Why am I an asshole with girls?

[Minuend]

Oh, I forgot to tell you about my hobby. When I take a break from stripping and man-hating, I like to relax by rejecting 10 men a day. If I'm having a good day, 11

Like I said above, you cannot properly empathize with an animal(let's say a dog) , because you don't share the same life experience than the dog. Also you cannot properly empathize with someone different in substance( a girl).

Yes, all men have the same life experiences and opinions. Fact. Am I going to present hard evidence and logical thought behind this particularly questionable statement?

Nope. Because what I believe = fact.

Also

Swag

Actually, even though OP admitted suffering in first post. The negative feedback has made him go into denial and any comment will only trigger his self-rationalization. If he should agree with everyone here, it would shatter the remaining belief he has in himself and would plunge him into a hard depression.

Not gonna happen.

 

[DrGregoryHouse]

I don't necessarily disagree with your sentiment in the most abstract sense (and I mean the MOST abstract), but all you're doing here is parroting "manosphere" blogs which the OP has clearly already read and prostrated himself before in search of the almighty poon which will validate his existence and in opposition to the hostile life-support apparatus the poon is attached to. And unfortunately for all of us you are not nearly as talented a writer as Roissy (perhaps his only admirable quality).

The "manosphere" is literally the devil because it takes a traditionalist view of gender roles and precisely zero of the moral imperatives which come with such a view. "Oh big bad feminism has ruined every single woman so that means I have to be a sociopath and become a player to avoid being played."

Who's the real pussy here?

I am not aware of any manosphere blogs, etc. I can't 'parrot' what are my own observations I've been made to marinate in my whole life.

If you say so I am sure you are right about there being lots of manosphere blogs, etc saying what I am saying. Its logical that my observations are not singular.

And what is wrong with the Pussy? Is it shameful to be called one? If I understand your implied nuance you are assuming there is something negative about it. Would the real misogynist please stand up? Nothing shameful about the pussy. Quite the opposite in fact (unless its the tired old flabby angry feminist kind). Nothing wrong with the penis either. When used properly both are quite elegant and of ingenious design as a matter of fact. Problems arise when pussys want to be dicks and dicks want to be pussys. (and the term/ idea is used as an implied insult)

 

[Minuend]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

 

[WALKYRIA]

The fixation on strategy and status, power obsession, lack of empathy and pride about all of it sounds more like the tendencies of an immature or younger INTJ figuring things out.

Not true since I do it all for the fun, thus not being serious about it....
I consider life as a selfish game.... video game.
I wonder what's INTP girls experience with men.

 

[just george]

Not true, empathy takes whatever definition one wants... Empathy actually has no clear definition

Yes, it does. Empathetikos is a Greek word. It means to feel as the other feels.

Also Just George, thank you for you insight, but why are you so emotional? What did I do wrong?

I'm not emotional.

I'm sure I'm more empathetic than you man; ENTP are natural jerks .

I am an ENTP.

Yo, you people seem to forget who the real bad people are... good-looking girls who play at will with the feelings of us boys. We've all been through that. They don't do that because they are intrinsically bad, they do it because of dopamine in brain. Pleasure dude. They get addicted to it(not power but attention and banging high value people) till they get accidentally pregnant or get STD's. The game feels good to play, so why not play it till the extreme. Empathy doesn't have anything to do with it , don't be delusional.

Also, Is it my fault if girls are so sensitive and expect boys to treat them better than how they treat us? Why not reverse the roles after all?

If a girl get approached 10 times a day, and reject men, the hard way, hurts them and certain of them get suicidal... Can we than say that the girl lacked empathy? No, it's just irrelevant..

I do justice people. I'm a hero. They'll learn the hard way that we aren't as weak as they think we are.

You're a child.

Women are human beings who happen to be female. They aren't on a mission to dominate anyone. If you think that they are, then you're seeing a reflection of yourself.

Interacting with the opposite sex is not combat. If you see it that way, you will have shitty relationships.

Yes, there are different patterns of behavior. Yes, women look for slightly different things, and speak a slightly different language emotionally.

When you stop being a dick long enough to realize that women are human beings just trying to find their way as best they can, your relationships will improve.

I'd elaborate, but this is all wasted on you.

I doubt you could bang her, she's an educated one dude and with high standards. ENTP's tend to fail badly at school... sorry.
Oh, and if you bang her. Keep it for yourself, I refuse to see certain realities.

