumm but does not exist in most European languages.

I am struck senseless by how amazing this thread is.

 

[snafupants]

I just do things, without knowing how that impacts other people or whatever. I feel so silly! But I can't change it. Idk... So what I do is act on impulses. Does that make me an egomaniac? Perhaps I am... How could I know?!

That makes you a puppet, and a typical human.

 

[own8ge]

That makes you a puppet, and a typical human.

This is exactly what I mean. How would you know?
PERHAPS, you do this aswell and are ignorant over it, just like me.
Or do you really think that I am conscious over my ignorance and hypocrisy all the f.ing time?! No 1 is. No 1 on this planet is. Only fools pretend to be like that. So how dare you claim what kind of human I am? Or does that simply make you a fool? And if you continue this argument, maybe you are making an even bigger fool out of yourself? Because you think you know it all, and that you know precisely what kind of human you are, and you think that you know a lot about the subject at hand. But what if that in reality you know nothing about reality? You just think that you do..? What if you are that ignorant? How could you know? You couldn't. So stop judging other people! please.. I beg you.

 

[snafupants]

This is exactly what I mean. How would you know?
PERHAPS, you do this aswell and are ignorant over it, just like me.
Or do you really think that I am conscious over my ignorance and hypocrisy all the f.ing time?! No 1 is. No 1 on this planet is. Only fools pretend to be like that. So how dare you claim what kind of human I am?

The impulses you are acting out are DNA programs intended to perpetuate your pathetic ego, its agenda and the human species. Ergo, puppet.

 

[own8ge]

The impulses you are acting out are DNA programs intended to perpetuate your pathetic ego, its agenda and the human species. Ergo, puppet.

WOW I AM STUPID. I interpreted you totally wrong. This is what I mean. I am so stupid!!!

plot twist. Or are you to stupid, because you can't write it so that I can interpret it?

(BTW. I do not think my motives ever are my ego. My motives may be egocentric, but ego? i don't think so. Yet again: I couldn't know. Could I?)

 

[Hawkeye]

There is no way to know what you mean "exactly". However, with the correct use of language, many can get the general gist.

Even still, the use of language as text alone creates a lot of issues when concerning context. Text carries no emotion other than that picked up subjectively by the reader. This often leads to misinterpretation which can develop into pointless arguments (or amusing ones)

This problem still arises in vocal communication but not as often.

To summarise - you are a silly goose.

 

[UfarkTheRipe]

WOW I AM STUPID. I interpreted you totally wrong. This is what I mean. I am so stupid!!!

plot twist. Or are you to stupid, because you can't write it so that I can interpret it?

(BTW. I do not think my motives ever are my ego. My motives may be egocentric, but ego? i don't think so. Yet again: I couldn't know. Could I?)

Careful, Grumpypants, for snafupants is manipulating you.

Now THAT is a favour!

 

[own8ge]

Grumpypants for snafupants is

What the hell does that mean?

And in this context, who are you referring to as you?

 

[Hawkeye]

This is borderline Venture-ism. You are not quite there yet however; how I miss him so...

 

[UfarkTheRipe]

What the hell does that mean?

And in this context, who are you referring to as you?

Grumpypants= own8ge
you= Grumpypants

Careful, Grumpypants, for snafupants is manipulating you.

If the name is taken out of the the sentence, in English it is clear the subject of the sentence is 'you.' It could be written thus:

Careful, [I]because[/I] [URL="http://www.intpforum.com/member.php?u=3274"]snafupants[/URL] is manipulating you.

The earlier inclusion of 'Grumpypants' identified the subject of that statement as the OP and the OP is in fact snafupants' puppet.

 

[joal0503]

Careful, Grumpypants, for snafupants is manipulating you.

Now THAT is a favour!

id let snafupants manipulate me, any day of the week. even if he/she is a she-he

 

[own8ge]

Grumpypants= own8ge
you= Grumpypants



If the name is taken out of the the sentence, in English it is clear the subject of the sentence is 'you.' It could be written thus:

Careful, [I]because[/I] [URL="http://www.intpforum.com/member.php?u=3274"]snafupants[/URL] is manipulating you.

The earlier inclusion of 'Grumpypants' identified the subject of that statement as the OP and the OP is in fact snafupants' puppet.

Thanks! Your awareness is appreciated.
But you couldn't possible know whatever plays in my head and snafupants's head. So your statemented judgment is merely a proposition. An assumption you made from your perspective.
But yes, thank you for explaining me your perspective on the matter.

Perhaps you are even right. So thank you, for bringing your perspective to my attention. I appreciate it. I do.

 

[Synthetix]

This post will account for 90 percent of the people on this forum.
A lot of miscommunication takes place whenever I post something on this forum. A typical INTP prejudgment would be that I either am stupid, can't make sense or am mentally ill. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

This is my thesis.
You can't interpret my posts as I intended them to be interpreted, thus you assume a prejudgment and reason this with adaptiveness (Pness). (Adaptive/P is the combination of Pe and Ji.) Which could be considered rational, but the irrational part is that you then take confidence in your stance thus actually believing it (until proven else) whilst you don't reflect it with the live subject you are judging (Je)! How could this be justified?! To a rational mind, it couldn't.

So: You blame the environment rather than yourself for your lack of understanding. Then you strongly defend your made up judgment without reflecting it with environment to test it's reliability. Instead, you back up your argument by observing that others came to the same judgment as you did.

