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i am a big person who loves art...i live sleep and think art every day. some times i find myself drawing people in my head and correcting things and making them look crazy.
is there other INTP people who do the same? maybe you write also? i love writing stories that may or may not have meaning to them that is just me....:D
 

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I draw a lot, mainly little doodles because I don't ever get the image in my head onto the paper properly, and then I get distracted too...

I do write (I actually managed to write 50,000 words of a book in a month for a challenge... it came out awful, but at least I wrote something, I guess?) but I mainly stick to shorter stories, one or two pages at the most.
 

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Yeah, definitely..
I write short stories (on my native tongue, of course; nobody would publish anything if I write in english:D). When I was 15, I actually wrote whole novel. I'm thinking of burning it; it's stupid as something can be..
Also like designing clothes.
 
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You could be INFP, Lindsay.
 

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Honestly I think art makes up for our lack of emotions, some of us anyways. I am a die hard musician, and i feel as if music is a way to express myself, and to make up for my lack of emotions. Weather it be some of my own, or someone else's, its how i can get rid of all the crazy things inside of me.
So if you consider music as art, which i think it is, then my answer is yes.
 

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My husband never goes anywhere without a sketchpad. He is definitely artsy. We are both photographers and graphic designers as well. I can't draw to save my life, but I enjoy writing. He's INTP, I'm INFP.
 

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i tend to find art useless. but that just me. i know a lot of other people here like art. if you love it then go far it. just dont get in my way of world conquest.
 

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music is my life. I write music, listen to music, play music. I can't draw, color, paint, or sculpt for anything but music counts right :D
 
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When I was 15, I actually wrote whole novel. I'm thinking of burning it; it's stupid as something can be..

No! If you ever become a famous writer, it is nice to have an old piece of writing to examine and reflect upon. It would have a unique sentiment value to it as well. The first novel would represent the 'first step' or 'beginning' towards a good goal that was possibly accomplished.
 

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Meh, I dislike the word art itself. It's too loaded, and too vague, and yet sometimes too limiting.... Everyone has their own definition for it, and they all assume they are talking about the same thing.... I'd rather use "creative work", which is much more wide in scope: it just specifies "the creation of something", and thus, I think it is better for my world-view in which there is no distinction between "practical things" and "art"; everything, life itself is an act of constant creation.

>>> has extensive amounts of sketchbooks, does photography, likes graphic design, and obsesses about industrial design and architecture. Also counts fashion as a guilty pleasure.

There is, in my opinion, two kinds of "creative work". One is creative work as an emotional vent, which is quite common. (It emerges from the emotions of the artist, and these emotions are sometimes readable and contagious to the observer). But there is also creative work as an intellectual device, which is much rarer (One can produce creative work, without having intense emotions in its origins. It is for the mind, borne out of thoughts, in an attempt to reinterpret them in some media to understand them better, or to provoke thoughts in others, instead of feelings). People can do and enjoy both of these kinds of creative work.. and it is important to realize which of these things artist was working for in order to understand the artwork.

I think that INTPs, having inferior Fe, will usually have strong attachments to one sort of "creative work" in an emotional manner; and yet, having primary Ti, will also have a strong intellectual "creative work" that they indulge in. Or maybe both congnitive functions tackle the same type of creative work simultaneously, with the strength of developed thinking and the rawness of underdeveloped feeling. So IMO not only can INTPs be "arts" people... but they can be damn good at it! Almost everybody here has confessed about practicing some sort of "art", be it visual, musical, or written.

For example, my drawings are intellectual, rarely are they emotional. They are visual thoughts, attempts to capture ideas about the physical world, to dissect them, selectively, or to diagrammatize a complex abstract concept, or as a step for understanding the full complexity of an object which does not exist yet. If people look at them in search for emotion, most would find them completely lacking... but they are, nevertheless, creative works.

On the other hand, my photography is much more emotional. It surges out of my desire to capture moments, scenes, places and the emotional associations they bring about my own life, knitting a web of feelings frozen into pictures. A lot of them might not be understood by most people, or at least not understood in the same interpretation as I have as creator; they're very personal. Still, through similar experiences, others might find a more common emotional ground.

It is important to note here that the distinction of intellectual vs emotional has nothing do with technical skill. It has to do with the source and intent of the creative impulse.

Of course, some people like to define art strictly as that which is emotional and not intellectual, so they might find my concepts of "creative work" as invalid...
 
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To back up the general opinion...

I'm a very artsy person (though mediocre in skill:p). I sketch, paint, sculpt, carve and occasionally write. Although I dont play much myself, spend about an hour a day listening to music. I've been into drawing for as long as I remember- before I could hold a pencil I staired at picture books for hours :D
 

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I record music. I haven't done it in a couple years and I don't show it to anyone, but I have about 2.5 full albums worth. I think I'm shit though so I quarantine it.
 