Too bad for her that I'm in another country, and I'll never get the chance.

 

[WALKYRIA]

Oh, I forgot to tell you about my hobby. When I take a break from stripping and man-hating, I like to relax by rejecting 10 men a day. If I'm having a good day, 11

Lol, are you a gyal? What do you think about boys? I know it must be much easier for INTP girls..
Also you are Scandinavian , thus you cannot understand since Scandinavia is populated by girls/women only...

I do really believe that empathy depends on common life experience. That's why people don't give a shit about tramps or homeless people. They don't identify to the homeless.
Same for boys and girls. The life experience is not the same.

 

[Absurdity]

I am not aware of any manosphere blogs, etc. I can't 'parrot' what are my own observations I've been made to marinate in my whole life.

K I'm done here.

 

[Fukyo]

not nearly as talented a writer as Roissy (perhaps his only admirable quality).

Oh God, if you can call that heap of pretentious purple prose good writing...



I had hope this manosphere shit would not make its appearance on INTPf, but alas...

 

[Absurdity]

Oh God, if you can call that heap of pretentious purple prose good writing...



I had hope this manosphere shit would not make its appearance on INTPf, but alas...

Well I'm pretentious too so I'm able to admire his skill.

And I've seen it lurking in the shadows for a little while now.

 

[Latte]

Not true since I do it all for the fun, thus not being serious about it....
I consider life as a selfish game.... video game.
I wonder what's INTP girls experience with men.

This directly contradicts what you've said earlier in the thread... and some of your previous posts directly contradict themselves.

How are you able to maintain this degree of cognitive dissonance? It's astounding.

Your lack of self-awareness is probably unparalleled on this forum, which has seen quite a lot facepalm inducers come and go.


Regarding House's Grand Theory Of Two Types Of Women In Western Culture:

Are you living in some alternate reality where everyone female are magically stereotypes?

Do you have any close female friends?

I mean, if you had, you'd have to be quite stunted to not realize the complexity of variance between individuals who have two X chromosones based on observation. And if you were stunted in that manner, the most basic understanding of neurology and the impact of some of the things that are different for male and female in regards to brain development should indicate to you that your idea is unlikely to be true given your observation of variance when it comes to male minds. Or perhaps they are also merely a couple of different types?

Look at what axioms are required for your ideas to be plausible and see how congruent they are with what can be derived from scientific findings and you will realize how your views have no solid foundations and also necessitate ignoring data.

With time, your reality will update itself as situations arise where parts of it will be crushed as it comes into ever more conflicts with a more permanent one outside yourself.

 

[ummidk]

Lol, are you a gyal? What do you think about boys? I know it must be much easier for INTP girls..
Also you are Scandinavian , thus you cannot understand since Scandinavia is populated by girls/women only...

YOU seriously responded to minued's post? LOL

I do really believe that empathy depends on common life experience. That's why people don't give a shit about tramps or homeless people. They don't identify to the homeless.
Same for boys and girls. The life experience is not the same.

I'm not homeless, I give a shit about homeless people.

 

[WALKYRIA]

But if you say you want a real connection then you must allow yourself to WANT and DESIRE a PERSON. A PERSON has autonomy and the freedom to accept or reject you. When you have manipulative intentions, you don't see them as a person and you sabotage your efforts. You can't have both security/assurance they will want you, unless you allow yourself to want an autonomous/free PERSON.

Not an easy thing to do.
I'm always amazed by the way ENFP friends connect with girls... envious of that.
Maybe emotional connection requires to lower standards? Don't know if I could be able to do that without alcohol.
And I agree with all that have been said above and here... I don't seem to consider beautiful girls as full human beings. Girls often tell me that I don't respect them and that i play with them(While all I really want is to gauge their creativity !)... Don't know why. Actually I consider girls as piece of art, not objects. Piece of art would be more appropriate. I see their beauties but rarely go further to seek their personality. Too energy consuming.

 

[Absurdity]

Actually I consider girls as piece of art, not objects. Piece of art would be more appropriate.

Without getting too philosophical I think it is safe to say that pieces of art are objects...

I'm convinced you're just trolling at this point.

