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Please post no more than 3. I'm curious how diffrent we are.

Mine are:
Truth
Beauty
Freedom (independence)



It's interesting, that in LII (socioniscs) description there are same core values.

"Tearaz myślę że robię pierwszy świadomy krok do prawdziwych wartości: wolności, piękna, prawdy i oczywiście miłości."

mean:
Now I think, that I am making first aware step to real values: freedom, beauty, truth and of course love!"


http://socjonika.pl/#socioscopelii
 
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Mine are oddly similar to yours.

Expression - Independence and beauty combined. The nature of being.
Truth - Holistic truth, which includes knowledge of that which doesn't actually exist.
Love - Even razed cities are burned with love. It's required for existence.
 

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In order of importance:

1) Unbeatable rationality. (No, it is not truth, for thruth can be irrational)
2) Maximalism (Others may percieve this term differently, what I meant is sort of quality of ones actions, when one strives for the best possible result within the boundaries of aforementioned rationality or alternatively takes no actions at all. A kind of ''All or nothing'' attitude restrained by rationality.
3) Struggle, for without struggle nothing of a true value can ever be attained.
 

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Can we take our reasons at face value in light of the complexity of the mind? It seems like much of the time, we hold ideals that don't apply to the actual causality of our psyche..

But as far as I know:

* Truth
* Undeserving
* Independence/Responsibility of the Self
 

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- Knowledge
- Truth
- Blekksprut
 

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Love: The expression of inner beauty and the palpable awareness of the beauty in others
Integrity: A solid flexible "self" that is in dynamic flow
Courage: Ability to face what is to be faced and transcend
 

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Can I have a "not following arbitrary instructions" as one of my values? I'm having trouble picking three.
 

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- Well, the Truth/Beauty angle has always been consciously present (I kind of equate the two).

- Courage: (And if you're not scared, then it's not courage.) Doing things that unnerve or frighten you, despite the cost involved.

- Adaptability: Being able to accommodate and deal with anything that comes up.

- Integrity: Self-consistency in the face of external pressures.

- Autonomy: Freedom to choose. "Possession" of another's will, to me, is a heinous evil.

- Empathy: Seeing others as people like you and being able to take them into account as fellow beings.

I have others, but I think I've gained more values as i've gotten older and life has gotten more complex. I also think some values may have been operational but I wasn't really aware of them.
 

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Values.

Processing: Recognizing input for what it is; being able to process it; disposing of output in an agreeable manner.

People: Recognizing those who love me and those who don't; paying attention to who people are.

Truth: bothering with that which matters; not bothering with the ugly.

Hedonism and aesthetics: Living it buried in values.

Religion: accepting it in others; recognizing mystery.
 

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-Motivation/purpose
-health (psychological and physical)
- Rationality
 

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Integrity
Loyalty
Prudence

I would add empathy, but it doesn't seem right. Something more like "you don't have to be positive, but that doesn't mean you need to be negative".

It's interesting, that in LII (socioniscs) description there are same core values.


http://socjonika.pl/#socioscopelii
There was a study of "type values" in the Socionics community, I'm not sure if this is from the same study but it's possibly still relevant to what you were interested in.


http://socionic.ru/index.php/2010-10-14-21-07-53/2069-jiznennye_cennosti_psihologicheskih_tipov

They originally used names for the type references and I replaced them with the functions for easy comprehension.
TeSi
Professional
Reliability

SiTe
Handyman
Usefulness

SeTi
Warrior
Victory

TiSe
Host (Master)
Order

TeNi
Enterprising (Businessman)
Good luck

NiTe
Knowing
Wisdom

NeTi
Researcher
Creation

TiNe
Analyst
Truth

FeSi
Player
The joy of life

SiFe
Sybarite
Harmony

SeFi
Politician
Power

FiSe
Keeper (Guardian/Preserver)
Debt

FeNi
Ideologist
Fate

NiFe
Dreamer
Dream

NeFi
Enthusiast
Originality

FiNe
Understanding
Conscience
 
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Enjoy life and study the universe.

After much pondering over the broad philosophy of life, I arrived at nihilism. Deducing that there is no purpose to life, I briefly fell into despair. But one post, I think it was cog's, illuminated the pretty obvious fact that there is also no reason for there not being a purpose. Pondering the general direction of my life, I decided that I wish to enjoy this brief improbalistic gift, and that I wish to understand the workings of the universe within wich it transpires. This attitude has not been indoctrinated fully into my mind, but time will tell.
 

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Chaos.
Don't fuck with me.
Loyalty.
 

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Truth - Maintenance of accuracy.
Respect - Acknowledging the worth of self and all else.
Independence - A lack of external compulsion.
 

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I think "core" values means something like what would you do when your placed in an extreme situation.

I think, like most humans, I'd aim for my survival. Pfft, who cares about truth and reason when my life's at stake. That's really the "core" here, or is that already instinct?
 