Oh god you are stupid.

What INTP peed in your Cheerios this morning?

 

[Philovitist]

So you wanna play the concrete perception ball, I can play do. I can do that...
My IQ is 131, so you're argument is simply invalid.
There is no link between dyslexia and intelligence. Try again, fool.

lol if you string random ideas together and call it a rebuttal, you might be a pseudointellectual.

 

[own8ge]

lol if you string random ideas together and call it a rebuttal, you might be a pseudointellectual.

WHAAAAAG. Why won't any1 ever understand the meaning of concrete perception?! Because if you did.. It would be obvious that it was purposeful ignorance. IN HIS context, the ignorant 'random ideas' I made, would be considered rational.
Which doesn't make any sense, because to think like that is foolish. THUS I think like that on purpose to exploit this. How hard can it be to understand?

(In this case, him/his = you)

 

[Philovitist]

Clever remark. (But no, that is not what I was implying)
He argued that he couldn't interpret my post because it is full of: "pseudointellectual bullshit." IMO: No1 is mighty enough to make such judgments. Why? Because if you don't understand something, then how can you possibly make statemented closed judgment? (It is hypocritical innit?)

I.e. John doesn't know what apples are. John points at an apple and says: "I don't know what this object is because it is unhealthy". (This is how much sense his post made to me)

This is better, and I'll take it seriously. However, it neither has anything to do with your IQ nor dyslexia. :/

I understand the semantics, dude, but the grand scheme, the argument you're making, makes no sense. It's pseudointellectual bullshit. You're misinterpreting my use of the word "interpret" to refer to concrete perception, but I'm talking about actually figuring out meaning. Which is the difference between perception and interpretation, donchaknow.

Keep trying, man. I'm rooting for you. But my reasons for thinking INTPs are terrible are better than yours.

 

[own8ge]

This is better, and I'll take it seriously. However, it neither has anything to do with your IQ nor dyslexia. :/

I understand the semantics, dude, but the grand scheme, the argument you're making, makes no sense. It's pseudointellectual bullshit. You're misinterpreting my use of the word "interpret" to refer to concrete perception, but I'm talking about actually figuring out meaning. Which is the difference between perception and interpretation, donchaknow.

Keep trying, man. I'm rooting for you. But my reasons for thinking INTPs are terrible are better than yours.

I'm not misinterpreting your use of the word interpret. Concrete perception is something completely different. You interpreted my post, to be 'pseudointellectual bullshit' because YOU didn't understand it. (This is what you had said yourself.) So you couldn't possibly have interpreted my post. So your judgment was based on concrete perception rather than interpretive perception. That is what I meant. ( I hope I'm making sense)

And because I think that to be unfair. I did the same in return. I went on and judged concrete perception, that in a concrete perceptive eye would be considered rational. And in his eyes, would be considered a fair argument.

 

[Hawkeye]

does this argument have a point other than "you can never understand what I mean"?

Because this point is moot.

 

[SpaceYeti]

You also?! It wasn't a statement, it was an argument. (as I've explained already)

Hell yeah, me also, Fuckfart. It was a stupid argument, Fuckfart. You're stupid, Fuckfart.

 

[Philovitist]

I'm not misinterpreting your use of the word interpret. Concrete perception is something completely different. You interpreted my post, to be 'pseudointellectual bullshit' because YOU didn't understand it. (This is what you had said yourself.) So you couldn't possibly have interpreted my post. So your judgment was based on concrete perception rather than interpretive perception. That is what I meant. ( I hope I'm making sense)

Have you considered the possibility that your post is just poorly written?

 

[own8ge]

Hell yeah, me also, Fuckfart. It was a stupid argument, Fuckfart. You're stupid, Fuckfart.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A STUPID ARGUMENT! THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE ARGUMENT ITSELF. How many times do I have to explain this? Or do you know this and are trolling me by pretending to be ignorant?

 

[own8ge]

Have you considered the possibility that your post is just poorly written?

I consider that every single moment when I'm writing something. So yeah, I consider that. And perhaps it's true. But isn't this is with all INFJs, we are Ni dominant so when we think we 'disable' Se as much as possible. I can't help it, can I?

But hey, Do you understand my post now? or do you mean to argue that all of my posts are poorly written?

 

[Philovitist]

It seems that the reverse trolling effort is going well. >_>

 

[Synthetix]

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A STUPID ARGUMENT! THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE ARGUMENT ITSELF. How many times do I have to explain this? Or do you know this and are trolling me by pretending to be ignorant?

A stupid person would understand a stupid argument. And you just admitted to making a stupid argument, which we didn't understand, so wouldn't that just make us smart for not understanding something stupid?

 

[own8ge]

A stupid person would understand a stupid argument. And you just admitted to making a stupid argument, which we didn't understand, so wouldn't that just make us smart for not understanding something stupid?

No, that's just wrongful thinking. lol.
Nice try though, I enjoyed the concept.

 

[TheScornedReflex]

I consider that every single moment when I'm writing something. So yeah, I consider that. And perhaps it's true. But isn't this is with all INFJs, we are Ni dominant so when we think we 'disable' Se as much as possible. I can't help it, can I?

But hey, Do you understand my post now? or do you mean to argue that all of my posts are poorly written?

You're looking for hidden meaning again @owna8ge. He was referring to your original post. And maybe some of your following posts. But you have begun to elaborate.