 

[ummidk]

^I was thinking the same thing....but hes been a member since january so idk

and yea...piece of art, object or subject, pick one

 

[paradoxparadigm7]

Not an easy thing to do.
I'm always amazed by the way ENFP friends connect with girls... envious of that.
Maybe emotional connection requires to lower standards? Don't know if I could be able to do that without alcohol.
And I agree with all that have been said above and here... I don't seem to consider beautiful girls as full human beings. Girls often tell me that I don't respect them and that i play with them(While all I really want is to gauge their creativity !)... Don't know why. Actually I consider girls as piece of art, not objects. Piece of art would be more appropriate. I see their beauties but rarely go further to seek their personality. Too energy consuming.

I think you've answered your original question...You're ambivalent but you don't REALLY want to change. When you really WANT something different, you'll know what to do.

 

[WALKYRIA]

What I find amazing with INTPs here is that they like criticizing but rarely give alternative solutions... U must admit it guys, you are nearly stuck up as me. You hide behind your logic and science but you didn't find a solution to my problem neither. And that's what I'm stating, Logic and Science cannot solve our emotional problems. U have the same problem as OP actually.

Thank you Cherry Cola who's an INFJ and who provided the only and acceptable response to my questions...

I suggest trying to get a platonic relationship of friendship going with some girl. Tell yourself from the get go that it's not going to involve sex, use it as learning experience and don't dismiss what you find illogical at first glance, allow time for consideration and subconscious processing before you make final judgements.

thanks dude, I'll try platonic relationships with girls than. I'll come to you guys later.


I'll wait for alternative solutions..

 

[WALKYRIA]

Actually, even though OP admitted suffering in first post. The negative feedback has made him go into denial and any comment will only trigger his self-rationalization. If he should agree with everyone here, it would shatter the remaining belief he has in himself and would plunge him into a hard depression.

THIS !
These mothafucker INTPs want to get me depressed. Dayum. They really lack empathy.

 

[r4ch3l]

Not true since I do it all for the fun, thus not being serious about it....
I consider life as a selfish game.... video game.
I wonder what's INTP girls experience with men.

Actually I've thought about it more and I relate to you more than I first thought. You sound like you have developed social skills. I didn't, and I used learning how to get dudes to do what I wanted as a testing ground to develop social skills and learn how to interact with people in general. Also saw it as a video game.

Maybe meeting girls at bars and the like reinforces your beliefs about women, life, and yourself? Like if you were to outline the characteristics of the type of women you would respect and would be attracted to it might require being vulnerable, which is a thing you probably do not want to feel (enjoy controlling situations).

 

[redbaron]

Yo, you people seem to forget who the real bad people are... good-looking girls who play at will with the feelings of us boys.

This is fucking stupid.

Did you forget that this entire thread is about the fact that you wilfully manipulate girls and their feelings?

*cue pathetic attempt at rationalisation.

What I find amazing with INTPs here is that they like criticizing but rarely give alternative solutions... U must admit it guys, you are nearly stuck up as me. You hide behind your logic and science but you didn't find a solution to my problem neither.

It's more to do with the fact that you're dismissing things that you don't agree with, than no one has offered a solution. Can't really do much when you're in denial.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

I win. ^_^

 

[Lot]

I'm convinced you're just trolling at this point.

/thread

 

[BigApplePi]

If we can agree girls are somehow different from boys, I wonder how they are the same ... in the sense both are partners in a relationship? If they are the same, and you have a modest amount of empathy, and you were the girl, how would you like to be treated? I assume (@WALKYRIA) you are not going to bother with this post. How do you think that makes me feel? ... given I'm not a potted plant, lol.

 

[Cherry Cola]

OP and Greg trolling?

Else, to the OP: You already know what to do, don't go thinking your'e gonna fix this by just thinking about it. Sometimes action is required.

You're using the thread for attention at this point, pointlessly nitpicking on unimportant things using arguments which makes no sense.

 

[WALKYRIA]

You're using the thread for attention at this point, pointlessly nitpicking on unimportant things using arguments which makes no sense.

Yeah, I know. But I'm bored and drunken.And besides that, that's what everybody does. Why feel the need to state something as evident as this...

Else, to the OP: You already know what to do, don't go thinking your'e gonna fix this by just thinking about it. Sometimes action is required.

This is not true.
The truth is that there is no correct answer when it comes to relationships.
I don't even know if emotional connection is possible with everybody. Can we really connect with everybody? Mayb I just havent found the right person to connect to, maybe It's because of the people I meet?

OK

 

[WALKYRIA]

If we can agree girls are somehow different from boys, I wonder how they are the same ... in the sense both are partners in a relationship? If they are the same, and you have a modest amount of empathy, and you were the girl, how would you like to be treated? I assume (@WALKYRIA) you are not going to bother with this post. How do you think that makes me feel? ... given I'm not a potted plant, lol.