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Art is pretty much my life. See the art gallery thread. I also write on occasion, though it seems I lost my original touch with it.

yeah i do a lot like you i have entered a lot of my art in shows and got some money. but i like writing i just don't like other people reading what i write, i have published one thing and that was my ninth grade high school year lol...but other then that i like to draw all the time anything and everything that i can. my favorite artist are picasso, and bob ross, although they are both dead :( but yeah anyhow :)
 

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@ Tekton, I'd say it's possible to have emotionally charged work with a more intellectual theme. That's how I approach my work. I usually pursue more intellectual/psychological/social themes, but my emotions leak out on my art in the process. It's quite therapeutic.
 

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I think any type can create 'art' in some form. I could be wrong, though.

I create art/music to summarize ideas (giving layers of meaning to a piece of art) or to release festering emotions that I can't release effectively any other way.
I don't enjoy realist art because it lacks meaning. My infp friend said that the reason behind art was to make something aesthetically pleasing. I like surreal or 'ugly' art- something that can be seen in many ways, that can leave an imprint and keep you thinking.
Actually, I lie when I say I don't like realist art. I have a soft spot for landscapes- mostly wastelands, vast expanses of open land or cityscapes. They make me feel free.
 

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ermine, yeah you are right, when i draw i some times let what i am feeling slip into my art, my high school art teacher never loved that, he said if you can't draw my way you can't draw, then he told me he was tired of seeing the same old same old and that i would never get into SCAD but i did, yet i am not going yet but i am working my way up to it to prove him wrong.

my art is more based on hands and eyes, i have no idea why, i think its because that is the only thing that i ever pay attition to now days....?:D
 

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hmmm... artistic capabilities are not my strong point, however I do believe that a good fire is a wonderful work of art. before anyone goes onoz a pyro!!! all my fires are lit in my combustion stove or on my property in the form of a bonfire. One notion that rarely leaves my head is blowing stuff up, demolitions captivate me. As do car crashes and all forms of 'disasters'.

I believe it's something to do with seeing all the craftsmanship and quality destroy itself in a completely uncharacteristic manner. don't get me wrong, I love observing working mechanisms and looking for all the little signs of wear and tear on the components. So, lifes destructive mechanisms are a beautiful thing that adds a richness to the experience of seeing something sustain itself despite the wear and tear. but then again I might just want to try and find a pattern in the loss of 'innocense' in inanimate objects to attempt to produce a model for life. Which leaves me witha plethora of areas to draw inspiration from, but no technical skills for me to create art for arts sake. just watching it all go to dust.

thanks for the question Lindsayo09
 

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I doodle a lot, but I'm not incredibly gifted in that area. (my avatar is the only sketch I've ever liked enough to show it off) I love writing, and I do a lot of it, but I don't like showing it to other people much, because most of it is very personal to me. I also love music and enjoy singing and playing guitar. So, yeah, I'd say I'm fairly artistic.
 

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no no no doodle i mean real art art that comes from your soul your emotions you get what i am saying here?

Doodles can be real art I think, they can express your subconscious thoughts and emotions :) I find that doodling is very calming and helps to clear my mind..
 

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i have never doodled art before, since i was little i drew from coloring books then i watched Bob Ross one day and i started painting and then after that i taught my self about shading from the way the sun would touch you if you was standing there, then i took art classes and got yelled at because the way i taught myself was not right because the teacher didn't tell me, now in college i am better and the teacher doesn't make me draw like him he lets me draw but we can not doodle. how do you do that?
 

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Are you saying, how do I doodle? Hmm.. that's hard to describe.. I kind of think of drawing one thing, for example an eye, and then perhaps link that to something that looks like an eye, or has a similar symbolic meaning- like a chain of thought, one thing leading onto the other..Then you can stand back, and try and think of what the whole thing could link to.

I also create symbols that I draw that reflect a certain mood, atmosphere or time. This can help if I need a starting point to doodle from. I hope you can get that, I'm not very good at explaining things like this xD

That's a shame your teacher forced you to draw in the way they wanted you too.. I had a few art teachers that wouldn't let you shade over the line of something or they'd shout at you.

Did you draw the image for your avatar? If so, it's very good.
 

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i do that but all my work turns out to be real drawigns, they are never just little doodles that pop in my head, i can draw an eye then link that to something then i have this whole page of stuff all linked together its really cool
 

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I doodle almost constantly, especially during class when I'm waiting for the rest of the class to catch up on copying down notes or such. My Engineering copy had so many little drawings in it that I almost considered putting it in my portfolio for college. When I'm having trouble deciding what to draw, or I'm having trouble coming up with a character design, I look back through all the doodles I've done, and I usually find an old idea of mine that's worth using. Doodling is a lot more relaxing, too, I think, than actually trying to draw something and make it look right.