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Creation - Our most profound ability is the ability to aggregate others' ideas into new forms
Balance - Live in harmony with your environment
Wisdom - Learn from your mistakes and the mistakes of others


Absolute truth doesn't exist. Loyalty is a failure to think and act for oneself and/or the betterment of the whole. Independence is an illusion. Beauty is subjective.
 

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With regards to my core values in the sense that I operate on them and use them as a yardstick up against most things I encounter, though I don't agree with all of them and sometimes blame myself for them, I guess would be intelligence, curiosity, kindness, authenticity, empathy, honesty, courage and beauty.

With that said, I'm not entirely sure of my values (how many, what kinds), but I'm sure that there is no avoiding having them.
Is truth a value? I used to think this, but what is so valuable by truth in and of itself? Isn't it just a means?
Same with reason (or intelligence/intellect, if you will), what is so valuable with reason? I'm interested in hearing from those who have it as a core value. Reason, as with truth, seems just to be a means. Speaking of my self I value reason in so far as it can contingently provide for better understanding between individuals, a better code of conduct, increased empathy, more knowledge of nature to better our daily lives etc. but still.. I have it included in my list of core values because in the day to day, I measure myself and people up according to how intelligent they are almost all the time. And I do this not because I think that intelligence helps us reach all these philanthropic ends (increased empathy etc.), but simply, I think, because they are intelligent. When they are stupid, or blurts out something stupid not cushioned by any other positive trait, it causes me to become embarrassed and frustrated and sometimes even hateful of them because of a perceived lack of motivation towards understanding. I want to avoid this hate. This frustration. This embarrassment.
(Anyway, this value, and similar values, in so far as they are core values, applies not only to people outside of you, of course, but to yourself as well. And your disapproval of others showing a lack of what you value (beauty, courage, intelligence etc.) can just as quickly become a disapproval of yourself.)

- Well, the Truth/Beauty angle has always been consciously present (I kind of equate the two).
It is interesting that you seem to share plato's view on beauty in considering it, in a way, identical, or at the very least inextricably paired with truth. I have always been fascinated by that view and I would like to hold it myself. Unfortunately, I'm not sure how this relation hold. For plato, as you probably know, there is a form of beauty (the good) by which anything that we see as beautiful has that capacity only by sharing in, or partaking in that form. When I see you, I can see that you are beautiful (assuming of course, that you are), and to that extent that I do it is because you partake in the form of the beautiful. On the other hand, because you are not the beautiful itself, but only beautiful to the extent that you partake in the form of the beautiful itself, I would also notice in you certain imperfections that somehow fall short of it. Knowledge of beauty only as it would appear to me through my senses - ie. you - would be incomplete, because I wouldn't know beauty itself, only a veiled and/or limited particular manifestation of it. Knowledge of the beauty by which anything can be beautiful would, on the other hand, be complete (reachable only through reason), because I would know not instances of beauty, like instances of someone showing courage, but I would know what the beautiful itself is, or what courage itself is. This implies a relation between ontology and epistemology: beauty is ontologically prior to beautiful things and what is 'said of' beauty would constitute a higher degree of knowledge than what is simply 'said of' beautiful things. Beauty in this sense, since it is ontologically prior, corresponds to what is true, for there can be nothing said of anything else which is more true than what is said of the beautiful itself. Indeed it is wholly true.
This is one way of equating beauty with truth.

Now, the way I think of it, I might, whenever I experience something beautiful (a beautiful figure, a mathematical function that expresses a fundamental law of nature, a mountain range, or, what the heck, being on mdma experiencing the warm embrace of another) get an overwhelming sense of it's trueness, but I very much doubt that truth, as when Dostoevsky writes "As if you suddenly sense the whole of nature and suddenly say: yes, this is true.", means true in the way we ordinarily think of truth. It refers rather, I think, to an affirmation of the total, inward felt rightness we tend to have when something feels good as triggered by encountering perceived beauty. And I ask myself, assuming that it does indeed speak about truth: how can this be related to truth? Truth can't just be a felt positive experience (of an object), can it? Mustn't it be expressed, or at the very least, grasped? Because I think that if wo/man (or, more precisely, sentient beings capable of grasping truth) doesn't exist, neither does knowledge. So, there might arise the possibility of there to be beautiful things, but no truth.
Also, colloquially, we often talk about the capacity for a truth to be ugly, just like for a person having the capacity to be ugly. That is simply a mistake then? Or perhaps what they are saying isn't true? Or perhaps the object of their truth doesn't qualify as a proper object? :confused:
.. but still, I really am attracted to the idea that what is beautiful is bound up with truth in someway, so I would be very much delighted if you could try to elaborate on your view on this:)
Love: The expression of inner beauty and the palpable awareness of the beauty in others
Related to the above, if beauty is somehow linked to truth, then this definition of love must certainly be true!
 

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I try to live by them. ^^
 
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