How would I like to be treated? It depends from many factors.... Am i the hottest girl in the area? Than I would want to be treated as a princess. Am I ugly? Than I should expect everybody to treat me like shit. Do I have a pHD? Do I have money? Do I have social influence?
People shouldn't expect to be treated good if nothing in return; even if they are a partner in a couple. Meritocracy? Maybe I were to good for those bunch of girls. I need a powerful girl, a girl who has equally high standards as me. I need to invest a top notch quality girl who will be able to beat me and treat me wrong when necessary. Where to find that? ENTJ girl? oh shit...
SO maybe my imagination is the problem? I want someone highly intelligent and equally beautiful... but maybe it's not available yet in my current reality.

 

[Polaris]

Yeah, I know. bored But I'm bored and drunken.Yeah, I know. But I'm bored and drunken.Yeah, I know. bored But I'm bored and drunken.Yeah, I know. But I'm bored and drunken.Yeah, I know. But I'm bored and drunken.Yeah, I know. But I'm bored and drunken.Yeah, I know. But I'm bored and drunken. Yeah, I know. But I'm bored and drunken. Yeah, I know. But I'm bored and drunken.

 

[Latte]

 

[Cherry Cola]

there is no correct answer to relationships so therefore you can be an asshole to girls? come on this has got to be trolling by now

 

[cheese]

I'm so confused.

 

[Kuu]

This trolling is so good, I actually want to reach through my computer screen and bitch-slap you...

 

[TimeAsylums]

OP and Greg trolling?

manipulator too lel.

Multiple threads too. Outshining me.

This trolling is so good, I actually want to reach through my computer screen and bitch-slap you...

You never gave me compliments

 

[BigApplePi]

@WALKYRIA.

I need a powerful girl, a girl who has equally high standards as me. I need to invest a top notch quality girl who will be able to beat me and treat me wrong when necessary. Where to find that? ENTJ girl? oh shit...
SO maybe my imagination is the problem? I want someone highly intelligent and equally beautiful... but maybe it's not available yet in my current reality.

I think you've nailed something here. People get along well with their approximate equals. Just keep looking. Either you will find such a girl or you will grow to see more in women that raise them up for you.

One thing though. If you are "superior" you need to respect your so called "inferiors." You need to rise above the situation so you can remain what you are. If you treat your "inferiors" without respect it will come back to haunt you. <-- that's not fully explained but is the best I can do for now.

 

[WALKYRIA]

Haha, I can't believe semi like-minded people are excluding me... why so politically correct all the time? U guys seem to be like sensors. I sometimes forget that intuition is on a scale...
I mean, I'm like that, I have no barrier between reality and imagination, don't blame... I' not lying nor trolling just expressing myself on my difficulties. If you don't like the way I express it( I don't speak good English), it's just a detail so you might want to go to hell too...

I mean, I really have difficulties maintaining good relationships with girls in particular. Or maybe certain girls.... I seem to only love or tolerate IN girls/people. The rest can burn in hell.
The big problem I have with girls is that they seem to only care for bullshit, sensor/ boring bullshit... If only It was funny, elegant and refined bullshit. Majority of girls seems to be inclined to be manipulated easily, even by EST* bragging boys. It's so pathetic to see a girl being picked up because a friend have got a great car and money,... I mean are girls bitchas? Why are they behaving like bitches I hate that !

Either you will find such a girl or you will grow to see more in women that raise them up for you.

This is certainly true, I have great genes and ... many girls want to just reproduce themselves with me on a fast pace, because I am poor for now. I just hate that.
But I'm gonna graduate soon and be a rich bastard with great social status so all the inferiorish girls who needed my "great genes" are gonna be out of view... Lol, poor them. They just want to fuck me for my genes and not even becauz they like me. They let themselves being manipulated and then claim- once I throw them away- It's all my fault; that I'm a bastard...etc I think it's bullshit. Quality girls don't let themselves being manipulated as easily as that !

 

[BigApplePi]

It's interesting you go after girls who are not right for you and then complain about it. Why visit bars and houses of questionable repute when you can go to the library or pick a girl out of your class or lecture hall.

Go after a pretty one who does not seem interested in you. See where that gets you. You need a challenge that is not certain. You need to get interested and then get your heart broken. That could take you down a peg. Maybe. Maybe not. Try something different.