Insofar as art is a method of expression and creation, I don't know if it's possible for anyone not to be an art person-- everyone wants to express themselves, even if he doesn't create anything that would be considered 'art' by contemporary standards. Everyone still has that basic desire to reach out and share some aspect of his own existence with others. The attempt to define and compartmentalise art is, possibly, one of the most damaging things to it, and to us, because it discourages a lot of people from ever trying to create art for themselves, just because they "can't draw" or "aren't arty". It doesn't have to be perfect to be art, it just has to be yours.



(I am not NOT using those stupid gender-neutral pronouns.)
 

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no no no doodle i mean real art art that comes from your soul your emotions you get what i am saying here?

How do you make a distinction between "art" and doodles? A lot of art starts as doodles for me, and it's kind of hard to tell when it's crossed a line into being art. Besides, I only ever doodle things that reflect what I'm thinking at that moment...so I guess you could call that from the soul, right?
 

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yeah, but i mean i have never doodled i was never taught how to by my teachers, i was always taught that you draw something you never doodle so really its hard for me to see a small doodle as a drawing.

what kind of doodle? like a little face or cartoon? because i can not really grasp what you are considering as a doodle?
 

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I love art, although not very skilled at the typical drawing and painting. I enjoy photoshop to make images or premiere to make music videos. I also love modifying my car, which I consider art. :)
 

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I love art. I surround myself with it. I especially love photography (but not the digital kind). Being in the darkroom, alone, working on print after print, into the night, forgetting the time, is just wonderful. There's the technical aspect of course, but there's also a sense of mystery in seeing what you saw when you snapped the photo coming to life.

And of course, snapping the photos is wonderful... I try to capture things as they are (and rarely take photos of people). I make a distinct attempt to create a mood, and am very focused on the compositional aspect.

I like to paint and draw as well, I tend to paint with my feeling side.

I'd be an artist if I wasn't a mathematician. :)
 

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I love art, period. I have been visual artist and a decent one, I am a musician/composer, I am a writer and I'll write anything. My life is art and knowledge. I am an archetypal 5w4.
 

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yeah, but i mean i have never doodled i was never taught how to by my teachers, i was always taught that you draw something you never doodle so really its hard for me to see a small doodle as a drawing.

what kind of doodle? like a little face or cartoon? because i can not really grasp what you are considering as a doodle?

By doodle I mean something that I might draw in the margins of a homework assignment when I'm bored. My doodles can be anything from a logo for my band to huge drawings that threaten to take over the page. I would also consider picking up a notebook and just starting sketching something I find interesting as doodling.

You really never doodle? Wow.
 

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I have archived all my highschool notebooks, and started to cut out all the doodles and put them in a binder... (it will take me forever). It seemed to be a much more creative time than right now... and it brings back so many memories...

How can you NOT doodle?
 

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was big on creating art (technical drawing, collage, photography, oil) and art history and theory.

i couldn't breathe without art and many comment on my particular brand of taste...it's a bit broken, pretty and dark.

and yeah, i used to write often........mostly stream-of-consciousness and poetry.

i think it's definitely compatible with intp but i do share a lot of infp as well.
 

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I remember reading somewhere that INTPs actually make good photographers. The funny thing about this though is that they don't worry about the subject of the photograph as much as the mood that the picture/scene seems to give off.
 

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Explains why I picked up photography about the same time I learned I was INTP. It's a perfect combination of my interests. There are a lot of systems in tandem with photography to learn such as photoshop, it's part technical and part artistic, entails a lot of analysis and requires you to look at ordinary things in new ways, and it's a short enough process to keep me interested.

I'm a fledgling self taught photographer, so I'm not too good yet. I also tend to look for ambience and therefore usually take pictures of non living things such as objects and landscapes. With living subjects like animals and people, it's too easy for me to turn the photo into a document rather than a piece of art.
 

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I remember reading somewhere that INTPs actually make good photographers. The funny thing about this though is that they don't worry about the subject of the photograph as much as the mood that the picture/scene seems to give off.

Yeah, I don't really care exactly so much what the picture is of if I can make it from an interesting perspective. If I can get a picture that sends a message through the angle and lighting, it's worth it. I like to give a perspective that most people don't get very often. I like to think that I can show people a little bit of how I see things.

That said, I pretty much suck at photography. ;)
 

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I love real art. You could always try to do math art. The patterns are suprising sometimes and can be calming to draw.
 
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