This is good advice. If you don't take it, I may follow it up with some bad advice.

 

[WALKYRIA]

Why visit bars and houses of questionable repute when you can go to the library or pick a girl out of your class or lecture hall.

Girls in my class love me, with no exceptions... But It would be too easy. And I'm to shy to approach girls in libraries. Who does that? You don't come in libraries to pick up girls, do you? You go there to study. If I was a girl, I wouldn't like someone to talk to me in a library.. BUt yet many INTP's here claim it's a good place for introverts to pick up girls. I don't agree with that !
IN bars, it it because it's so easy to pick up girls... huhu

 

[Cherry Cola]

Have you even tried picking up girls outside of bars?

You are sounding more and more like a troll :S

 

[just george]

Grand master awesome pickup artist is...shy?

And prefers to pick up in bars, which are...dimly lit...and girls, uh...drunk?

I dunno, dude. Confusing drunk chicks doesn't exactly take The Force. I don't see any Sith chasing you all over the place any time soon

 

[BigApplePi]

No class exceptions, eh? You will have to expand your base of classes. Hmm. So libraries. You've admitted you're shy. Museums? Too much trouble I suppose if you don't take to museums. What about girls in other classes? What about talking to other fellows? Find out from them if there is a girl YOU would like to meet.

I haven't met you and I haven't looked much at your posts. So I don't have a feel for what you are like. I can't believe there isn't a girl who could see right through you. When I was dating, I tended to go for quite bright girls. They might have gone to bed with you, but so what? Would you have rejected them? I'll bet as soon as they saw you messed around, they would dump you. The girls I dated wanted boyfriend material. It wouldn't matter how attractive you were. If you weren't boyfriend material, the rejection would be mutual.

 

[BigApplePi]

jg. lol.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Yeah well y know don't

 

[just george]

The funny thing about young PUAs is that they think they're the only ones who can do what they do, and develop this annoying little god complex, like some kid who got laid for the first time and thinks that they invented sex.

One day, they meet one of the older ones that you never saw coming, who already laid the girl they're so proud of laying, and it all comes crashing down - hopefully with a smartarsed line like "I've had more girls than you've had hot dinners, sonny boy".

All those hot girls you make out with on Saturday night...what do you think they're doing, exactly, and with whom, on Tuesday afternoon? All those times they take a little bit too long to reply to your calls or SMSes? All those times they "have to stay home cos of a family thing"?

Yah.

 

[DrGregoryHouse]

The funny thing about young PUAs is that they think they're the only ones who can do what they do, and develop this annoying little god complex, like some kid who got laid for the first time and thinks that they invented sex.

One day, they meet one of the older ones that you never saw coming, who already laid the girl they're so proud of laying, and it all comes crashing down - hopefully with a smartarsed line like "I've had more girls than you've had hot dinners, sonny boy".

All those hot girls you make out with on Saturday night...what do you think they're doing, exactly, and with whom, on Tuesday afternoon? All those times they take a little bit too long to reply to your calls or SMSes? All those times they "have to stay home cos of a family thing"?

Yah.

sloppy seconds, anybody? Thirds, fourths, fifths, seventy-thirds then?
Zombies just want the raw sex with nothing human in between. Gross & nasty are such whores and dickheads. Thank god for STDs. Hopefully a new, more potent, 100% lethal disease will evolve soon to take out all this nasty trash which is nothing more than bipedal soul and body pollution for the rest of us

 

[just george]

sloppy seconds, anybody? Thirds, fourths, fifths, seventy-thirds then?
Zombies just want the raw sex with nothing human in between. Gross & nasty are such whores and dickheads. Thank god for STDs. Hopefully a new, more potent, 100% lethal disease will evolve soon to take out all this nasty trash which is nothing more than bipedal soul and body pollution for the rest of us

It's sad, really. The better looking someone is (especially women), the more they get sucked into the web. The more sex they have, the lower the probability that they can be happy in a stable monogamous relationship, and so really, their self validation becomes poisonous to the spirit.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Walkyria has been offered plenty of advice and "solutions" by now. I think the issue is that he doesn't really want to change, because he is seemingly unwilling to do anything.

I suggest locking the thread.

 

[just george]

The OP didn't start the thread to solve a problem. He came to get a reaction, and stroke his ego vaingloriously.

 

[Minuend]

Nothing's wrong with having an active sex life as long as the ones involved know that it doesn't go further than that.

As for monogay... overrated